Why Phil took time off…

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In reply to ColoradoMooseHerd • 12:18p, 6/19/26
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Phil is scumbag, sometimes it is hard to admit that the guy we like or root for is a piece of **** but in this case you just have to admit it. Phil is a scumbag.


Agree. He always has been. Same with Woods and a few others very famous golfers.

It's often best not to put too many on pedestals for anything other than their on-course achievements.
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1:20p, 6/19/26
I became a Phil fan because while Tiger was amazing and I was in awe of his talent, the fact 3 of his first 4 major wins were by 12, 15, and 8 strokes, I was eager for him to get some competition. Same reason I was a Duval fan too. Didn't dislike Tiger, but did want to see some elite guys step up to challenge him. Many elite athletes are aholes so I'm decent at ignoring it. That said, once Phil angled to fracture the game in order to pay off some gambling debt, I was out. When you start ****ing with the quality of the product, you're out
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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 10:33a, 6/22/26
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That said, once Phil angled to fracture the game in order to pay off some gambling debt, I was out. When you start ****ing with the quality of the product, you're out

I think that was the tipping point for many fans
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In reply to ColoradoMooseHerd • 11:31a, 6/25/26
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He used to be my favorite golfer.
Many years ago, I had a sports illustrated cover of his framed in my home office. Now, I think that he is a very, very self absorbed, narcissistic, deranged loser.
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In reply to Buford T. Justice • 7:03p, 6/25/26
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Pretty sure he always was.

Read an article years ago about most hated athletes, not by fans but by their peers. This was at the height of the Barry Bonds drama so naturally I expected he'd be high. To my surprise, Phil was #1. Guys on tour have never liked him apparently.
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3:26p, 6/26/26
https://www.skratch.golf/news/pro-golf/phil-mickelson-misconduct-women-madison-club-bridges-farms-exits
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3:34p, 6/26/26
Wtf, man
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3:45p, 6/26/26
Some crazy **** in that article and I believe all of it.
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In reply to Peter Piper • 4:14p, 6/26/26
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Peter Piper said:
https://www.skratch.golf/news/pro-golf/phil-mickelson-misconduct-women-madison-club-bridges-farms-exits


I suspect this is 100% true. But Shipnuck and Mickelson have really gone at each other a lot over the last 5 years.

Still, I tend to believe this story is 100% true.

What a huge fall from grace for Mickelson.
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4:25p, 6/26/26
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I'd always heard that Phil and Amy were swingers or non-monogamous or in some version of "the lifestyle."

Not like the people I heard that from knew them personally or anything but since I heard it from a few different places I just assumed it was true (and I didn't care whether it was or not; none of my business and you do you).

A lot of the stuff in the story aligns with a couple who has different definitions of the boundaries in that type of an arrangement.
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In reply to bagger05 • 4:42p, 6/26/26
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bagger05 said:
I'd always heard that Phil and Amy were swingers or non-monogamous or in some version of "the lifestyle."

Not like the people I heard that from knew them personally or anything but since I heard it from a few different places I just assumed it was true (and I didn't care whether it was or not; none of my business and you do you).

A lot of the stuff in the story aligns with a couple who has different definitions of the boundaries in that type of an arrangement.


Heard the same about 20 years ago from a couple guys who bounced around on the mini-tours.
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4:53p, 6/26/26
I don't know that it's 2way swinging as much as it is a guy that zero'd in on one girl early in adult life and then decided to embrace some bachelor time (and with the type of career to provide opportunity and cover). People may have seen how bold he was with some of it and just assumed she was ok. But these stories make it clear she was shutting down his ****pads when discovered and trying to track him like a typical cheated-on spouse would. A swinging couple guy isn't sending golfers off with his phone so he can go **** someone without her knowing; that's just a dude cheating on his wife
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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 5:04p, 6/26/26
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Enrico Pallazzo said:
I don't know that it's 2way swinging as much as it is a guy that zero'd in on one girl early in adult life and then decided to embrace some bachelor time (and with the type of career to provide opportunity and cover). People may have seen how bold he was with some of it and just assumed she was ok. But these stories make it clear she was shutting down his ****pads when discovered and trying to track him like a typical cheated-on spouse would. A swinging couple guy isn't sending golfers off with his phone so he can go **** someone without her knowing; that's just a dude cheating on his wife


No doubt. But people in the orbit of pro golf were talking about it 20 years ago. Whether there's any truth to it, who knows.
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5:29p, 6/26/26
I just don't put much stock in it. "We have an open relationship" rumors are more likely just cover for "I still like to **** other women but this way it sounds like I have permission vs just being the dirtbag that I am".
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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 5:35p, 6/26/26
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Enrico Pallazzo said:
I don't know that it's 2way swinging as much as it is a guy that zero'd in on one girl early in adult life and then decided to embrace some bachelor time (and with the type of career to provide opportunity and cover). People may have seen how bold he was with some of it and just assumed she was ok. But these stories make it clear she was shutting down his ****pads when discovered and trying to track him like a typical cheated-on spouse would. A swinging couple guy isn't sending golfers off with his phone so he can go **** someone without her knowing; that's just a dude cheating on his wife

Based on the story it certainly seems like she wasn't okay with what he was doing, even if they had some kind of "alternative arrangement."
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5:38p, 6/26/26
Which when one of them is famous and the reason for your extreme wealth and a lifestyle most can barely imagine, that can facilitate a "I'm going to **** around and you are going to have to deal with it" that some may interpret as open but in reality isn't.
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In reply to Enrico Pallazzo • 6:08p, 6/26/26
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Snippets I hear from people in this world suggest that this is a very, very common issue even for people who aren't rich and famous. One person backs the other into a corner and kinda forces it on them.

