DallasAg 94 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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There's no need to get defensive about it. We're simply pointing out that they made the exact addition you described. The young guys will have time to come along. You can't have 3 guys on the back end of your rotation that you HOPE will get through 5 innings…Perez helps us out in that aspect.

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Exactly. He wanted a certain type of pitcher added and it was pointed out they did add exactly that guy. Instead of "fair point", now he's shifted as if pointing that out means we think is a playoff staff or something. They needed a vet to eat innings, but this is a year where the most important thing is to figure out what they can be in 2023-2026. They don't need a ton of 30 something guys at the end of the road

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Perez also gives us that guy that could be a valuable trade chip along the way.

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I'd LOVE for that to be the case.

Do we get a trophy for Cactus League champs?

Educate the uneducated here.. is Alexy not expected to be in the rotation to start the year? Just curious, I thought he looked really promising from the few games I watched towards the end of last season. Is he expected to factor in this year?

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Educate the uneducated here.. is Alexy not expected to be in the rotation to start the year? Just curious, I thought he looked really promising from the few games I watched towards the end of last season. Is he expected to factor in this year?

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I think he is one of the final options. Likely starts at AAA and called up during the season.

Gray and Martin Perez were signed to be added to the rotation.

Dunning is our last hope of getting a multi-year starter. He completes a solid 3 in the rotation.

Hearn is likely #4. He has too much talent and is probably the closest. Can he bring the heat and keep his control?! We'll see.

Allard is among those... maybe 3-4 guys we're considering as a #5. I haven't seen him in ST, but Allard and Alexy, Winn... and then, IMO, I think we likely find a spare part that is cut from another team. We'll slide him in, and then after a couple weeks, start to come to a routine rotation (hopefully).

Otherwise, we'll rotate guys in and out. JD has toyed with a "Starter" similar to a "Closer." That may be one route. Last year, JD tried pairing SP. We had 3 SPs and 4-5 hopefuls. JD decided he'd try the "If he goes 2-3 IP, I can bring in another SP for 2-3 IP" hoping he could get a complete GS using 2 pitchers.

No clue what JD and CY have planned for us.

The general consensus seems to be:

Gray, Perez - They were signed to be starters and are expected to be
Dunning - If he is going to be a starter, now is the time, If not, he needs to be something else. So start him now.
Hearn - His stuff is too good to not give him a good long look as a starter.

For fifth guy, most likely is Allard for the same reason of Dunning - he's been around long enough we need to find out what he is

Next up - Howard, Otto, Alexy, Patton - in some order. Maybe Winn is he's tearing up the minors later this year. We really would love a few home grown starters - I know we all salivate at the big $ FAs, but economically, you need some serfs starting since $ is not infinite, especially when you've spent half a billion on your starting middle infielders.

Arihawa - Unless something changes, they just eat last year of his contract and call it a failed experiment.

So I read an article this weekend that accentuated just how total this rebuild has been.

Longest tenured Ranger - Jose Le Clerc

Second longest - Willie Calhoun

I'm not sure I like the use of the term "rebuild." Of the 14 players critical to 2022, 8 of them were signed as FAs this offseason. That can be done in any offseason by any team.

Only 1 of them - Ibanez - was brought up in the Rangers system. I'm assuming the FAs we signed like Carpenter, Kole, and traded for like Garver, are starters

Based on yesterday's game. Strike-throughs are players in the lineup and I've replaced them with whom I believe replace them on the OD roster.
Semien (2B) December 1, 21
Seager (SS) December 1, 21
Garcia (CF) - Acquired 12/21/19
Solak (DH) - Acquired 7/13/19
Miller (LF) March 17, 22
Ibanez (3B) - 2015
Carpenter (1B) March 20, 22
White (RF)
Kole Calhoun (RF) Nov 30, 21
Trevino (C)
Garver (C) March 12, 22

Rotation
Dunning - Acquired 12/8/20
Gray December 1, 21
Perez March 14, 22
Hearn - Acquired 7/31/18


Regarding tenure... Yikes. If LeClerc and Calhoun are your long-term players, I think it shows a failure in your minors.

