Exsurge Domine said:Bob Knights Liver said:Mtn_Guide said:
Hookers have to stay 6ft away
I think just their head has to stay 6 feet away from your head, right? I can work with that.
How would that work? you'd have to be in to feetplay with extremely tall women
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I can hit a bullseye from further than thatMtn_Guide said:
Hookers have to stay 6ft away
Is there a dashboard or stmt showing entire Fed outflow of relief by category etc? Anyone know exact figs?
I heard Scaramucci say there has been a total of $12T injected by Fed. I was thinking it was more like $6T with both stimulus and backstopping.
I heard Scaramucci say there has been a total of $12T injected by Fed. I was thinking it was more like $6T with both stimulus and backstopping.
Article discussing low trade volumes during recent rallies and skepticism for a bull market.
http://www.investing.com/analysis/what-a-brave-sp-500-bulls-move-200521946
http://www.investing.com/analysis/what-a-brave-sp-500-bulls-move-200521946
Scaramucci is anti-Trump after their falling out. He doesn't know anything of value and likes to be in the press. The DNC would be running with the 12T figure if it was remotely true.thirdcoast said:
Is there a dashboard or stmt showing entire Fed outflow of relief by category etc? Anyone know exact figs?
I heard Scaramucci say there has been a total of $12T injected by Fed. I was thinking it was more like $6T with both stimulus and backstopping.
Too much emotion (confirmation bias) and federal fingers on the scales in the market right now. At this point I'm all in cash & bonds except for my fun money account. The Grim Reaper (actuary?) always gets paid.
Good point. Sounds like his fund got hit pretty hard, he was urging investors not to sell considering the impact was expected to be "$3.7T in lost output countered with $12T from Fed". That seems rather embellished. He also is applying for PPP loan, as are other hedge funds, which is a disgrace.
8.55 min mark
8.55 min mark
He gets on tv for interviews if he is critical of Trump so this is self-serving for him. He probably doesn't even realize they're using him as a pawn to criticize Trump because they were once friends and was press something for like 5 minutes. Last figures I've read is that the fed's infusion is sitting around 4.7 T. It's still way insane and I don't like it but you either play it or you lose. I sold some puts at a loss today to reposition, and regroup myself to find opportunities to profit from the insanity.
As Dems return to work, there will be a new counter to Fed intervention in market. The new left strategy to counter Trump/Mnuchin will be:
1) Testing above all else to justify re-open (this buys them time and allows for BS racial narratives etc.)
2) Block any new stimulus screaming it benefits "Big biz" "corporations" "wealthy shareholders" over workers, small biz and main St. (Bubble up, vs trickle down)
3) Push hard for majority of funds to funnel into healthcare, to further their nationalization efforts.
Last time Pelosi and Schumer were at negotiation table the sky was falling. This time around, we are re-opening, antibody testing, and they fear a V correction. So perhaps when this plays out, the market will see a massive fire hose on wall st. turn to a low pressure sprinkler.
1) Testing above all else to justify re-open (this buys them time and allows for BS racial narratives etc.)
2) Block any new stimulus screaming it benefits "Big biz" "corporations" "wealthy shareholders" over workers, small biz and main St. (Bubble up, vs trickle down)
3) Push hard for majority of funds to funnel into healthcare, to further their nationalization efforts.
Last time Pelosi and Schumer were at negotiation table the sky was falling. This time around, we are re-opening, antibody testing, and they fear a V correction. So perhaps when this plays out, the market will see a massive fire hose on wall st. turn to a low pressure sprinkler.
Username checks out.Bob Knights Liver said:Mtn_Guide said:
Hookers have to stay 6ft away
I think just their head has to stay 6 feet away from your head, right? I can work with that.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others
thirdcoast said:
As Dems return to work, there will be a new counter to Fed intervention in market. The new left strategy to counter Trump/Mnuchin will be:
1) Testing above all else to justify re-open (this buys them time and allows for BS racial narratives etc.)
2) Block any new stimulus screaming it benefits "Big biz" "corporations" "wealthy shareholders" over workers, small biz and main St. (Bubble up, vs trickle down)
3) Push hard for majority of funds to funnel into healthcare, to further their nationalization efforts.
Last time Pelosi and Schumer were at negotiation table the sky was falling. This time around, we are re-opening, antibody testing, and they fear a V correction. So perhaps when this plays out, the market will see a massive fire hose on wall st. turn to a low pressure sprinkler.
A world where the Dems are fighting against socialism and MMT.
