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BaylorSpineGuy said:

I was reading an interesting thread on WSB tonight. Was discussing about the crash on Monday and saying it was basically halted by someone selling a $100B in puts at one instant. The VIX was up around 38 and so triggered selling was basically arrested by that put sell.

Just one guy's theory but interesting. Have to wonder if it was The Fed. One entity, this guy argues, single handedly saved the market.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/sctdk8/market_manipulation_by_some_entity_around_vol/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
This is wild.
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Wow i haven't poked around on wsb in a while, thanks for the trip down the rabbit hole. The cramer thread had me rolling
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That site always makes me LOL.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/scr4nx/the_ol_ball_and_shaft_on_msft_how_did_i_not_see/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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If the author is correct about the single entity action and it appears data may support it, my guess is the Plunge Protection Team as pointed out by one of the responses below the story. Hundreds of billions,...I could believe it. Done in Options to increase leverage,...I could believe that too. Side Note: Some years back, sorry don't remember the year and who was President, but the Fed, The Treasury and Black Rock had investment assignments to keep the market propped and out of freefall. In one of the events that I happened to be watching and it was explained later that $125 to $150 billon was invested (shares) to stabilize the market. The metric I remember out of the entire deal was $125 to $150 billion infused instantly provided less than 20 minutes of stability and the market continued south thereafter. ....... So, hundreds of billions in this Options event, yeah I could believe it.
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WSB is the best, sure, the Fed came in and sold a $10 billion in puts to save the market. We were down over 12% on the spiders, approaching a major level of 4200, and way down for the day. That guy thinks its insane to sell puts there, I think its a great place to sell puts. Great risk-reward. Big money sells calls when pushing highs and puts when pushing lows, doesn't mean a low or high, but great position to try.

To also expand on that, when the Vix was that high, Institutions won't be buying calls, they sell puts first, and use that premium to buy calls when things stabilize. They don't take the Vega hit with the vix.
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frankm01 said:

59 South said:

I too have a pretty common name... not as common as say Bob Smith, but there a lots of people with my name. I got the big X at US customs with interview every single time I re-entered the country for about a decade cause some dude with my name was on the domestic terrorist list. Somehow that stopped in the last couple of years thankfully. Yea I know... cool story bro


And for your trouble, they named a road after you.

Another case of mistaken identity! That's not me mate, this is:



Bob Knights Paper Hands
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It's amazing how separated that white and yellow (I'm guessing 10 and 20-month) have gotten.
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I didn't know futures could be so green anymore
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Killing my puts, that's a fact. Gonna have to close those. Gotta preserve capital.
Bob Knights Paper Hands
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What in the absolute **** is going on? Maybe someone got the Fed leaked but it was wrong and the folks that got the right one are eating this up? Was that MMs selling yesterday and the Fed buying? Is this a MASSIVE bull trap?
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Morning gang, here's something else to consider. Look for large companies flush with cash to accelerate and increase their share buybacks with their stocks being relatively cheap. This will help them to crush earnings in the latter portion of the year.
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Someone mentioned us having a rocket around mid-week. Here we are
Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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T earnings report this morn was either going to make me howl like a wounded Comanche or scream like an eagle. If you stick your head outside that's me flying around making noise.

Amigos, verde mañana
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With markets still in no man's land here and several positions in the green, I'm setting stops across the board to keep it that way. Can exit for small gain and re-enter as needed.

Batten down the hatches!
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The new $T lost 50 lbs and got a new wardrobe. Nice results
Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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T volume over last couple days was 50% over average and it wasn't institutions buying, it was whales.
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Most interesting for your $T/$DISCA pairing in WarnerMedia beating segment expectations by 6%. In the "return to work" paradigm, showing some real strength of content. Good stuff!

Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX
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Thanks for posting that tweet. Made my day! Another Blue Star for you!
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My Q calls gonna rip today.
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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

T volume over last couple days was 50% over average and it wasn't institutions buying, it was whales.

Thanks again for the tips, Farmer.
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I sold all of mine at yesterdays peak. I hate being disciplined. it's stupid and ugly.
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Nice way to start what we perceive is the most important Fed meeting that Powell has presided over in his career... Our view differs from the consensus today as to what the Fed will do by only one aspect... He will not raise rates today, and may briefly talk about balance sheet reduction, but, while many agreed with us early on about an accelerating tapering to mid February, that no longer seems consensus... Powell will be Hawkish for him, but we think Dovish versus market expectations... The Fed will likely use some combination of Fed hikes and balance sheet reductions to achieve their LEAN against inflation, but will not be as aggressive as markets have laid out.. Their will be no "meeting moves at every meeting"... There will not be a 50 basis hike in March...but they will continue to first reduce accommodation and then actually tighten... The last thing Powell wants to do is send the equity market into bear territory. He has seen the massive volatility since the beginning of the year, and that is not good for business... He does not want to send the equity markets ,and possibly chance the economy,into a bear spin... No "Fire and Ice" in his view.. The Fed put will still be there for equities, but not for bonds..

