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We don't have to use your precious masks to get some benefit so quit giving bad advice because precious medical masks are low in stock.
Player To Be Named Later said:Infection_Ag11 said:
Now if we could adopt the mindset of the Chinese/Japanese/Koreans (the needs of the many...) and 80-90% of us are wearing masks correctly all day long? Sure, sign me up. That will never happen here though.
Our society's "screw you, I'll do what I want because.... Murrica" is really going to screw us in these situations.
aggie-beta said:Infection_Ag11 said:Player To Be Named Later said:
So how on earth can they tell us they are useless for people to wear? Especially given the potentially lengthy asymptomatic but contagious phase.
Because only a small minority will ever wear them, an even smaller minority will wear them correctly, and a yet smaller minority will do the other necessary aspects (leaving it on all the time, not touching their face, washing hands, etc.) to provide the true benefit.
Essentially, unless we are all onboard and doing it to the best of our abilities, it's just a waste of masks that could best be used elsewhere.
Now if we could adopt the mindset of the Chinese/Japanese/Koreans (the needs of the many...) and 80-90% of us are wearing masks correctly all day long? Sure, sign me up. That will never happen here though.
How about since many of us are not even working we just wear them to go to the grocery store. It's not hard to avoid touching your face with a mask on. I wear one nearly all day at work and never touch my face with it on.
I think it's annoying to see doctors posting the same bull crap as the government. If people are trained properly they could learn in a 10 minute video the proper way to wear a mask to a grocery store and the proper way to take it off. We don't have to use your precious masks to get some benefit so quit giving bad advice because precious medical masks are low in stock.
cone said:
so you think american citizens responding en masse to a crisis is unrealistic?
cone said:
so you'd 1) let perfect be the enemy of good and 2) not encourage a DIY approach, thereby allowing the mass produced masks to go to the frontline and having a lesser but not insignificant effect be promoted amongst the herd
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we'll be eating beans out of a can this winter unless we get past this defeatism
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Either build the bridge right or don't waste the time and resources, because the half assed bridge will hurt more people than no bridge at all.
cone said:
went there two days ago
barnyard1996 said:
I was excited to see the number of new posts on HCQ. Then i started reading them
Good job derailing a great thread, texags.
Marcus Aurelius said:
Had my first death today. Sat at home with symptoms for 7 days. Then the 7-9 day viral pneumonia hypoxia. Come to hospital. He got HCQ at day 7. Too late. We aren't using this drug appropriately. Needs to be given in first 48 hrs. Somehow.
Hopefully in a few weeks the rapid tests will be in abundance. Patient gets tested > gets results immediately > positive cases are given a regiment of HCQ (assuming it proves to be effective by then)Marcus Aurelius said:
Had my first death today. Sat at home with symptoms for 7 days. Then the 7-9 day viral pneumonia hypoxia. Come to hospital. He got HCQ at day 7. Too late. We aren't using this drug appropriately. Needs to be given in first 48 hrs. Somehow. It's doing nothing to pts who are hypoxic. Anecdotal.
Sorry to hear this. It is frustrating and I fear that this will not be the last person that this occurs with.Marcus Aurelius said:
Had my first death today. Sat at home with symptoms for 7 days. Then the 7-9 day viral pneumonia hypoxia. Come to hospital. He got HCQ at day 7. Too late. We aren't using this drug appropriately. Needs to be given in first 48 hrs. Somehow. It's doing nothing to pts who are hypoxic. Anecdotal.
Marcus Aurelius said:
Had my first death today. Sat at home with symptoms for 7 days. Then the 7-9 day viral pneumonia hypoxia. Come to hospital. He got HCQ at day 7. Too late. We aren't using this drug appropriately. Needs to be given in first 48 hrs. Somehow. It's doing nothing to pts who are hypoxic. Anecdotal.
If someone like you or one of your coworkers got Covid, would yall wait until they needed to be in the hospital to start the meds or is this something the doctor has no control over because there is that little supply?Marcus Aurelius said:
Had my first death today. Sat at home with symptoms for 7 days. Then the 7-9 day viral pneumonia hypoxia. Come to hospital. He got HCQ at day 7. Too late. We aren't using this drug appropriately. Needs to be given in first 48 hrs. Somehow. It's doing nothing to pts who are hypoxic. Anecdotal.
Thanks for the information.Marcus Aurelius said:
No dyspnea until day 6 or so.