LeClerc was drafted/signed by Tex Nov 20, 2010. Debut for Tex on July 6, 2016
Calhoun was drafted by LAD in 2015. Debut for Tex on Sept 12, 2017
Trevino was drafted by Tex in 2014. Debut for Tex on June 15, 2018

Mr Gigem said:

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FYI, the coupon code for discount tickets to Rangers games is now active. The code is TEXAGS22.

Instructions below in case you need. I'll post this again in the official season thread once we start it

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Is there a way to enter this code for community night or theme night tickets via the web? Was trying to use it for the Texas A&M cap night, and could figure out how to do it.

DallasAg 94 said:

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I'm not sure I like the use of the term "rebuild." Of the 14 players critical to 2022, 8 of them were signed as FAs this offseason. That can be done in any offseason by any team.

Only 1 of them - Ibanez - was brought up in the Rangers system. I'm assuming the FAs we signed like Carpenter, Kole, and traded for like Garver, are starters

Based on yesterday's game. Strike-throughs are players in the lineup and I've replaced them with whom I believe replace them on the OD roster.
Semien (2B) December 1, 21
Seager (SS) December 1, 21
Garcia (CF) - Acquired 12/21/19
Solak (DH) - Acquired 7/13/19
Miller (LF) March 17, 22
Ibanez (3B) - 2015
Carpenter (1B) March 20, 22
White (RF)
Kole Calhoun (RF) Nov 30, 21
Trevino (C)
Garver (C) March 12, 22

Rotation
Dunning - Acquired 12/8/20
Gray December 1, 21
Perez March 14, 22
Hearn - Acquired 7/31/18


Regarding tenure... Yikes. If LeClerc and Calhoun are your long-term players, I think it shows a failure in your minors.

LeClerc was drafted/signed by Tex Nov 20, 2010. Debut for Tex on July 6, 2016
Calhoun was drafted by LAD in 2015. Debut for Tex on Sept 12, 2017
Trevino was drafted by Tex in 2014. Debut for Tex on June 15, 2018

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It seems like during the time when the rangers were competing, teams were willing to trade prospects to go for championships. When the rangers decided to rebuild, seemingly every team in MLB decided in unison that they wanted to hoard their prospects for nearly 5 years and not trade them. Teams like the Yankees and the Twins showed us that they would rather lose in the playoffs then trade for our guys.

Things have changed since then, but there was about a 2-3 year period where we all were expecting a lot of guys to be moved at the trade deadline to improve our farm and it just never happened.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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It seems like during the time when the rangers were competing, teams were willing to trade prospects to go for championships. When the rangers decided to rebuild, seemingly every team in MLB decided in unison that they wanted to hoard their prospects for nearly 5 years and not trade them. Teams like the Yankees and the Twins showed us that they would rather lose in the playoffs then trade for our guys.

Things have changed since then, but there was about a 2-3 year period where we all were expecting a lot of guys to be moved at the trade deadline to improve our farm and it just never happened.

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The Rangers followed the trends of every other team and the results are SHOCKING... if everyone is a buyer the cost goes up. If everyone is a seller the cost goes down.

IMO, it is more about are you a leader or a follower. JD is a follower. What you described is JD doing what the other teams were doing

The Rangers like many teams were willing to trade prospects to go for Championships. The Yankees were taking on salary for few if any prospects because they were willing to pay salary. The Rangers gave up more prospects so trading teams would eat the money. The Rangers were like many teams giving up prospects.

That was very common.

Enter things like MoneyBall. Oakland, Tampa, and the Marlins were recipients of the strategy above and built up lots of talent and coordinated it to make runs at the playoffs. Sure they had down years, but their few fans didn't care. The 10K fans/game didn't get upset. So, teams started to do that. Teams quit trading their prospects. So, the Rangers couldn't sell their players for prospects.

