What happened to the ball after the last out in the 8th.

Alex580 said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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No TrackMan data, but the average velocity on his fastball when facing every other opponent this year was 91-92.

Against the Ags on Saturday night, the average on his fastball was 95.

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Sticky stuff wouldn't help increase velocity, would it?

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Typically no, mostly helps with increasing spin rate and some say it helps with control too. That pitcher typically starts for them so he probably just isnt holding back as much coming out of the pen.

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If it helps with control, a pitcher can throw harder with more confidence. Easily worth a few extra mph's, even if it's only a function of the placebo effect

safety guy said:

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What happened to the ball after the last out in the 8th.

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Great question.

dermdoc said:

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safety guy said:

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What happened to the ball after the last out in the 8th.

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Great question.

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The final out was a strikeout. I'm sure the UGA catcher took it to the dugout.

That's a damn good video there from Jomboy not only showing it and exposing it, but also explaining how, when and why he was doing it.

I look for this guy's ERA to double quickly. Baseball gods are capricious.

Ag 11 said:

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There's even a Jomboy breakdown now

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Ooohhhh man.

Jomboy has a big following. Interested to see how long the SEC tries to ignore this.

Luke The Drifter said:

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dermdoc said:

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safety guy said:

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What happened to the ball after the last out in the 8th.

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Great question.

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The final out was a strikeout. I'm sure the UGA catcher took it to the dugout.

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Yes, stayed in the catchers mit as he fist pumped then took it to the dugout…

This whole thing is amazing to me. Dude is obviously cheating.

1. What is going to be done about it?

2. Will Georgia deny it?

3. Will any journalists dare question Georgia about this?

4. Is there any technology that can judge the spin rates of Saturday's game with other games this guy has played?

I don't expect the answers to all these questions, but wow, how embarrassing and fraudulent that Georgia "win" was.

I think it might affect them as the season progresses.
Hopefully they are watched like eagles the rest of the way.

Surely SEC cannot not say anything as much exposure this has gotten.

snowdog90 said:

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This whole thing is amazing to me. Dude is obviously cheating.

1. What is going to be done about it?

2. Will Georgia deny it?

3. Will any journalists dare question Georgia about this?

4. Is there any technology that can judge the spin rates of Saturday's game with other games this guy has played?

I don't expect the answers to all these questions, but wow, how embarrassing and fraudulent that Georgia "win" was.

I think it might affect them as the season progresses.
Hopefully they are watched like eagles the rest of the way.

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To answer #4, he's been doing this for several games this season on video. This game wouldn't be an anomaly.

snowdog90 said:

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This whole thing is amazing to me. Dude is obviously cheating.

1. What is going to be done about it?

2. Will Georgia deny it?

3. Will any journalists dare question Georgia about this?

4. Is there any technology that can judge the spin rates of Saturday's game with other games this guy has played?

I don't expect the answers to all these questions, but wow, how embarrassing and fraudulent that Georgia "win" was.

I think it might affect them as the season progresses.
Hopefully they are watched like eagles the rest of the way.

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1. Nothing, other than possibly having the umpires take a look at pitchers more regularly going forward (and this guy won't be singled out).

2. Nothing.

3. Probably not.

4. I believe so, but we'd have to get input from other schools because UGA certainly wouldn't give theirs up.

I'm sure other coaches will keep an eagle eye on UGA going forward. If their results suddenly fall off, everyone will assume that it was because they stopped cheating.

Alex580 said:

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its pretty damning evidence but what are they supposed to do, umps never checked him.

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I believe they have enough video evidence. They at least need to acknowledge it, give a warning, something.
Otherwise, every other pitcher in the league needs to start doing the same thing.
It is either illegal or it is not.

What college baseball needs to do is just have umps meet the pitchers at the mound when they come into the game like they do in MLB, no reason they cant do the same glove check for each pitcher.

Again, do not expect any coach to speak up about this. I assure you no SEC coach…heck, no coach anywhere…wants his pitching staff put under the microscope.

Every away venue in the SEC where this guy has pitched will have TrackMan data on him including spin rate. I don't think Georgia would have to cooperate at all.

I don't expect any public acknowledgment but I bet the wheels have been absolutely spinning behind the scenes on this one all day. We may notice a few changes of behavior from blue but that's about all I would expect. And I would be happy to be wrong.

StinkyPinky said:

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Surely SEC cannot not say anything as much exposure this has gotten.

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I can't read past the user name

Aggies2009 said:

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Ag 11 said:

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There's even a Jomboy breakdown now

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Ooohhhh man.

Jomboy has a big following. Interested to see how long the SEC tries to ignore this.

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Went down the comments rabbit hole. It's easy to spot the Georgia fans lol

Scrolling through wheels' highlights. The UGA catcher does immediately throw last strikeout ball of the 8th back onto the field. Pitcher still got caught but they weren't say brazen as to accidentally remove the ball from play, as some suggested...

Here, start at 13:56 -

RED AG 98 said:

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Scrolling through wheels' highlights. The UGA catcher does immediately throw last strikeout ball of the 8th back onto the field. Pitcher still got caught but they weren't say brazen as to accidentally remove the ball from play, as some suggested...

Here, start at 13:56 -

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It doesn't turn the ball into fly paper, it would not be very detectable on the ball. It just makes the ball feel a little tackier for the pitcher using it.

And as Sandman says, no coach will want to make a big issue of this for the fear of his own staff. If anything happens, it will be quietly behind the scenes. It's more widespread than just a few rogue pitchers, this guy just got busted for his stupidity in the bullpen. Why they hid it behind the pole is one of the biggest stupid parts.

Aggie X account has jokes.

No funny business here.
Just another series win.#GigEm x @WellsFargo pic.twitter.com/ImwiMdndu7

— Texas A&M Baseball (@AggieBaseball) April 30, 2024

I'll be watching his spin rate from here on out now that he's under a microscope.

RED AG 98 said:

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Aggie X account has jokes.

No funny business here.
Just another series win.#GigEm x @WellsFargo pic.twitter.com/ImwiMdndu7

— Texas A&M Baseball (@AggieBaseball) April 30, 2024

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Such an awesome video!!!

Is it true no one had struck out the side against us this season until he cheated and then it happened back to back innings?