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Kinda quirky and only available on the website, but here's a good explanation: https://thepointsguy.com/loyalty-programs/united-expert-mode/

Back in the late 90s/early 2000s yahoo travel used to show the same data for *all* us airlines. Was way too easy back then to game the system for comp upgrades on CO.
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Re: Travel Points and Credit Cards

If you're looking to maximize your credit card points for travel check out Freedom Travel Systems and their owner Eli.

They average just over $.04 per cc point worldwide and $.072 per cc point to Europe. If you want to get the every best value you shouldn't be booking/redeeming through the Credit Card Company's web site using your points. You need to transfer points to travel partners and strike while a deal
Is hot.
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EvenPar said:

Re: Travel Points and Credit Cards

If you're looking to maximize your credit card points for travel check out Freedom Travel Systems and their owner Eli.

They average just over $.04 per cc point worldwide and $.072 per cc point to Europe. If you want to get the every best value you shouldn't be booking/redeeming through the Credit Card Company's web site using your points. You need to transfer points to travel partners and strike while a deal
Is hot.


Thanks Eli!
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EvenPar said:

Re: Travel Points and Credit Cards

If you're looking to maximize your credit card points for travel check out Freedom Travel Systems and their owner Eli.

They average just over $.04 per cc point worldwide and $.072 per cc point to Europe. If you want to get the every best value you shouldn't be booking/redeeming through the Credit Card Company's web site using your points. You need to transfer points to travel partners and strike while a deal
Is hot.
WTF is this? There's no info they are providing you that you can't gain for free by reading blogs and forums. That website is full of red flags.
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Great point and very true. Pretty much anything can be learned these days by the methods you mention, web sites, blogs, YouTube, etc.

Was just offering an option for those whose time might be more valuable than spent researching.

I pay someone to mow and fertilize my lawn as well. Different strokes.
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Fair enough, something about that site just seems a bit sus to me. I think the numbers they cite are overinflated and most of their testimonials appear to be from young influencer types. Just doesn't seem trustworthy to me, but if you vouch for the information, so be it.
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GarlandAg2012 said:

Fair enough, something about that site just seems a bit sus to me. I think the numbers they cite are overinflated and most of their testimonials appear to be from young influencer types. Just doesn't seem trustworthy to me, but if you vouch for the information, so be it.


I would use the The Points Guy. That site is pretty much the gold standard for figuring out how to maximize your points and picking the right credit cards....if you care about such things.
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YouBet said:

GarlandAg2012 said:

Fair enough, something about that site just seems a bit sus to me. I think the numbers they cite are overinflated and most of their testimonials appear to be from young influencer types. Just doesn't seem trustworthy to me, but if you vouch for the information, so be it.


I would use the The Points Guy. That site is pretty much the gold standard for figuring out how to maximize your points and picking the right credit cards....if you care about such things.
I'm an avid points/miles person and I follow the space pretty closely. TPG was my gateway into the hobby (I definitely consider it a hobby because I don't spend a lot of time trying to maximize value, its more like a puzzle that I enjoy solving that can sometimes save me a good deal of money). As he has monetized the site more, I think the quality gone down a bit, but for news and information it can still be very useful. His main business now is driving people to CC referrals and products that he has a business relationship with (like expertflyer). It's not bad though.

Other sites that are very useful:
  • Frequent Miler
  • Flyertalk
  • Doctor of Credit
  • One Mile at a Time

There are some facebook, reddit, and discord groups as well that can be really helpful but there are also a lot of noobs who just ask a question and then never stay to actually build the community, so it can be hit and miss.
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MyMamaSaid said:

Petrino1 said:

Question for the millionaires on this board. At what level of net worth do you allow yourself to splurge on stuff like business class seats, nicer cars, nicer vacations etc? When I reached a million I decided that I would always try and upgrade to at least exit row or premium economy class on planes, having lots of airline miles helps as well.
Great question. For me, it was a combination of NW and age. Influenced by Millionaire Next Door (MND) and Die with Zero (DWZ), I started 'splurging' on experiences once NW hit low 7 digits and I turned 45. Some anecdotal data points:

- I had a total of 4 cars over 25 years (like MND) and have had the same Tahoe since '09 that I've modified extensively as a hobby. Like DWZ, at 45 I then bought an M2 as a second fun car, traded for a GT4 in '19 (made $35k on that car when I sold it!!), then bought another GT4 in '22 and have kept that one. I bought a new X3M Comp when they first came out in '20, then traded it for another LCI X3M Comp in '22, then sold it in early '24. So….4 cars in 25 years, then 5 (expensive & fun) cars in the past 8 years. I'm down to the '09 Tahoe and the '16 GT4, doubt I ever sell either one of them.

- I'm a million miler on UA (going back to CO days from IAH) and 1K every year on biz travel, so have tons of points. I play expert mode on UA's website and almost always buy B our Y to get auto-upgrade to first domestically. I make 1-2 trips internationally (not including Mexico) a year and always buy biz class seats.