Yep, TDS is a powerful drug. On the other side of isle we may also see some fiscal/conservative/capitalist principles come thru from GOP. Something easier to do when S&P is closer to 3K than 2K, and actual light at end of CV19 tunnel. Not trying to get political, but we are certainly at very different circumstances today, as this market roles back up to the congressional gas pump a second time. This time, Rand Paul and others may get more face time, as will Chamath, Cuban and other billionaires who think taxpayers are getting hosed. Mid March wasn't a time for any rational debate, but early May likely will be.
Removed for Ragoo.
Thanks for calling it out. I can't anymore because then I'm a socialist hahaha
Thanks for calling it out. I can't anymore because then I'm a socialist hahaha
Forum 16 is that way
Ragoo said:
Forum 16 is that way
Blue starred ya
Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
Ragoo said:
Forum 16 is that way
On one hand we all hate political opinions and debate here. On the other hand, there has never been another time in history where the stock market is more connected to politics. Fortunately political warfare is much more predictable than novel viruses. Just watch Boeing over the next 2 months.....it may become as stock thats only safe to discuss on forum 16.
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You should start a separate thread for this. I think it would be a very interesting discussion, especially if some of the financial planners who lurk here chimed in.
I trade options on fidelity and curious if anyone knows if I can trade the following, and if so how?
Background: I bought 10 $6call options of a stock when it was around $6. I also sold 10 6$ put options. Net premium was flat. Stock is now trading around $ 7.50, and options are may 15 expiring
1. I would like to sells some calls and buy back puts on a $$ basis, and not on a per share basis. I would put in an order to sell 1 call and buy back 10 puts at a net zero premium. Can and how do I do that?
2. I would like to sell a 1 $6 call and use that premium to buy 1 $7 call and buy 1 $8 call at net flat premium. Can and how do I do that?
Background: I bought 10 $6call options of a stock when it was around $6. I also sold 10 6$ put options. Net premium was flat. Stock is now trading around $ 7.50, and options are may 15 expiring
1. I would like to sells some calls and buy back puts on a $$ basis, and not on a per share basis. I would put in an order to sell 1 call and buy back 10 puts at a net zero premium. Can and how do I do that?
2. I would like to sell a 1 $6 call and use that premium to buy 1 $7 call and buy 1 $8 call at net flat premium. Can and how do I do that?
kyle field 94 said:
I trade options on fidelity and curious if anyone knows if I can trade the following, and if so how?
Background: I bought 10 $6call options of a stock when it was around $6. I also sold 10 6$ put options. Net premium was flat. Stock is now trading around $ 7.50, and options are may 15 expiring
1. I would like to sells some calls and buy back puts on a $$ basis, and not on a per share basis. I would put in an order to sell 1 call and buy back 10 puts at a net zero premium. Can and how do I do that?
2. I would like to sell a 1 $6 call and use that premium to buy 1 $7 call and buy 1 $8 call at net flat premium. Can and how do I do that?
Explain what you intended with the initial trade. If the stock goes up then both of your options (calls in the money go up and premium on naked Put goes down, which is what you want. If the stock had gone lower you would lose on the call and the Put premium would go up and, if stayed below the strike price, you would be assigned the shares, unless you buy the Put back.
That trade isn't a net flat premium. It's exposure on both, but the stock moved in your favor.
disagree. Just because we are living in it doesn't make the current situation any more unique than any other time of crisis in the past.thirdcoast said:Ragoo said:
Forum 16 is that way
On one hand we all hate political opinions and debate here. On the other hand, there has never been another time in history where the stock market is more connected to politics. Fortunately political warfare is much more predictable than novel viruses. Just watch Boeing over the next 2 months.....it may become as stock thats only safe to discuss on forum 16.
Let me expand:
Discussing political or government activity as it relates to the economy is fine. Labeling something as socialism or other is just political ideology and has no place on this thread.
Just wanted to say thanks for continuing to share the spy strangdle strategy, I bought a 280/275 on wednesday, ended up selling the 280 friday for slightly above break even but if I had held until 10 minutes before close would have been up almost 50%
kyle field 94 said:
I trade options on fidelity and curious if anyone knows if I can trade the following, and if so how?
Background: I bought 10 $6call options of a stock when it was around $6. I also sold 10 6$ put options. Net premium was flat. Stock is now trading around $ 7.50, and options are may 15 expiring
1. I would like to sells some calls and buy back puts on a $$ basis, and not on a per share basis. I would put in an order to sell 1 call and buy back 10 puts at a net zero premium. Can and how do I do that?
