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Tex117 said:

Its impossible for real estate to guys to understand this.

Im glad RE works for some people. Some have made alot of money doing it. No question about that.

But for me, I do absolutely effing nothing but let my money make me money.


I agree with this take. I already have a job that takes up a massive amount of my time and don't want an investment that comes with a time commitment. I work in finance, have a CFA charter, and refuse to invest in individual stocks because I don't want to have to keep up with them.
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With paydown and appreciation I am averaging about 12-14% per year + the depreciation I receive which makes most of it non-taxable. This is all after I pay a property management company which means I am completely hands off.

I promise you I have tried to talk myself out of real estate a dozen times. I could never find a way to get cash flow AND have my money continue to grow. In the market, I was choosing one or the other. And since this was how I paid most of my bills when I opted out of the rat race at 40, having both cash flow AND growth was a pretty big deal to me. But I certainly wouldn't push anyone to get into RE. It's not for everyone.
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When you die, your kids won't have to pay the capital gains tax on the sale of the portfolio right? Step up on basis and can just liquidate, or am I completely wrong on that?
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That's right for taxable brokerage accounts and assets below the federal estate tax limit, which I think is currently $15 million. Taxes will be owed at ordinary tax rates on retirement accounts like IRA's and 401k's and certain annuity products that are tax deferred.

*Not a tax expert, just an observer/participant in this glorious tax system.
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herewegoagain said:

I became work optional at 40. investments (re) pay the bills, 4 kids college funds funded, and now any work I choose (keyword) pays for vacations and charitable giving. Damn good feeling to know at any point or because of any BS I can walk.

That feeling is second only to actually walking.
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This thread needs to be renamed Billionaires due the inflation that has occured since it was started.
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Cumulative 43.3% since 2013 (vs 35.3% from 2000 to 2013).
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The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.
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MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


Been saying this for a long time! Glad we can all agree on the new threshold.
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MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.

Why raise the bar by investment returns vs buying power? Didn't make much sense.
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AggieFrog said:

MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.

Why raise the bar by investment returns vs buying power? Didn't make much sense.

Exactly. Inflation adjusted $1 million is the correct metric not market return.
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Based on that the new threshold is $1.4M. That still lets a lot of you lolpoors post here. Not sure I agree with that. I like $5M.
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MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


The bar is $5.5
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$3mm is a good hurdle imo. $1mm is not something you can count on lasting anymore
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topher06 said:

$3mm is a good hurdle imo. $1mm is not something you can count on lasting anymore
maybe im wrong, but I'm imaging many people on here hitting that $1m mark during mid career and still growing it.

No one is coning in here saying they got a million bucks, time to retire!
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Depends how old you are now.
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YouBet said:

Based on that the new threshold is $1.4M. That still lets a lot of you lolpoors post here. Not sure I agree with that. I like $5M.

$1.4M for single, and $2.8M for married folks.

This thread isn't about retirement, as that would be an entirely different metric for every individual person.
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This the millionaire thread for people to celebrate their milestone of hitting $1MM regardless of age or time to retirement. If yall want a multi-millionaire thread go start it up. Otherwise let's continue on and stop all the dumb qualifiers.

My wife and I probably broke into the millionaire club at 39, when including home equity and all savings. Now, at 40, we're in the millionaire club when just considering "liquid" assets, inclusive of retirement savings. We're approaching total net worth of $2MM probably in the next year or so.
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MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


$4B

An investment of $1,000,000 in Bitcoin (BTC) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $4,021,557,147 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.
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txaggie_08 said:

This the millionaire thread for people to celebrate their milestone of hitting $1MM regardless of age or time to retirement. If yall want a multi-millionaire thread go start it up. Otherwise let's continue on and stop all the dumb qualifiers.

My wife and I probably broke into the millionaire club at 39, when including home equity and all savings. Now, at 40, we're in the millionaire club when just considering "liquid" assets, inclusive of retirement savings. We're approaching total net worth of $2MM probably in the next year or so.