So you have our view, now lets break down markets... We said on Monday that to expect a reversal of the equity sell offs that has plagued the markets... We called a "selling climax" Monday... Both Monday and Tuesday saw massive reversals from down to up by the end of the day... A reversal of what we saw last week from big up to down... If you wanted to see a massive move look at the chart of S+P or Nasdaq futures in the first hour of trading of the overnight session last night, up 62 S+P points in the first 48 minutes... Part of that was a reversal of Microsoft which went down big before reversing...S+P futures are up about 60 now with the Nasdaq up 260, both higher, but off their highs...

Rates... 10 years hit 1.79 overnight... We have been in a 1.70-1.80 range, we are at 1.79 right now... We expect that to break... It could go either way, but our bet is that the short base is back to neutral, so a break to higher yields is more likely... 10 years did hit 1.90 last week, that is only a trade away on Fed day...5 years, whose auction went well, have backed up 5 basis from the auction... And could test their last week high of 1.69, but we do not think that is likely unless we have misjudged the Fed Hawkish tea leaves... We expect the front end of the curve to adjust to a dovish higher rate regime... With pressure on the long end...hence our view is that 5/30 are in a range of 50-71.. So more likely to steepen...

Both Citi and Goldman were out this morning recommending to buy the equity market..we sent the BB version of the story out earlier...we are on Peter Oppenheimer's list so we read his executive summary... His view is that the market sell off has moved too fast... With month end only a few days away, the asset reallocation's for the month of January will highly favor equities over bonds...The Citi Quant team put out " the inflow signal into US equities is the strongest signal since US equities since March 2020 (the recent low) at 1.8 historical standard deviations"... They go on to say the January's month end re-balancing of the $ leads to big buy of US $ versus G10... Part of this is why we expect a risk on trade AFTER THE FED MEETING...more than likely starting in about 24 hours through the end of the month....

US junk bonds are headed for the biggest monthly loss since the onset of the pandemic in March 2020...but with the equity rally this am, CDX HY is 9 better and about 20 off their lows of earlier in the week... Munis have had their worst January start since before our Muni team was born,,,1980... While we do not like getting in front of a fast moving train, we recognize what we expected to see... An equity market that moved into corrective territory, but did not reach bear territory... Hopefully we will be correct

Market expectations for the Fed today have moved more dovish since the equity turmoil... Powell is so far behind the inflation curve , a hole he dug into himself...but we do not think he is aggressively going to go after the 7% CPI, but in reality, he , and other Fed governors, think inflation is transitory and they will only lean against inflation, not fight it... Announcement at 2 PM... Presser at 2.30...

Latest out of JPM...just hit our inbox "JPMORGAN: "S&P 500 drawdown of -11% is masking the severity of this sell-off .. not only in correction, it is already in bear market territory without a recession in sight." Sell-off is "overdone, at least in the short-term, and see a bullish setup .. going into today's FOMC .."

The "Plunge Protection Team" is real...we saw the Japanese Central bank come in and buy 600 Billion of equity ETF's... But there are other PPT's out there.
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Bob Knights Liver said:

I sold all of mine at yesterdays peak. I hate being disciplined. it's stupid and ugly.


These are net free runners for me. I plan to sell all but one at the open.
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$30,000 Millionaire
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Absolutely wild move. Very odd. Let's see what happens.
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BrokeAssAggie
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What does that mean? A glitch in the matrix?
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Bob Knights Liver said:

I sold all of mine at yesterdays peak. I hate being disciplined. it's stupid and ugly.
LOL, you're staying green though. All I had coming into today was a tiny put/ call spread strangle.

I haven't looked at levels, but seems like we could buy puts here and close our eyes. Short squeeze in progress, nuts.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

aggiedaniel06 said:

Just as a tidbit, Book maps are great for intraday scalping and getting a gauge for intraday support / resistance. All it tells you is where the wall of liquidity lies.
You do get a few head fakes from algos pulling liquidity last second but in general it is a solid tool.
Aggie Daniel,

You've forsaken us. I'm thinking about taking up DOM reading - is there any particular platform you like?
Hey, you use TOS right?

If you do, click on the "Support" button at the top right and start a conversation saying "I'd like to try the free trial of bookmap" and they'll enable it immediately, you'll have it after a quick TOS restart.

I still can't get the damn thing to work.

You'll have access to AAPL, MSFT, and /ES
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Remember that if we get dovish Fed, that will initially lift all stocks but it will allow for more inflation which will continue to weigh on many growth stocks. Long-term the value stocks are still the safer bet after the initial blast this week - if that comes.
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McInnis 03
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FOMC plus a visit from Phil D. Gapp, I've seen this show before.
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I obviously missed the overnight move. I don't like this. Maybe it rips higher and doesn't come back. Maybe they punish the new longs this morning. I don't know. When you don't know what to do - do nothing.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

for the newer traders. AUD/JPY is not a great correlator any longer. EUR/USD is better right now.
can you expand on this a bit?

Has EUR/USD taken over as the carry trade indicator?
FTAG 2000
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Anyone having problems with ATP?

Bob Knights Paper Hands
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I'm also thinking the upside is a run to the 200 MAs. SPY is almost there. Still lots of room in QQQ though. AMZN and WMT are two mega caps that I'd play to the upside.

There may be more value to the downside though. SPX, AAPL, JNJ and especially PG are big caps I'd play to the downside.
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