That became very common.

The Astros decided you can get BETTER prospects by tanking several years.trade off your current players for prospects and then hold your players in the minors longer so you have control. So, teams started to that, including the Rangers. Tanking became prevalent and that flooded the market with quality players that outnumbered the few teams actually competing. And since there were fewer teams competing they didn't have the urgency to chase players that other teams were looking at.

That is very common.

JD struck gold with Josh Hamilton. Take Josh Hamilton out and the Rangers are very mediocre under JD.

It cannot applied for community/theme night tickets

ESPN graded out each team's off-season and gave us a grade of "B".

Mr Gigem said:

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It cannot applied for community/theme night tickets

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Thanks for the update and providing us the code each year

Legal Custodian said:

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ESPN graded out each team's off-season and gave us a grade of "B".

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I honestly think that's about right. Compared to what most expected it's a definite A because I feel we've been beaten down the last few years but if we added a few more bullpen arms I'd have given it an A for sure.

We put together the top middle infield in baseball, added 2 innings eaters to the starting rotation, added an outfield bat, and acquired a top 5 offensive catcher. To call that a 'B' grade is unfair in my opinion.

Legal Custodian said:

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We put together the top middle infield in baseball, added 2 innings eaters to the starting rotation, added an outfield bat, and acquired a top 5 offensive catcher. To call that a 'B' grade is unfair in my opinion.

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I think it is relative to existing talent.

It was a huge talent infusion. If we were a mediocre team after 2021, we'd likely be favorites for the WS. However, in addition to what we added, we needed a ToTR SP and more than just an OF bat. We needed a relevant OF bat.

IKF -> Seager was a big improvement, but not a huge improvement.

The left side of the IF went from:
Ibanez + IKF -> Ibanez + Seager
if we kept IKF
IKF + Seager would have been even better.

Moving Solak from 2B to DH is a wash, although we essentially replaced an empty DH spot with Semien at 2B.

But, the rotation is still an unknown and was our biggest issue to address. We didn't sign much:
Gray cost $15M
Perez cost $ 4M

For 2017, we gave Tyson Ross $6M and Cashner $10M as big gambles.

I don't know that we needed to gamble more than we did with SP, but I can see the issue.

One last point.

If... IF...

Dunning can get 25+ GS, 150 +/- IP with below a 4.5 ERA in 2022
Leiter is the ToTR guy... or even just a 1/2 SP for 2023 and
Winn emerges as a mid-rotation guy by ASB 2022
Gray is a 27+ GS, 170 IP, with a 4.25 ERA

We have some really significant opportunity.

I like that Martin Perez came back. I love his backstory and suspect if he gets things on the right track, he could be worth a longer term investment for team-friendly money.

For those that don't know... DMN Article
He signed what was considered a deal with the Rangers that was very favorable for the team. He was trying to get his family out of Venezuela and was willing to sell out his Arb years to get money up front. JD... for all the crap I give him, helped Perez facilitate the necessary Political and Legal hurdles to get his family out.

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Perez acknowledged that concerns about the economic and political uncertainties in his native country prompted him to have his agent, Felix Olivo, approach the Rangers about the deal. Perez plans on applying the $1 million signing bonus to relocating his family to the United States.

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Things didn't progress the way we thought they would. Brocail was a terrible pitching coach for him and the distractions of political turmoil likely stunted his progress.

Regardless, I'm still hoping he reaches the potential he was projected with.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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It seems like during the time when the rangers were competing, teams were willing to trade prospects to go for championships. When the rangers decided to rebuild, seemingly every team in MLB decided in unison that they wanted to hoard their prospects for nearly 5 years and not trade them. Teams like the Yankees and the Twins showed us that they would rather lose in the playoffs then trade for our guys.

Things have changed since then, but there was about a 2-3 year period where we all were expecting a lot of guys to be moved at the trade deadline to improve our farm and it just never happened.

