Foreign Substance - Georgia Pitcher's Glove

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The hero we deserve???
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/40058938/georgia-pitcher-suspected-cheating-vs-sec-foe-texas-am

Picking up steam!! Love that they're blasting Georgia for this garbage.
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The fact that the SEC / Georgia didn't comment pretty much shows that a.) the coaches know what was going on and b.) that it was wrong.

Shame! I wish we could have swept them.
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I guess you are still in middle school.
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Yeah so true. Like I said in my original comment, I doubt anything happens. But damnit, I feel vindicated lol.

This clown was getting rocked in all of his other appearances and suddenly becomes Mariano Rivera? No shot.
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Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
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I expect the future opposing fanbases to not let him off the hook next time he comes in to pitch.
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I liked your idea where we chart his ERA for the rest of the season.
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Serious Lee said:

its only been like 14 years, but im just glad weve moved on from dave yeast


We can be mad at two things.
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TexAg1987 said:

I expect the future opposing fanbases to not let him off the hook next time he comes in to pitch.
Sounds like 203 needs to plan a road trip.
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agmeister said:

I guess you are still in middle school.

sir, this is a Wendy's….
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So, do we get the W now?
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Jace brought the BOOMSTICK

Wrong thread but I'm leaving it
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trouble said:

Jace brought the BOOMSTICK

Wrong thread but I'm leaving it
I did that earlier too on the GOOD tshirt thread while watching the game.
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BadMoonRisin said:

I liked your idea where we chart his ERA for the rest of the season.


I'm interested in his spin rates. The data is out there and I might know someone who can get it.
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trouble said:

Jace brought the BOOMSTICK

Wrong thread but I'm leaving it


Is boomSTICK another foreign substance? When will the rampant cheating end????
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It's a rare and precious wood that makes baseballs disappear
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dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.
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Jomboy...


Edit: sorry, I must have skipped over the vids previously. My bad.
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RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.
I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.
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Thesis: The effects of kragle on a baseball and how it relates to spin rate.
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RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
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RED AG 98 said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.
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Scooley01 said:

RED AG 98 said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.
Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.
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akm91 said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.
I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.
40 rounds, 615 picks -- 6'6" guys who can bring mid 90's don't grow on trees. Doesn't take much to take a chance and draft a guy in case he works out. If not, he can wither away and die in low A ball for little investment.
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RED AG 98 said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
It won't. MLB, or should I be more specific, the organizations, are anything but choir boys. They truly don't discourage this, and pitchers will always search for an edge. All the advantages have been given to the hitters, so pitchers and clubs look for any advantage they can for their pitchers.
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HtownAg92 said:

akm91 said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.
I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.
40 rounds, 615 picks -- 6'6" guys who can bring mid 90's don't grow on trees. Doesn't take much to take a chance and draft a guy in case he works out. If not, he can wither away and die in low A ball for little investment.
20 rounds now, but still applies.
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RED AG 98 said:

Scooley01 said:

RED AG 98 said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.
Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.
That's probably why we're seeing SO much Tommy John surgery now. Guys liked the spin rates they were getting and are trying to replicate that but without sticky stuff.
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Aggies2009 said:

RED AG 98 said:

Scooley01 said:

RED AG 98 said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

RGLAG85 said:

dermdoc said:

Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.


Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.
More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.
Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.
That's probably why we're seeing SO much Tommy John surgery now. Guys liked the spin rates they were getting and are trying to replicate that but without sticky stuff.
Spin, which leads to more sticky stuff, and the pitch clock. Some combination of those and I have no idea which is the largest component.
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Poor kid (aka full grown man making full grown man decisions) is going completely viral now...
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I mean, they say it's blatant. But without the bullpen video, does this even get noticed?
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/texas-am-baseball-coach-raises-cheating-allegations-against-georgia-pitcher-certainly-appears-that-way

Made it to Fox too.
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Is that headline accurate?
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TexasRebel said:

Is that headline accurate?

So journalism has come to this. The AP writer texted Schloss, he said "appears that way", and the headline is "A&M coach accuses pitcher" on the AP wire. And now outlets are doing zero research to copy paste the headline.
 
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