***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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the Astros are definitely not out of the woods yet
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txags11 said:

Does Arizona have the tie breaker on Chicago? They're 2 up on Miami and Chicago as it sits
yes, the D-Backs have the tiebreaker on the Cubs

not on the Marlins though

big day tomorrow in the NL
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Brown on the final day of the year worries me. A lot.
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Bullpen game led by Bennett Sousa
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very short leash

very short
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Is there a chance we go Urquidy instead? Seems like that would be optimal
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Doubt it. Urquidy is worse.
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W said:

very short leash

very short
Yeah, need Urquidy ready for long relief that day. I would consider starting him over Brown, let Hunter come in for long relief where he can really give it everything knowing he isn't expected to go 6-7 innings.

But, it depends on where things are at that point, the last game could very well be meaningless for the Astros.
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Does this seem right?

We win all 3:
- 2 seed if Tex loses 3+ of 4 vs M's
- 5 seed if Tex wins 2+ of 4 and BJ's lose 2+ of 4 Yanks / TB
- 6 seed otherwise

We win 2 of 3:
- 2 seed impossible. If Tex loses all 4. 3-way tie, M's would have best overall h2h record (since normal h2h is a 3-way tie)
- 5 seed if BJ's lose 3+ of 4 and M's lose 1+ of 4 OR Tex loses all 4 and BJs lose 2+ (we win 3-team here somehow)
- 6 seed if M's lose 1+ of 4 and BJ's win 2+ of 4 OR Tex loses all 4 and BJs win 3+
- can't miss playoffs as Tex would miss playoffs if M's win all 4 or possibly BJs miss if they lose 2+ and lose the 3-way tie

win 1 of 3:
- 5 seed if BJ's lose all 4 and M's lose 2+ of 4
- 6 seed if M's lose 2+ of 4 and BJ's win 1+ of 4
- miss playoffs if BJ's win 1+ of 4 and M's win 3+ of 4

win 0 of 3:
- 5 seed impossible
- 6 seed if M's lose 3+ of 4
- miss playoffs if M's win 2+ of 4


Edit to update per comments.
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Seems right to me

This breaks it down with specifics on the tiebreakers, albeit this is prior to the games tonight, but it sums it up with who has tied who.

Important to note that the 3-way tiebreaker for the AL West is not settled by the division record, but by the combined records against the teams that are tied.

https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-mlb-postseason-three-team-and-four-team-tiebreaker-scenarios
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Tags from the top rope
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Mr President Elect said:

Does this seem right?

We win all 3:
- 2 seed if Tex loses 3+ of 4 vs M's
- 5 seed if Tex wins 2+ of 4 and BJ's lose 2+ of 4 Yanks / TB
- 6 seed otherwise

We win 2 of 3:
- 2 seed impossible. If Tex loses all 4. 3-way tie, M's would have best record vs the West (since h2h is a 3-way tie as well)
- 5 seed if BJ's lose 3+ of 4 and M's lose 1+ of 4
- 6 seed if M's lose 1+ of 4 and BJ's win 2+ of 4
- can't miss playoffs as Tex would miss playoffs if M's win all 4

win 1 of 3:
- 5 seed if BJ's lose all 4 and M's lose 2+ of 4
- 6 seed if M's lose 2+ of 4 and BJ's win 1+ of 4
- miss playoffs if BJ's win 1+ of 4 and M's win 3+ of 4

win 0 of 3:
- 5 seed impossible
- 6 seed if M's lose 3+ of 4
- miss playoffs if M's win 2+ of 4

So basically looking at it from just making postseason lens…

If win 2 against ARZ we are in regardless

If win 1 against ARZ we need rangers to at least split series and we are in

That correct? While we are in much better shape after tonight's win this is far from over.

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Don't forget Toronto, they hold the tiebreaker over us. 3-way tie with HOU, TOR, SEA ends with Astros out
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2 wins vs Arizona and we are in. 3 way tie at 89 with Seattle
And Texas and the Rangers stay home. Seattle would win the division.
4 way tie at 89 and the blue jays stay home. We are 5 seed at tampa and rangers are 6 at Minnesota.

The rangers simply need 2 wins to grab the 2 seed with 91 wins. Astros just need 1 win in that case to eliminate Seattle.

Best case for Houston is probably Texas winning Th and Fri
And we beat arizona on Friday. Texas wins the division and Seattle is eliminated. We can set up the pitching for the Minnesota series starting Tuesday.

5 times we clinched the playoffs on the final day of the season. Unless the 2 seed is up for grabs clinching Friday is a good thing.
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3 way tie with tor and Seattle would have to be at 88 wins. 89 wins would be a 4 way tie with Texas that eliminates Toronto.

Toronto would have to finish 1-3 while Houston is 1-2 and Seattle goes 3-1. It's possible but I suspect Toronto at home can go at least 2-2 vs TB.
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Good morning, Astro Fans!

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Went to bed when it was 7-3, thankfully woke up to the win.
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Dusty: I love Julio Rodriguez so GD much. He's everything you want in a CF. Tall, rangy, flashy. He's way better than our CF, even though his stats are worse. I'd love to pencil him in CF for the Astros everyday.

Neris:
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At this point I think it's best if we get the 6th and go on the road and play the Twins.
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Just sweep Arizona and let the chips fall where they may
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W said:

txags11 said:

Does Arizona have the tie breaker on Chicago? They're 2 up on Miami and Chicago as it sits
yes, the D-Backs have the tiebreaker on the Cubs

not on the Marlins though

big day tomorrow in the NL


If Arizona, Cubs, and Marlins tie the cubs are the team out. So everyone cross your fingers for Arizona beating the white sox tonight and the Cubs losing to Atlanta because that will clinch it for the diamondbacks.
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LincolnBorglum79 said:

2 wins vs Arizona and we are in. 3 way tie at 89 with Seattle
And Texas and the Rangers stay home. Seattle would win the division.
4 way tie at 89 and the blue jays stay home. We are 5 seed at tampa and rangers are 6 at Minnesota.

The rangers simply need 2 wins to grab the 2 seed with 91 wins. Astros just need 1 win in that case to eliminate Seattle.

Best case for Houston is probably Texas winning Th and Fri
And we beat arizona on Friday. Texas wins the division and Seattle is eliminated. We can set up the pitching for the Minnesota series starting Tuesday.


5 times we clinched the playoffs on the final day of the season. Unless the 2 seed is up for grabs clinching Friday is a good thing.
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Neris strike out, going after ****** rod and then winning was even better than hitting him. Now people want to go after him for bad words **** all the way off

all hail king neris
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strohag said:

At this point I think it's best if we get the 6th and go on the road and play the Twins.


Whatever gets us the most road games is the right option
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can someone help me understand what got in to Neris last night? Was there a history between the two of them?
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He held on to a grudge for a year because of that?

I think Neris was probably more upset about something that happened the last couple nights.
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Frok said:

He held on to a grudge for a year because of that?

I think Neris was probably more upset about something that happened the last couple nights.
I think it's less of a grudge and more of a "I don't like that motherf***er and I can't wait to shove it up his ass when the time comes."
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Did Hector Neris save the season by finally lighting a fire under our ass? Let's hope so
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Hopefully this is the match to light the fire similar to Oswald vs Barrett in 04

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Let's hope so because we are going to need it. DBacks playing good ball.
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This is starting to get interesting.
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I think coño would probably translate as a stronger word for female genitalia that starts with a c
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