Foreign Substance - Georgia Pitcher's Glove

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Interesting thread with a video showing a UGA pitcher putting something on his glove while hiding in a corner…
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Just saw that, too!!
FTAG 2000
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Get em Schloss!
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Is that from the first or second game? Sure seems suspicious.
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It's the closer from the last game
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Certainly seems suspicious.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.
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Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


Why not?
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Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


I always appreciate your insights into the game.
VegasAg86
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Everyone does it.
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TheCurl84 said:

Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


Why not?


They won't say it out loud because they don't like building excuses for their players. But they hate these baseballs. They're hard and slick with low seems. Lots of good hitters out there. But they're not this good.
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They all should be able to use it. It's why the MLB is looking into creating a ball that has a tackier surface. All the Advantages have been given to the hitters, that's why I always thought it was disingenuous when they cracked down on spider tack.
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looks like he's jerking off into his glove....
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Haha. Maybe he was. I mean we don't know what the foreign substance really was.
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TyHolden said:

looks like he's jerking off into his glove....



Someone put that video side by side with the Tech bell ringer.
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Praying?
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Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


O'Sullivan did. Last week.
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you moran said:

Haha. Maybe he was. I mean we don't know what the foreign substance really was.
Yeah, I don't want to argue with knowledgeable baseball people,
but scientific advances are being made all the time.
This guy struck out six good to great batters in a row.
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Zoomed in video
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Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.
Didnt Schloss ask the ump to do a check on Hendrix in the 2016 super regional?
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Yes he did. Made him stand there for about five minutes while the umpire checked everything.
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McInnis: You sir are CORRECT! Was wondering when this little tidbit from the past would come up. HATED Schloss for doing that (LOVE him now)! So, that said, I dunno what the fallout from this will be. Schloss did not like it then, messed with our guys minds, lost the game.
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
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We are kicking so much ass. Other Teams only chance is to cheat like cray cray.
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There won't be any fallout. The only thing that may happen is if a Georgia pitcher is mowing guys down there's a better chance they're going to get checked. Especially late in a game.
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TheCurl84 said:

Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


Why not?
Because our staff likely uses something too. Almost every pitcher in the last 100 years has used something for grip. And before that the balls were basically just bean bags that you couldn't hit hard anyway. Sunscreen and rosin is the most popular substance. More recently spider tack has become the thing.

The real debate in bullpens isn't whether using "something" is ok, most agree it is. But there's a point where they think one thing is ok and the next thing is too much. It's also a matter of how and where you use it. Discretion goes a long way. Big slab on your arm or neck? Hell no. Little pocket in between the fingers of your glove? No worries.

Spider tack didn't exist in my days but guys that I trust tell me it's unfair the grip it gives you. Quote from an athletic article that makes my point better than I can.

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Pitchers use tacky substances to enhance grip, in theory helping ensure the safety of hitters. But as one source put it, "if you're getting a 3,000 rpm cutter, you've left grip in the (rear-view) mirror a long time ago." And it's not just a handful of pitchers seeking such advantages. The use of illegal substances has become so rampant, a coach with experience in several major-league organizations told The Athletic in November, "Almost everyone is using something." A player-development executive said the benefits for pitchers are "better than steroids."


And it goes beyond grip substances to catchers using the buckles on their shin guards to cut balls for pitchers, etc. I played with a catcher in a summer league, played against this same kid in another league... Always amazed at the movement their pitchers had when they didn't seem to have top flight arms. Eventually had the conversation with him when he asked about my grip, where a little scuff might help, etc. There's a 1000 ways to make a ball move.
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A lot of people say everyone is doing it, but I can honestly say I can count on one hand the guys I played with that used something illegal, and it was always just a little pine tar in the glove.

We never even really had many use rosin. I always just wiped my hand in the dirt.
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Need to get the container he left behind and find out what was in it.
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Sandman98 said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Get em Schloss!


Uh. There isn't a coach in America that wants to bring attention to this.


Says the guy who played in the steroid era
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0 chance that was left behind
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Schloss is not afraid to have an opposing pitcher's glove checked...

but he knows to wait until the SR round to do that
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Yeah I don't think we need to freak out about this or anything. But we could easily force a check if we see them again in a close game...
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W said:

Schloss is not afraid to have an opposing pitcher's glove checked...

but he knows to wait until the SR round to do that


THIS
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W said:

Schloss is not afraid to have an opposing pitcher's glove checked...

but he knows to wait until the SR round to do that


I see what you did there.
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Sean98
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Different circles maybe. I saw it start to happen when I was around 13. Used it a little myself in some swampy late summer games by around 14 or 15. Didn't feel like it was a crazy huge advantage back then (just rosin or pine tar not today's outer space materials) but definitely the difference between losing a breaking ball out of the back of my hand vs. keeping it around the plate. We weren't as focused on spin rates because we didn't have all the analytics to back it up so I don't think it was as prevalent, particularly with fastball guys. Heavy breaking ball guys seemed to use it more then.

This would have been around 1990, so not exactly a new thing.
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Agree that is will likely be something not talked about.

But I think the fans at their next away series will be watching that bullpen closely. SEC opposing fans will be all over that.
 
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