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The Rangers followed the trends of every other team and the results are SHOCKING... if everyone is a buyer the cost goes up. If everyone is a seller the cost goes down.

IMO, it is more about are you a leader or a follower. JD is a follower. What you described is JD doing what the other teams were doing

The Rangers like many teams were willing to trade prospects to go for Championships. The Yankees were taking on salary for few if any prospects because they were willing to pay salary. The Rangers gave up more prospects so trading teams would eat the money. The Rangers were like many teams giving up prospects.

That was very common.

Enter things like MoneyBall. Oakland, Tampa, and the Marlins were recipients of the strategy above and built up lots of talent and coordinated it to make runs at the playoffs. Sure they had down years, but their few fans didn't care. The 10K fans/game didn't get upset. So, teams started to do that. Teams quit trading their prospects. So, the Rangers couldn't sell their players for prospects.

That became very common.

The Astros decided you can get BETTER prospects by tanking several years.trade off your current players for prospects and then hold your players in the minors longer so you have control. So, teams started to that, including the Rangers. Tanking became prevalent and that flooded the market with quality players that outnumbered the few teams actually competing. And since there were fewer teams competing they didn't have the urgency to chase players that other teams were looking at.

That is very common.

JD struck gold with Josh Hamilton. Take Josh Hamilton out and the Rangers are very mediocre under JD.

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Don't forget the mark teixera trade that made GM's all over MLB **** themselves and be extra cautious in dealing with JD.

It's a shame that we got Matt Harrison tho. Imagine if the Braves included a different stud pitcher prospect. We could've gotten a Greg Maddox or Tom glavine type it was just bad luck.

hawk1689 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Grapesoda2525 said:

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It seems like during the time when the rangers were competing, teams were willing to trade prospects to go for championships. When the rangers decided to rebuild, seemingly every team in MLB decided in unison that they wanted to hoard their prospects for nearly 5 years and not trade them. Teams like the Yankees and the Twins showed us that they would rather lose in the playoffs then trade for our guys.

Things have changed since then, but there was about a 2-3 year period where we all were expecting a lot of guys to be moved at the trade deadline to improve our farm and it just never happened.

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The Rangers followed the trends of every other team and the results are SHOCKING... if everyone is a buyer the cost goes up. If everyone is a seller the cost goes down.

IMO, it is more about are you a leader or a follower. JD is a follower. What you described is JD doing what the other teams were doing

The Rangers like many teams were willing to trade prospects to go for Championships. The Yankees were taking on salary for few if any prospects because they were willing to pay salary. The Rangers gave up more prospects so trading teams would eat the money. The Rangers were like many teams giving up prospects.

That was very common.

Enter things like MoneyBall. Oakland, Tampa, and the Marlins were recipients of the strategy above and built up lots of talent and coordinated it to make runs at the playoffs. Sure they had down years, but their few fans didn't care. The 10K fans/game didn't get upset. So, teams started to do that. Teams quit trading their prospects. So, the Rangers couldn't sell their players for prospects.

That became very common.

The Astros decided you can get BETTER prospects by tanking several years.trade off your current players for prospects and then hold your players in the minors longer so you have control. So, teams started to that, including the Rangers. Tanking became prevalent and that flooded the market with quality players that outnumbered the few teams actually competing. And since there were fewer teams competing they didn't have the urgency to chase players that other teams were looking at.

That is very common.

JD struck gold with Josh Hamilton. Take Josh Hamilton out and the Rangers are very mediocre under JD.

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Well he also traded for Nelson Cruz, Cliff Lee, Elvis Andrus, Matt Harrison, Cole Hamels, Yovani Gallardo, David Murphy, Mike Napoli, and Nefali Feliz.

He scouted Colby Lewis and Yu Darvish out of Japan.

He signed Adrian Beltre.

Other than that, he really did nothing to build two pennant winners and four divisions in the midst and aftermath of owner bankruptcy.