Of course this can show up in a ton of other non-sexual ways in any relationship.

Open relationship, non-monogamous, regular cheating on your spouse… being faithful in a relationship with one person seems complicated enough for me, man.
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8:58p, 6/26/26
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Phil da phreak
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10:17p, 6/26/26
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I feel sorry for his kids. Can't imagine reading stories like that about my dad. What a tool.
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In reply to 98Ag99Grad • 9:07p, 6/27/26
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I get that, but being super rich has to make that matter a lot less to them.
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In reply to ColoradoMooseHerd • 8:09a, 6/28/26
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Phil is scumbag, sometimes it is hard to admit that the guy we like or root for is a piece of **** but in this case you just have to admit it. Phil is a scumbag.

So who is wins the title between the big rivals as Biggest Scumbag, Phil or Tiger?

I still take Tiger. The clincher for me was hearing how he treated the Navy Seals that he trained with and didn't pick up the meal checks.
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In reply to Buford T. Justice • 11:11a, 6/28/26
Buford T. Justice said:
He used to be my favorite golfer.
Many years ago, I had a sports illustrated cover of his framed in my home office. Now, I think that he is a very, very self absorbed, narcissistic, deranged loser.


You framed a random SI cover of Phil? Yikes.
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 12:21p, 6/28/26
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Kansas Kid said:
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Phil is scumbag, sometimes it is hard to admit that the guy we like or root for is a piece of **** but in this case you just have to admit it. Phil is a scumbag.

So who is wins the title between the big rivals as Biggest Scumbag, Phil or Tiger?




Not even close. Woods.
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 12:54p, 6/28/26
Kansas Kid said:
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Phil is scumbag, sometimes it is hard to admit that the guy we like or root for is a piece of **** but in this case you just have to admit it. Phil is a scumbag.

So who is wins the title between the big rivals as Biggest Scumbag, Phil or Tiger?

I still take Tiger. The clincher for me was hearing how he treated the Navy Seals that he trained with and didn't pick up the meal checks.

Six of one and half dozen of the other.
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1:35p, 6/29/26
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Do y'all NOT have a pic of yourselves like that on your phones? Asking for a friend?
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In reply to Peter Piper • 1:45p, 6/29/26
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i'm willing to give a scumbag a little leeway for what they have done outside of their inner scumbag-ness. TW Foundation, First Tee, and who knows what else was due to Tiger. I don't see Phil out there doing anything but social media and pushing coffee. Maybe he does TONS of stuff under the radar, but usually that surfaces at some point.

Remember Phil as an amateur and early in his career walked around with his collar up. Who does that.
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2:14p, 6/29/26
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After reading that article, its obvious no one has ever told Phil "no" in his life. He operates as someone who has never had any repercussions for his actions, until he turned heel.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 2:27p, 6/29/26
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aginlakeway said:
Kansas Kid said:
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Phil is scumbag, sometimes it is hard to admit that the guy we like or root for is a piece of **** but in this case you just have to admit it. Phil is a scumbag.

So who is wins the title between the big rivals as Biggest Scumbag, Phil or Tiger?




Not even close. Woods.


I would say it's still pretty arguable. Although Tiger's DWIs are probably the worst single acts.

But on their infidelity, Tiger's was consensual. Phil, on the other hand, may be a serial sexual harasser. Throw in the potential insider trading and trying to ruin professional golf and there's definitely a case for Phil. And as others said, Tiger's "good" side of the ledger is much better.
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3:01p, 6/29/26
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My ex-wife grew up with the daughter of a very widely known professional golfer in the 90's and 2000's. When I met the daughter as an adult, I obviously asked a lot of questions about life on the tour, other golfers, events, etc. Just the normal stuff that anyone who is an outsider to that world but who enjoys golf and follows it would. She was very tight-lipped about it for the most part, but in no uncertain words said despite what the media showed that Phil was a giant piece of **** and everyone in that world knew it. This was almost 20 years ago, too, by the way.
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In reply to CapCity12thMan • 3:12p, 6/29/26
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i'm willing to give a scumbag a little leeway for what they have done outside of their inner scumbag-ness. TW Foundation, First Tee, and who knows what else was due to Tiger. I don't see Phil out there doing anything but social media and pushing coffee. Maybe he does TONS of stuff under the radar, but usually that surfaces at some point.

Remember Phil as an amateur and early in his career walked around with his collar up. Who does that.


Funny you mention this. About a month ago I played golf with a member of Bent Tree who goes way back with Will Zalatoris. They have a friend who had cancer as a kid and got to participate in Make a Wish and requested Phil. Phil rejected. So he picked Taylor Swift instead lol, who honored. Cancer returned a few years later and he got to participate; he bypassed Phil and picked Taylor Swift again.
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3:21p, 6/29/26
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FIHJAM

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11:45p, 6/29/26
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8:35a, 6/30/26
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The GPS cartboy story is wild. Heard that one over the weekend for the first time.
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7:09a, 7/1/26
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I hope someone outs Schlossnagle like this. That would be some sweet justice right there.



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