That would be absurd unless you mean in the context of a pandemic
We should be pushing for procedure mask compliance in public spaces
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I'm wearing a camo buff today. All I have. I would also be interested if it is better than nothing?Kceovaisnt- said:
What about neck gaiters or Buffs? There should be a lot of those out there with all the hunters, bikers, and hikers.
Well, I'm talking about this Sept. If that's what it would take to go inside Kyle, who's with it? I think most would be good if that's what it took.who?mikejones said:
That would be absurd unless you mean in the context of a pandemic
you do not have to wear a surgical mask to protect yourself and others
do not let perfect be the enemy of good
do not let perfect be the enemy of good
Yelling at Kyle Field will be inhibited also!!Central Committee said:
One downside to the bandanna idea:
"Yeah, I was wearing my bandanna the other day when I walked into my bank the other day to make a withdrawal..."
When this whole pandemic broke, we all heard that masks don't work, are a waste of $, etc. What garbage.cone said:
this is the hill I will die on
there's no reason why we shouldn't be wearing cheap procedure masks in public
we must break this taboo
people can refer to South Korea, but what's up with Japan? Hygiene and masks.
Was this lie just spread so that hoarders outside the medical community would not buy them all up and make them even harder to find for those who need them the most -- medical providers exposed to the virus every day?
I really feel like widespread adoption and availability of surgical type masks is a huge missing piece in this for getting things under control and some semblance of normalcy back.
My wife gives me a hard time because when I'm ill I have a box of simple masks at home that I bought from Walgreens about 3 years ago of which I wear around the house. My goal is not to infect her and my 3 daughters. I even sleep with it on. I'll say this, the cross infection rate of my illnesses at home is pretty low. Coincidence? Maybe. But when anyone else in the house gets something it spreads lol.
we need someone in a position of authority to level with us and tell us what the new normal looks like
and some form of mask has to be in the mix
we have to have confidence to be within six feet of each other at times
and some form of mask has to be in the mix
we have to have confidence to be within six feet of each other at times
This is some pretty strong data. We need to ramp up bandana production.jczar03 said:
I agree 100%. Can't hurt. I wore a bandana to Home Depot the other day. I'm still fine.
Builder93 said:This is some pretty strong data. We need to ramp up bandana production.jczar03 said:
I agree 100%. Can't hurt. I wore a bandana to Home Depot the other day. I'm still fine.
Seriously, if we all wore masks, we could probably all go back to work on Monday. Mask, social distance as much as possible and good hand hygiene.
Aust Ag said:Well, I'm talking about this Sept. If that's what it would take to go inside Kyle, who's with it? I think most would be good if that's what it took.who?mikejones said:
That would be absurd unless you mean in the context of a pandemic
If we are still at a stage where masks are necessary in September, we probably shouldnt have the game
Tom Hanks gets C19 (a virus prevented with bandanas) after his son starts a bandana company...coincidence???Builder93 said:This is some pretty strong data. We need to ramp up bandana production.jczar03 said:
I agree 100%. Can't hurt. I wore a bandana to Home Depot the other day. I'm still fine.
https://hankskerchiefs.com/
This. I can't quite tell if the OP is talking about the normal moving forward for good, or just during times like these. But I'm not going to wear a mask for the rest of my life any time I go out in public.who?mikejones said:
I'll wear a mask during a pandemic.
Actually, I'll only wear a mask when near other people. Im requiring my guys to wear sometjing over their nose and mouth on my jobsites.
But, i will not wear a mask during anything but a actual pandemic such as this.
Same thing with hand shaking. I'll refrain from it durong a pandemic, but will continue once this has passed.
Banks in Alaska have a sign out front that says must remove masks before entering.Central Committee said:
One downside to the bandanna idea:
"Yeah, I was wearing my bandanna the other day when I walked into my bank to make a withdrawal..."
This would be quite a pivot, since we were told that no one should wear masks unless infected and that it would increase face touching.
I get the argument about asymptomatic carriers but the message would need retooling.
I get the argument about asymptomatic carriers but the message would need retooling.
To clarify- these surgical masks offer no protection from acquiring the virus. They do, however, reduce the chance of spreading it.
Marcus Aurelius said:
To clarify- these surgical masks offer no protection from acquiring the virus. They do, however, reduce the chance of spreading it.