Some of you guys have really short memories.

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He did make those moves and he deserves a lot of credit for building the 2010 and 2011 teams.

Who did it better? pic.twitter.com/1glfU18qlh

— B/R Walk-Off (@BRWalkoff) March 28, 2022

Meanwhile……. Is a long multi year extension with ponies coming Will Smiths way? We all know that was how Odor got his long term deal. The punch made him a fan favorite for some reason.

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Well he also traded for Nelson Cruz, Cliff Lee, Elvis Andrus, Matt Harrison, Cole Hamels, Yovani Gallardo, David Murphy, Mike Napoli, and Nefali Feliz.

He scouted Colby Lewis and Yu Darvish out of Japan.

He signed Adrian Beltre.

Other than that, he really did nothing to build two pennant winners and four divisions in the midst and aftermath of owner bankruptcy.

Some of you guys have really short memories.

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Without Hamilton, little of that has value and likely doesn't happen. Sure, JD had some wins in FA and trades, but was his net-benefit positive, negative, or a wash?! Largely... a wash.

Let's go through that.

Nelson Cruz - Hard to give you this one. He was left exposed to Rule V by the Rangers and nobody wanted him. For 3 years with the Rangers (until 27) he was mostly a AAAA spare. Nobody knew he was going to start the Roid machine. After testing positive, he was give FA by the Rangers, averaging 27 HRs/Season, he went to average 41 HRs/Season for the next 6 seasons.

Cliff Lee (15GS, 3.98ERA) essentially for Justin Smoak (1286 G, .229, 196 HRs, .322 OBP)
Lee walks. Signs with Philly where he goes 106 GS, 2.89 over 4 seasons.

The Atlanta trade was memorable. It was originally thought to be a HUGE Blockbuster. Probably JD's biggest steal.
Elvis Andrus + Matt Harrison + Nefali Feliz for Teixeira.

Cole Hamels - I like Hamels but clearly Hamels did not like JD and Brocail while he was here. He came under the idea that Texas wasn't going to rebuild. He spoke out against JD's idea of using a 6-Man rotation. His splits for Texas (88GS, 3.90 ERA) were not what the Rangers thought they were getting (294GS, 3.30 ERA before trade with Philly), nor after (39 GS, 3.30 ERA) in CHC.
Philly got Alfaro (143 G, .270, 40 HR), Eickhoff (80GS, 4.35 ERA)

Yovani Gallardo - That was a win.

David Murphy - Win. We signed Gagne with the hope he'd do well enough to trade and that happened. Murphy wasn't great, but he was a fan favorite.

Mike Napoli - Win. Even more off-the-field.

Colby Lewis - Great Win
Yu Darvish - Great Win

He signed Adrian Beltre - Best Get, by far.

Add these clunkers:
Soriano (1173 G, .263 BA, 250 HRs 120 SB) in 9 seasons after being traded. Put this in the Nelson Cruz Camp. Nobody would have known a 30+ year old would juice to success until 38.

Adrian Gonzalez + Chris Young to SDP for almost nothing (Eaton).
Gonzalez (23) had 59 G with MLB and team control. He went on to go 1870 G in 13 seasons and hit .289, 310 HR, with a .360 OBP. Yikes.
Chris young (26) had 38 GS and team control. He went on to go on to have 183 GS with a 3.88 ERA in 11 Seasons.

JD got Brandon McCarthy from CHW and McCarthy had 3 seasons with the Rangers - 44GS, 4.68 ERA. NOT what the Rangers thought they were getting.
John Danks, who had not made his debut for MLB went on for 247 GS, 4.38 ERA for CHW for 10 Seasons. 6 of those years were favorable team controlled years.

For every FA Win - Colby Lewis, Yu Darvish, there was losers - Kevin Millwood
For every Great Trade - Murphy - there are losers - Crush Davis (add to Cruz variety), Danks.

JD made back-to-back WS appearances on the back of Josh Hamilton and has done little else.