2. I would like to sell a 1 $6 call and use that premium to buy 1 $7 call and buy 1 $8 call at net flat premium. Can and how do I do that?
Buying a call and selling a put is a synthetic long position. For options at the same expiration and same strike, you got positive delta on the calls and positive delta on the outs (delta of a put is negative, and since you sold them, that makes it positive).
And the difference in delta between a call and a put is 1.00. Hence, a synthetic long position, i.e. a $1 move kn the underlying equates to a $1 move per share in your position.
It is however, a leveraged position since the premium you paid for the call, less the premium received for the put plus the cash required to sell the put is less than the price of the underlying.
I think its key to understand what your positions actually mean and how they will behave, then you can decide what actions fit with your beliefs and risk tolerance.
great postjamaggie06 said:kyle field 94 said:
I trade options on fidelity and curious if anyone knows if I can trade the following, and if so how?
Background: I bought 10 $6call options of a stock when it was around $6. I also sold 10 6$ put options. Net premium was flat. Stock is now trading around $ 7.50, and options are may 15 expiring
1. I would like to sells some calls and buy back puts on a $$ basis, and not on a per share basis. I would put in an order to sell 1 call and buy back 10 puts at a net zero premium. Can and how do I do that?
2. I would like to sell a 1 $6 call and use that premium to buy 1 $7 call and buy 1 $8 call at net flat premium. Can and how do I do that?
Buying a call and selling a put is a synthetic long position. For options at the same expiration and same strike, you got positive delta on the calls and positive delta on the outs (delta of a put is negative, and since you sold them, that makes it positive).
And the difference in delta between a call and a put is 1.00. Hence, a synthetic long position, i.e. a $1 move kn the underlying equates to a $1 move per share in your position.
It is however, a leveraged position since the premium you paid for the call, less the premium received for the put plus the cash required to sell the put is less than the price of the underlying.
I think its key to understand what your positions actually mean and how they will behave, then you can decide what actions fit with your beliefs and risk tolerance.
You can't do either of the things you're asking about. The math doesn't work. You should be up at least 25% on the trade, but that's nowhere near enough to take out all of the puts or roll I single call into two separate strikes.
Yeah, I would make the argument that the stock market has largely shrugged off politics in recent years.Ragoo said:disagree. Just because we are living in it doesn't make the current situation any more unique than any other time of crisis in the past.thirdcoast said:Ragoo said:
Forum 16 is that way
On one hand we all hate political opinions and debate here. On the other hand, there has never been another time in history where the stock market is more connected to politics. Fortunately political warfare is much more predictable than novel viruses. Just watch Boeing over the next 2 months.....it may become as stock thats only safe to discuss on forum 16.
Let me expand:
Discussing political or government activity as it relates to the economy is fine. Labeling something as socialism or other is just political ideology and has no place on this thread.
24 hr fitness talking about Ch 11....no doubt others are also. It's only a matter of time before balance sheets matter again.
Yes, i understand that this is a leveraged long position. Maybe a better way to say net premium was that the premium that I collected on the put was equal to the premium that I paid for the call. Yes I understand that if it settled below 6$ I would be put them to me.
The calls are up. 58% and the puts are up 68% so far.
The calls can continue to rally, but the puts are nearing zero so limited additional profit potential. I am happy to buy them back at these levels
I think that the trade will continue to rally, but would like to take some of the profits from the calls to buy back all the puts exposure leaving the remainder calls as "free".
The problem becomes trying to best capture the bid / ask spreads on selling out calls and buying back the puts with out having to hit the ask/bid on each leg of the option
The calls are up. 58% and the puts are up 68% so far.
The calls can continue to rally, but the puts are nearing zero so limited additional profit potential. I am happy to buy them back at these levels
I think that the trade will continue to rally, but would like to take some of the profits from the calls to buy back all the puts exposure leaving the remainder calls as "free".
The problem becomes trying to best capture the bid / ask spreads on selling out calls and buying back the puts with out having to hit the ask/bid on each leg of the option
I understand that the values might not be thre yet in my example, just more curious of how to do the trade entry so when we get closer to the values then I can put the orders in as a limit trade. If I get filled great, if not then no loss
Maybe one of the better ways to capture the profits on the $6 calls would be to sell the $6 call and buy the $7 call and collect 90 or 95 cents
This books some profits and allows me to continue to be rewarded if the stock rallies
Thoughts?
Maybe one of the better ways to capture the profits on the $6 calls would be to sell the $6 call and buy the $7 call and collect 90 or 95 cents
This books some profits and allows me to continue to be rewarded if the stock rallies
Thoughts?
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