This is an important point and highlights that so long as testing is lagging along woth how long one can be asymptomatic and contagious, wearing something to help prevent spread is a good idea.
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I thought I saw a study posted on here that surgical masks were nearly as effective as N95
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To clarify- these surgical masks offer no protection from acquiring the virus. They do, however, reduce the chance of spreading it.
What is the mechanism creating the difference?
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That study focused on flu. Not covid-19. Smaller particle size. CDC guidelines do not recommend surgical mask for non intubated confirmed or PUI covid-19.
So if this is fact, and the virus is spread by asymptomatic folks, wouldn't general population wearing some sort of face cover decrease transmission?Marcus Aurelius said:
To clarify- these surgical masks offer no protection from acquiring the virus. They do, however, reduce the chance of spreading it.
(I hope my wording is not disrespectful, I realize the job you're doing right now, respect you immensely, and appreciate your participation here Marcus)
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McInnis 03 said:So if this is fact, and the virus is spread by asymptomatic folks, wouldn't general population wearing some sort of face cover decrease transmission?Marcus Aurelius said:
To clarify- these surgical masks offer no protection from acquiring the virus. They do, however, reduce the chance of spreading it.
(I hope my wording is not disrespectful, I realize the job you're doing right now, respect you immensely, and appreciate your participation here Marcus)
That's my thought also. Docs shouldn't be wearing just surgical masks but the general population could benefit likely from these to cut down the spread from asymptomatic carriers.
how about the next 6-9 months
at least through the 2nd wave
at least through the 2nd wave
yeah, they kinda ****ed up
BTW I agree with this notion. Think Asian countries on to something. Reducing asymptomatic spread. Especially in crowded areas.
and you can be spreading it and not knowing it
either early on in the illness or even throughout
either early on in the illness or even throughout
aggie-beta said:
I think we just need someone to make masks cool.
If I had any talent I would design some cool looking masks and convince some celebrities to be photographed in them for a cut of the company and turn it into a 9 figure business.
If Twitter and Instagram could ever be a force for good... This is it.
Japan now seeing rapidly increasing number of cases in Tokyo.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan-headquarters/japan-to-set-up-coronavirus-hq-possible-step-to-emergency-declaration-media-idUSKBN21D0A1
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan-headquarters/japan-to-set-up-coronavirus-hq-possible-step-to-emergency-declaration-media-idUSKBN21D0A1
Most people do not use the mask correctly. Maybe if there was a big public push for education on how to properly doff PPE it would be helpful.
Most untrained people also pick and touch at the mask way too much so it paradoxically increases their hand to face exposure.
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covid-19-when-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/
I'm not against them at all but I just think they will not make a big difference aside from mass transit or closed in spaces--- buses, elevators, subways.
Most untrained people also pick and touch at the mask way too much so it paradoxically increases their hand to face exposure.
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covid-19-when-should-you-wear-a-face-mask/
I'm not against them at all but I just think they will not make a big difference aside from mass transit or closed in spaces--- buses, elevators, subways.
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TexAg91 said:When this whole pandemic broke, we all heard that masks don't work, are a waste of $, etc. What garbage.cone said:
this is the hill I will die on
there's no reason why we shouldn't be wearing cheap procedure masks in public
we must break this taboo
people can refer to South Korea, but what's up with Japan? Hygiene and masks.
Was this lie just spread so that hoarders outside the medical community would not buy them all up and make them even harder to find for those who need them the most -- medical providers exposed to the virus every day?
Government tells all sorts of lies for various reasons related to public health:
1) ulterior motive, such as conserving resources for a targeted group.
2) Bad data gets entrenched, such as the false bogeymen of salt, fat, and cholesterol.
3) Covering up negative outcomes in the interest of overall improvements for public health - things like certain vaccinations, GMO food, reducing pollutants or certain chemicals.
4) Covering up evil, like the Tuskegee experiments or nuclear testing in Utah.
Seems like this mask was just another lie that has served it's purpose, and it's time to tell the truth to the lemmings.
and yet we're seeking a new normalQuote:
I'm not against them at all but I just think they will not make a big difference aside from mass transit or closed in spaces--- buses, elevators, subways.
a way to get back to work
a way to be around people, work around people - without fear and paranoia
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