I would like the bar to be at my net worth so I can exclude 80% of you all and be part of a more exclusive club. We need to add another dimension - age adjusted wealth. Don't want to see any more of these celebrations of hard work in your 50s! Don't you know that inflation exists!
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EliteZags said:

MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


$4B

An investment of $1,000,000 in Bitcoin (BTC) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $4,021,557,147 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


An investment in the right weekly option of $1,000,000 has had similar returns millions of times over the last 14 years. I guess I should be buying options with all my excess cash then.

Too poor to buy the Moderna $65 calls last week for $.01 - probably worth about $100 today? #$1MMto$10B since last week? Maybe don't buy Moderna calls today. Or bitcoin.
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Gordo14 said:

EliteZags said:

MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


$4B

An investment of $1,000,000 in Bitcoin (BTC) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $4,021,557,147 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


An investment in the right weekly option of $1,000,000 has had similar returns millions of times over the last 14 years. I guess I should be buying options with all my excess cash then.

Too poor to buy the Moderna $65 calls last week for $.01 - probably worth about $100 today? #$1MMto$10B since last week? Maybe don't buy Moderna calls today. Or bitcoin.


Weekly options for 14 years?
That's a crapload more work than buy one time and hold!
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62strat said:

Gordo14 said:

EliteZags said:

MyMamaSaid said:

The bar is $5.1M as of today.

An investment of $1,000,000 in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $5,102,419 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


$4B

An investment of $1,000,000 in Bitcoin (BTC) on January 30, 2013, is worth approximately $4,021,557,147 as of the market close on August 21, 2026.


An investment in the right weekly option of $1,000,000 has had similar returns millions of times over the last 14 years. I guess I should be buying options with all my excess cash then.

Too poor to buy the Moderna $65 calls last week for $.01 - probably worth about $100 today? #$1MMto$10B since last week? Maybe don't buy Moderna calls today. Or bitcoin.


Weekly options for 14 years?
That's a crapload more work than buy one time and hold!


It's actually less work. Buy the right option (just like buying the right random asset that people FOMO into) and you don't have to open a wallet and worry about getting hacked and robbed of your wealth for 14 years. Of course this also requires bitcoin to have the same return over the next 14. I bet it won't come close. The right option that makes a better return in a shorter period of time is always there. So it's irrational to act as though bitcoin was some kind of predictable or unmatchable opportunity. Which are two of the three key pillars of the church of bitcoin.
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The nature of my work causes me to frequently encounter millionaires. They tend to come in two classes.

1.) the "boring" guy who has been dumping buckets of money into savings and investment vehicles, every month for 17 years. He is driving a used car that you would never notice and still living in a starter house. He hits the second million, 5 years later, and starts thinking really hard about retiring at the moment that his kid graduates from high school. He'll tell you that compounding and automatic deduction did all of the work while he slept. He'll also tell you that during the first 12 years, you can't really see that you're quietly winning the game, because all you see around you are people driving BMWs and buying ever-pricier houses.

2.) the guy who owns equity in a business and worked his ass off. He'll tell you some bull**** story about being in the right place at the right time and that he was insanely lucky. When you ask him why he is in his office on Sunday afternoons, he'll tell you that "Sunday afternoon in the office was good enough for Sul Ross. It's good enough for me."

I have no trouble pointing to examples that occupy both classes at the same time.

One other thing that I have noticed at the office, is that the guy who took his kids to Disneyland on 3 continents in the same year is always down in the CFO's office, begging to have his draw increased, no matter how much you pay him. His net worth really never starts to outrun his income, because his lifestyle outruns his income. The guys in the office who are actually HNW & VHNW look at him and think, "fortunately for the owners, that ******* will have to row like a galley slave until he dies."
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I guess me and my wife hit a million sometime here recently between our 401Ks, brokerage accounts and HSA account. Probably around 1.4 million if we include home equity but we need to see the house paid off and still have a decade to go. I dont really think of the house for net worth because its for retirement, not a loan. House is a nice backup plan liquidity only

We were both late to retirement accounts. So we've lived frugal the last decade, saving somewhere around half our income into 401K, brokerage and HSA account.