- Definitely taking 'trips of a lifetime' since ~2016/turned 45, but my version of these are sometimes inexpensive and more about the time & experience than anything. Rafting/camping down the Snake River in Idaho for a week, hiking/camping in Glacier NP for a week, mountain biking in Ketchum, ID for a week, a week on a catered catamaran in BVI for a week (that was indeed expensive), Cabo for fishing in prime season (fishing expensive, everything else cheap), etc. My wife and I are investing in an Airstream this summer and will base it out of Heber City, UT going forward for camping trips all around the western US and Canada. Why Heber City? Well, that leads me to the biggest splurge…

- A townhouse in Park City, UT. I house hunted with a realtor for almost 10 years and finally found a great place at a great price in May '23. It has been awesome and has already appreciated beyond my wildest expectations. We spent about 13 weeks total there in '23 and '24, planning on about the same in 25. Long-term, we are planning to spend ~6 months a year based there upon retirement in mid-'28. All that to say maybe part splurge/part investment.
Oh hell yeah.

We let our hair down last year @ 36 when we hit 75% of our FI number. By most assumptions it only impacts our RE date by +/- 1 year (45 years old). The stash has returned way more than what we have been putting in the past two years. We still save, but rate went from ~40% to ~10%.

So we're "coasting" to an eventual RE. The wife has gone part-time (1 kido in K, 1 on the way). I'm still full-time, but remote and done climbing the ladder.

But the big shift was a Sprinter Van conversion. Full-gas time and memory investment. Wife spec'd the entire thing: custom finishes, seats/sleeps 4, shower, galley, fridge, toilet. AWD with bike and ski rack on the back. We spend almost every Friday night through Sunday morning camping/skiing the mountain (6 year old rips already). We also have Ikon this year and have already tripped Deer Valley, Sun Valley and Bachelor over the break. Last summer we did OR coast > NorCal > Tahoe > Bend and back trip. This summer we're going BC > Banff > MT > ID > back. It has Starlink and again, I'm remote working EST from PST. I start at 5 and typically done around 1PM.

New little is due in September. I get paternity (16 weeks) and plan on starting Jan '26. Baby and I are going to get after it in the van.
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RangerRick9211 said:

MyMamaSaid said:

Petrino1 said:

Question for the millionaires on this board. At what level of net worth do you allow yourself to splurge on stuff like business class seats, nicer cars, nicer vacations etc? When I reached a million I decided that I would always try and upgrade to at least exit row or premium economy class on planes, having lots of airline miles helps as well.
- Definitely taking 'trips of a lifetime' since ~2016/turned 45, but my version of these are sometimes inexpensive and more about the time & experience than anything. Rafting/camping down the Snake River in Idaho for a week, hiking/camping in Glacier NP for a week, mountain biking in Ketchum, ID for a week, a week on a catered catamaran in BVI for a week (that was indeed expensive), Cabo for fishing in prime season (fishing expensive, everything else cheap), etc. My wife and I are investing in an Airstream this summer and will base it out of Heber City, UT going forward for camping trips all around the western US and Canada.
Oh hell yeah.

We let our hair down last year @ 36 when we hit 75% of our FI number. By most assumptions it only impacts our RE date by +/- 1 year (45 years old). The stash has returned way more than what we have been putting in the past two years. We still save, but rate went from ~40% to ~10%.

So we're "coasting" to an eventual RE. The wife has gone part-time (1 kido in K, 1 on the way). I'm still full-time, but remote and done climbing the ladder.

But the big shift was a Sprinter Van conversion. Full-gas time and memory investment. Wife spec'd the entire thing: custom finishes, seats/sleeps 4, shower, galley, fridge, toilet. AWD with bike and ski rack on the back. We spend almost every Friday night through Sunday morning camping/skiing the mountain (6 year old rips already). We also have Ikon this year and have already tripped Deer Valley, Sun Valley and Bachelor over the break. Last summer we did OR coast > NorCal > Tahoe > Bend and back trip. This summer we're going BC > Banff > MT > ID > back. It has Starlink and again, I'm remote working EST from PST. I start at 5 and typically done around 1PM.

New little is due in September. I get paternity (16 weeks) and plan on starting Jan '26. Baby and I are going to get after it in the van.
We're cut from similar cloth, for sure. Love the DWZ approach to "full-gas time and memory investment" approach to life. Don't ever stop….awesome that you're spending time getting out using your Ikon passes.

I left out a 10 day trip a few years ago to Bend, Bachelor, Crater Lake, Deschutes, Detroit, etc. Ran into a family of 3 in a Sprinter Van with a similar setup at Pacific Park in Bend. The scene was a great memory, speaking of dividends:


We are planning to outfit the camper with StarLink and lots of other creature comforts to be able to make long runs like those you've outlined above. Next summer we're doing PC > ID (a week rafting/fishing/hiking on the Salmon River) > Sawtooth NRA > Ketchum. And then maybe another trip down through Zion > Bryce > Glen Canyon > Capital Reef > Dead Horse Point. Just so many awesome journeys out there.
 
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