The hero we deserve???
Serious Lee said:
its only been like 14 years, but im just glad weve moved on from dave yeast
Sounds like 203 needs to plan a road trip.TexAg1987 said:
I expect the future opposing fanbases to not let him off the hook next time he comes in to pitch.
sir, this is a Wendy's….agmeister said:
I guess you are still in middle school.
I did that earlier too on the GOOD tshirt thread while watching the game.trouble said:
Jace brought the BOOMSTICK
Wrong thread but I'm leaving it
BadMoonRisin said:
I liked your idea where we chart his ERA for the rest of the season.
trouble said:
Jace brought the BOOMSTICK
Wrong thread but I'm leaving it
He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.RED AG 98 said:I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.Scooley01 said:More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.RED AG 98 said:I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
40 rounds, 615 picks -- 6'6" guys who can bring mid 90's don't grow on trees. Doesn't take much to take a chance and draft a guy in case he works out. If not, he can wither away and die in low A ball for little investment.akm91 said:I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
It won't. MLB, or should I be more specific, the organizations, are anything but choir boys. They truly don't discourage this, and pitchers will always search for an edge. All the advantages have been given to the hitters, so pitchers and clubs look for any advantage they can for their pitchers.RED AG 98 said:I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
20 rounds now, but still applies.HtownAg92 said:40 rounds, 615 picks -- 6'6" guys who can bring mid 90's don't grow on trees. Doesn't take much to take a chance and draft a guy in case he works out. If not, he can wither away and die in low A ball for little investment.akm91 said:I doubt he'll be drafted as he's already a grad student.RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
That's probably why we're seeing SO much Tommy John surgery now. Guys liked the spin rates they were getting and are trying to replicate that but without sticky stuff.RED AG 98 said:Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.Scooley01 said:More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.RED AG 98 said:I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
Spin, which leads to more sticky stuff, and the pitch clock. Some combination of those and I have no idea which is the largest component.Aggies2009 said:That's probably why we're seeing SO much Tommy John surgery now. Guys liked the spin rates they were getting and are trying to replicate that but without sticky stuff.RED AG 98 said:Not sure if you follow MLB or not, but do you remember the sticky stuff ordeal in the MLB 2 years ago? It was conservatively estimated over 75% of pro pitchers were doing something prior to the initial crackdown... I guarantee they didn't all just wake up and start using on their own. The issue is systemic down to the lowest levels, given the new-found love for all things spin.Scooley01 said:More than using the substance itself, couldn't the fact that he did this while apparently oblivious to the fact that he was able to be seen indicate poor decision making/situational awareness/professionalism? I'm sure some orgs out there wouldn't mind drafting a cheater, but surely they don't want a dummy who hides it so poorly.RED AG 98 said:I would just word it a different way -- this incident isn't going to have much if any impact on his draft-ability. He either will or won't be drafted or be signed as an UFDA, and that will be based on his ability. I don't see this moving the needle in a major way in either direction.ColoradoMooseHerd said:RGLAG85 said:He'll get drafted or signed as a free agent. They don't truly care about this.dermdoc said:
Well what will happen is this guy has basically ruined any chance he had at MLB.
Not 100% true. They do care if they don't think you can do it with the substance. If anyone was considering him., they will now watch him much closer to see if he can do it without the illegal substance. MLB is looking for guys with ungodly talent. It guys that can use substances to get the results.
TexasRebel said:
Is that headline accurate?