We both drive 30K, 8 and 9 yr old automobiles

I would not say I feel comfortable where we are at 57 and 48
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My experience of the guys in the "boring" group is that they don't tend to feel comfortable where they are. That's why they continue to grow.

Again, once those guys get that first liquid million, the second seems to arrive pretty quickly.
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Vestal_Flame said:

My experience of the guys in the "boring" group is that they don't tend to feel comfortable where they are. That's why they continue to grow.

Again, once those guys get that first liquid million, the second seems to arrive pretty quickly.


That is simply not straying from what they were doing and the magic of math.
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Vestal_Flame said:

My experience of the guys in the "boring" group is that they don't tend to feel comfortable where they are. That's why they continue to grow.

Again, once those guys get that first liquid million, the second seems to arrive pretty quickly.

As my former boss said, once you hit $1MM you think its not enough so you save for $2MM. Then the number is $5MM. He finally retired at 65 with $7MM net worth. He's 73 now and $10MM net worth and says he can't spend his money fast enough. I've volunteered to help, but so far he hasn't taken me up on it.
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Yes that describes me exactly.

-17 years dumping money in s&p. It took 10 years to hit 1MM and 2 more to hit 2MM. Closing in on 5MM currently.
- still driving my first truck, still living in the starter home.
- key is to never keep up with Jones when your young. Do the hard work early on. Now I'm able technically able to retire at 40.
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YouBet said:

That is simply not straying from what they were doing and the magic of math.

Yup.
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SockMcSock said:

SockMcSock said:

Class of '10
Business owner for 7+ years
Married with kids - wife has corporate job

Net worth - $4.75m

Pretty good mix between the house ($1m+ equity in it), retirement funds (401k's, IRA's), HYSA's. CD's, and speculative stock trading (800k+ in that account).

Net worth - $6.5m+

Good year for biz + all the investment accounts have been on a tear

11 months later

Net worth ~$8m

Same formula as above. Have been putting a lot of money in the market over the last few years.
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I suppose we are in the "boring" category, but haven't been overly rigid. I'm 40 and have just shy of $1M in 401K and IRAs - just north of $1M if you count a small pension that will keep growing too. Built this by contributing monthly over the past 15 years to 401K and IRAs.

We don't bare bones it but I'd say we are fairly conservative in the sense that changing our retirement contributions is a non-negotiable...meaning we will always scale back spending to make sure that portion of our budget is never at risk.

We have splurged at times. We buy new cars, but drive them for 8-10 years. We moved out of our starter house, but enjoy the added space. We spent $130K on our pool/landscaping, but the amount of time we've spend together as a family there is worth every penny. We send our kids to private school. We contribute to their 529s. We take a nice vacation every year.

We have found a nice balance between strong savings and enjoying life/making decisions we feel comfortable with. There can be an in between and we love it.

Also, I'm on track to retire by 55 (earlier if my salary trajectory remains intact).

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JDUB08AG said:



We have splurged at times. We buy new cars, but drive them for 8-10 years. We moved out of our starter house, but enjoy the added space. We spent $130K on our pool/landscaping, but the amount of time we've spend together as a family there is worth every penny. We send our kids to private school. We contribute to their 529s. We take a nice vacation every year.

We have found a nice balance between strong savings and enjoying life/making decisions we feel comfortable with. There can be an in between and we love it.



So important. Treat yourself (responsibly) once in a while. If you don't you will eventually resent/regret working so hard for just numbers on a screen (or if you don't your family will)
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sockerton said:


- key is to never keep up with Jones when your young. Do the hard work early on. Now I'm able technically able to retire at 40.


It is this right here. The world is absolutely begging for you to spend all of your money, especially in the 30 year old range when you may be buying houses and starting a family. It is here, right here, when instead of keeping up with the Joneses, you invest as heavily as possible. By the time your are 40(ish), you are in an incredibly strong financial position. You have all the options in the world. Want to work more to get more cushion for your retirement? Go for it. Want to stop putting money away for retirement and spend what you make? You can do that too (as your retirement is funded and will keep growing).

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