***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
Id take Jose also...honest question though who not on the roster would you even think?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:


You cant regress upwards, I believe that might be more like revert to the mean or something similar
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Would you have wanted to trade for this arm even if we has Urquidy & Garcia?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
Id take Jose also...honest question though who not on the roster would you even think?


Dirden. JJ. Leon. Hell Gilbert.
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Mathguy64 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
Id take Jose also...honest question though who not on the roster would you even think?


Dirden. JJ. Leon. Hell Gilbert.
And those folks are taking whose spot in the lineup and taking who off of the 40 man?

My assumption would be that we will not see anyone "new" up here until he have a major injury. and I for one hope the injuries are behind us
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
Id take Jose also...honest question though who not on the roster would you even think?


Dirden. JJ. Leon. Hell Gilbert.
And those folks are taking whose spot in the lineup and taking who off of the 40 man?

My assumption would be that we will not see anyone "new" up here until he have a major injury. and I for one hope the injuries are behind us
Sorry but Salazar can kick rocks if it means we get one of those guys a look.
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He will be dropped im sure when Jose comes back. Martinez will be dropped when Lance comes back.

The last thing we need right now is another OF candidate:
Chas
Jake
Tucker
Julks
Yordan
If necessary Dubon

edit to add I dont see them dropping him off the 40 man either. Very good chance Lee gets traded and Salazar is the backup up the future behind Diaz
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
Id take Jose also...honest question though who not on the roster would you even think?


Dirden. JJ. Leon. Hell Gilbert.
And those folks are taking whose spot in the lineup and taking who off of the 40 man?

My assumption would be that we will not see anyone "new" up here until he have a major injury. and I for one hope the injuries are behind us


Texags needs a sarcasm tag. Sorry. I was trying to be be funny. I would take a PTBNL. Because I don't think Captain Lou had one left in the tank. He's got all the visual looks of a guy way beyond his open and use by date. If he were a carton of milk it would be chunky by now.

We got suckered and if this were year 3 instead of year 1 I honestly believe they would be considering DFAing him and eating the sunk cost. Unfortunately it's year 1. So we are stuck with this abomination for 2 years at a minimum.
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Totally agree on Abreu, but at the same time, none of those guys are an answer at 1B, JJ maybe but he was already DFA'd that was not done lightly and no one else saw enough to steal him.

If we cut Abreu we need to make a trade for someone else serviceable maybe someone would take him in a trade if we eat the cost + Dirden etc for a new firs baseman. Sadly Hensley isn't the answer or we would be set
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Farmer1906 said:

Beat40 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Based on the quotes from the Rome article back in late April, I would say Abreu is working his ass off and willing to adjust as needed.

But looking at 2020 (MVP) vs now not a ton has changed.
Except he's extremely late. When you look at the still photos from point of contact, he's way off balance.

So the question begs...is it father time, an unknown injury, or a mechanical issue?


Agreed. His 2020 swing fires as soon as his front foot hits the ground. Now he's a split second delayed. Hands might be in a slightly different spot too. I kind of wish we had a view from the side to compare.

If I had to guess it's probably a little of both. Father Time is undefeated, but 36 year olds don't go from very very good to one of the worst in baseball.


I've always seen Abreu as similar to Altvue and Brantley in that they are pure hitters. I agree with your statement in bold that I would not expect a pure hitter to drop off from one of the best to one of the worst in one season.

I lean towards his issues are mechanical and can be fixed.

Or, maybe he just needs an eye exam :-)
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Mathguy64 said:

The last ones left on the active 26 man with a goose egg in the HR column:

Abreu
Dubon
Salazar.

Add in Jose and Mike when (or if?) they return.

Who gets off the list next?

I'll bet $10 that Jose gets his first. Hell, I'll bet $10 that someone not on this list gets one before Captain Lou Abreu gets one.
it's also troubling the number of guys who are sitting on just 1 or 2 home runs at this point

Jake, Machete, Julks, and Hensley have combined for 368 at-bats and produced a grand total of 7 homers
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Farmer1906 said:

Would you have wanted to trade for this arm even if we has Urquidy & Garcia?


We wouldn't need another starter if they were healthy and performing as they have, right?Maybe a bullpen arm depending on Stanek and Montero.

Am I missing something? I feel like you're setting me up for an aha moment.
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I mean...That's about what I expect for HRs from that group.
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Marvin said:

Farmer1906 said:

Would you have wanted to trade for this arm even if we has Urquidy & Garcia?


We wouldn't need another starter if they were healthy and performing as they have, right?Maybe a bullpen arm depending on Stanek and Montero.

Am I missing something? I feel like you're setting me up for an aha moment.


No. My point i made poorly earlier was that what we have seen from Bielak & France has been better than Garcia & Urquidy this year. Do I think they can stay as good as they have been? No. But I think they can match what we got from Garcia & Urquidy. Especially if we have reinforcements coming. They both won't need to do it all year. Maybe neither will.
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Farmer1906 said:

Marvin said:

Farmer1906 said:

Would you have wanted to trade for this arm even if we has Urquidy & Garcia?


We wouldn't need another starter if they were healthy and performing as they have, right?Maybe a bullpen arm depending on Stanek and Montero.

Am I missing something? I feel like you're setting me up for an aha moment.


No. My point i made poorly earlier was that what we have seen from Bielak & France has been better than Garcia & Urquidy this year. Do I think they can stay as good as they have been? No. But I think they can match what we got from Garcia & Urquidy. Especially if we have reinforcements coming. They both won't need to do it all year. Maybe neither will.


France is an unknown, so maybe he can. Bielak is not a replacement for anyone and never has been. If the Astros need him for 10 starts or 50 meaningful innings they are in trouble. Maybe not other years, but there's no cushion this season. Just my opinion.
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even poor right-handed hitters can find the Crawford Boxes

Biggio needs to stop by the locker room and give them some tips
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Which Bielak is the real Bielak?

2021


2023


he clearly doesn't have swing and miss stuff
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Let's hope we can rough up Taillon like last year.

Brexit

Breggy Single

YorDONG

TED Double

Alvarez Single

Tucker Single

Excluded the hits by Altuve & Brantley
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Space city day!!
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Farmer1906 said:

Based on the quotes from the Rome article back in late April, I would say Abreu is working his ass off and willing to adjust as needed.

But looking at 2020 (MVP) vs now not a ton has changed.




To me, I see his hips turning before moving forward. Spinning off the ball too soon, back foot over rotation, thats the off balance and lack of power.
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It's been a whole week without Yainer getting a start behind the dish. Dusty has worked him in at 1B & DH tho. He's now on pace to play 65 games and get 211 plate appearances.
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All I do is Nguyen said:

Space city day!!


Not too bad except Abreu should be 7th. But Dana would have to literally submit the lineup card himself for that to happen.
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We are batting a guy in the 5 hole with the 3rd lowest OPS of all qualified hitters in MLB. And tied for 2nd lowest wRC+.

Who is second worse? Tony Kemp. We are literally choosing to bat Tony Kemp in the 5 hole.
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What would it take to convince the Cubs to just let Mancini stay behind when they left town?

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Abreu and we keep the salary difference??
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Quote:

Or, maybe he just needs an eye exam :-)

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2018 - 1 rehab start
2019 - 5
2022 - 2
2023 - 3 so far for 1 more confirmed.
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Ag_07 said:

What would it take to convince the Cubs to just let Mancini stay behind when they left town?


I know that Abreu has been so putrid that a constipated nugget turd would be an improvement, but Mancini is continuing the sucking he did here for the Cubs as well.
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Point being it's a huge upgrade over what Abreu is doing.
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