I meant to include Kyle Hendricks.

Dumpster: 12 GS, 5.09 ERA for 1 Season.
Hendriks: 206 GS, 3.36 ERA for 8 Seasons... 6 under team control

He's lost some for sure. That's part of it. Tanner Roark and Chris Davis were also pretty bad. Overall, he's been one of the best GM's in baseball throughout his career. The good outweighs the bad by far.

DallasAg 94 said:

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hawk1689 said:

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Well he also traded for Nelson Cruz, Cliff Lee, Elvis Andrus, Matt Harrison, Cole Hamels, Yovani Gallardo, David Murphy, Mike Napoli, and Nefali Feliz.

He scouted Colby Lewis and Yu Darvish out of Japan.

He signed Adrian Beltre.

Other than that, he really did nothing to build two pennant winners and four divisions in the midst and aftermath of owner bankruptcy.

Some of you guys have really short memories.

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Without Hamilton, little of that has value and likely doesn't happen. Sure, JD had some wins in FA and trades, but was his net-benefit positive, negative, or a wash?! Largely... a wash.

Let's go through that.

Nelson Cruz - Hard to give you this one. He was left exposed to Rule V by the Rangers and nobody wanted him. For 3 years with the Rangers (until 27) he was mostly a AAAA spare. Nobody knew he was going to start the Roid machine. After testing positive, he was give FA by the Rangers, averaging 27 HRs/Season, he went to average 41 HRs/Season for the next 6 seasons.

Cliff Lee (15GS, 3.98ERA) essentially for Justin Smoak (1286 G, .229, 196 HRs, .322 OBP)
Lee walks. Signs with Philly where he goes 106 GS, 2.89 over 4 seasons.

The Atlanta trade was memorable. It was originally thought to be a HUGE Blockbuster. Probably JD's biggest steal.
Elvis Andrus + Matt Harrison + Nefali Feliz for Teixeira.

Cole Hamels - I like Hamels but clearly Hamels did not like JD and Brocail while he was here. He came under the idea that Texas wasn't going to rebuild. He spoke out against JD's idea of using a 6-Man rotation. His splits for Texas (88GS, 3.90 ERA) were not what the Rangers thought they were getting (294GS, 3.30 ERA before trade with Philly), nor after (39 GS, 3.30 ERA) in CHC.
Philly got Alfaro (143 G, .270, 40 HR), Eickhoff (80GS, 4.35 ERA)

Yovani Gallardo - That was a win.

David Murphy - Win. We signed Gagne with the hope he'd do well enough to trade and that happened. Murphy wasn't great, but he was a fan favorite.

Mike Napoli - Win. Even more off-the-field.

Colby Lewis - Great Win
Yu Darvish - Great Win

He signed Adrian Beltre - Best Get, by far.

Add these clunkers:
Soriano (1173 G, .263 BA, 250 HRs 120 SB) in 9 seasons after being traded. Put this in the Nelson Cruz Camp. Nobody would have known a 30+ year old would juice to success until 38.

Adrian Gonzalez + Chris Young to SDP for almost nothing (Eaton).
Gonzalez (23) had 59 G with MLB and team control. He went on to go 1870 G in 13 seasons and hit .289, 310 HR, with a .360 OBP. Yikes.
Chris young (26) had 38 GS and team control. He went on to go on to have 183 GS with a 3.88 ERA in 11 Seasons.

JD got Brandon McCarthy from CHW and McCarthy had 3 seasons with the Rangers - 44GS, 4.68 ERA. NOT what the Rangers thought they were getting.
John Danks, who had not made his debut for MLB went on for 247 GS, 4.38 ERA for CHW for 10 Seasons. 6 of those years were favorable team controlled years.

For every FA Win - Colby Lewis, Yu Darvish, there was losers - Kevin Millwood
For every Great Trade - Murphy - there are losers - Crush Davis (add to Cruz variety), Danks.

JD made back-to-back WS appearances on the back of Josh Hamilton and has done little else.

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Don't forget trading for brad Wilkerson and trading tanner roark for 30 games of a washed up Christian guzman. Trading prospects for that crappy reliever from Baltimore Koji uehara or something.

hawk1689 said:

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He's lost some for sure. That's part of it. Tanner Roark and Chris Davis were also pretty bad. Overall, he's been one of the best GM's in baseball throughout his career. The good outweighs the bad by far.

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Should read:

Overall, he's been one of the best GM's in Arlington throughout his career. The good outweighs the bad by far.

JD had a couple exploits that the Rangers benefited from. I'll credit him with those. Once those closed, he really has struggled to infuse talent into the system.

Preller was a key player in JD's success. Preller established the LATAM connection learning Spanish and establishing camps in the DR and created a pipeline. Preller also got smacked by MLB for falsifying birth certificates and paying people to steer young players to the Rangers. 2011 was an incredible signing year for Texas on the Int'l market.

The result of that was the Pool Money and a more formal International signing process.

I'm sure who the genesis was for the Rangers exploiting the FA rules. The Rangers signed players like Gagne and leveraged them for deadline trades. The leverage was if they can't trade the player, they get Draft pick compensations. That was another reason teams would get more for trades. The Red Sox got the #45 pick as compensation for losing Gagne.

That same draft, Milwakee got Francisco Cordeiro from the Rangers and received the #32 pick. They took Jake Odorizzi.

Ron Mahay was another traded that year by the Rangers. Braves got the #40 pick. Mahay was sent with Teixeira to Atlanta.

Grapesoda2525 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Soriano (1173 G, .263 BA, 250 HRs 120 SB) in 9 seasons after being traded. Put this in the Nelson Cruz Camp. Nobody would have known a 30+ year old would juice to success until 38.

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Don't forget trading for brad Wilkerson and trading tanner roark for 30 games of a washed up Christian guzman. Trading prospects for that crappy reliever from Baltimore Koji uehara or something.

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Brad Wilkerson was part of the Soriano return.
Koji was the return for Chris Davis and Tommy "Big Game" Hunter.

Forgot Tanner Roark (184 GS, 3.85 ERA, 1155 IP) in 9 seasons. Team control for the 1st 6 years.
We got Guzman who gave us 15G, .152, 0 HR

Now, Don't get me wrong. I don't fault JD for giving up significant talent for our WS runs. You can't foresee a decline and sometimes you have to pay to get what you need for the result you want (World Series). It is about asset and talent management to maximize your runs.

The problem I have is that the Rangers found and exploited the system and did something different than everyone else was doing... and we won. MLB has largely closed those.

JD has struggled to be relevant since MLB focused on parity in those areas.

One last comment on JD and this illustrates my point.

JD has been the GM from 2006 to 2021, for a total of 16 seasons. During that time, the Rangers have played 2491 Games. His record: 1,246-1,245.

7 Seasons over .500
9 Seasons under .500

In the first 8 seasons (2006-2013) he was over .500 5 times.
In the last 8 seasons (2014-2021) he has been over .500 twice.

It takes 4-5 years to develop drafted talent. If JD was an effect GM, his 2nd half would exceed his 1st half. Did he inherit a talent rich team and squandered it?

The fact CY for 2022 has signed 8 FAs to fill the roster where 13 positions have been determined and 1 still remains, indicates there isn't a great build-up of developed talent over the past 5 years.

Interesting stat on JD. I liked him early on but he really needs to go. I realize he is not the GM anymore but one could argue he is not worthy of his promotion a couple of years ago. He still calls a lot of the shots and I don't think that's a good thing.

I really wonder if the Chris Young hire wasn't a "GM in waiting" type hire so that they don't have to out and out fire a GM that got us to two WS. Maybe after a few years of CY being the GM in function, Daniels can announce he's retiring and leaving the organization in good hands.

This feels like Chris Young's team now. This organization's main issue has been the draft