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Team with best divisional record.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does?

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Beat40 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Home runs seem to do more to swing momentum than walk, single, single.

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If you're looking for the silver lining, the solo HRs probably also keeps his pitch count down.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Don't get your hopes up on the offense. CFM has allowed 2 or fewer runs in 19 of his 27 starts. His worst start was 5 runs over 5-2/3 Innings. The silver lining is that he usually only goes 6.

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redline248 said:

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Beat40 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Home runs seem to do more to swing momentum than walk, single, single.

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If you're looking for the silver lining, the solo HRs probably also keeps his pitch count down.

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In truth, I do sort of agree with farmer's point. 2 runs are 2 runs. The pitch count thing is also valid, I think. Hard to measure the psychological difference between slow trickle of runs vs instant scoring

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SquirrellyDan said:

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redline248 said:

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Beat40 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Home runs seem to do more to swing momentum than walk, single, single.

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If you're looking for the silver lining, the solo HRs probably also keeps his pitch count down.

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In truth, I do sort of agree with farmer's point. 2 runs are 2 runs. The pitch count thing is also valid, I think. Hard to measure the psychological difference between slow trickle of runs vs instant scoring

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With the slow trickle of runs, there's always a chance of giving up a three run bomb. I'd take the option of very few runners ever being on the base paths. Eliminates excessive pitches, let the pitcher focus solely on the batter, don't have to worry about pitching around guys, fewer errors in the field, infield can line up in ideal positions, etc.

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redline248 said:

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SquirrellyDan said:

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redline248 said:

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Beat40 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Home runs seem to do more to swing momentum than walk, single, single.

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If you're looking for the silver lining, the solo HRs probably also keeps his pitch count down.

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In truth, I do sort of agree with farmer's point. 2 runs are 2 runs. The pitch count thing is also valid, I think. Hard to measure the psychological difference between slow trickle of runs vs instant scoring

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With the slow trickle of runs, there's always a chance of giving up a three run bomb. I'd take the option of very few runners ever being on the base paths. Eliminates excessive pitches, let the pitcher focus solely on the batter, don't have to worry about pitching around guys, fewer errors in the field, infield can line up in ideal positions, etc.

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I agree, keeping guys off base is better. Just saying that the psychological bump given to a team for getting out of a jam could swing momentum in that teams favor, and vice versa for the team who can't get anyone on and then hits a bomb.

It's all part of the equation

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Prosperdick said:

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redline248 said:

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SquirrellyDan said:

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redline248 said:

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Beat40 said:

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redline248 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Ag_07 said:

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It'd be nice if JV doesn't give up multiple bombs as well.

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Why does it matter how he gives up the few runs he does? So he get extra credit for allowing 3 walks and 5 hits giving up 2 runs over 7 than he does allowing 2 solo shots over 7?

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Home runs seem to do more to swing momentum than walk, single, single.

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If you're looking for the silver lining, the solo HRs probably also keeps his pitch count down.

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In truth, I do sort of agree with farmer's point. 2 runs are 2 runs. The pitch count thing is also valid, I think. Hard to measure the psychological difference between slow trickle of runs vs instant scoring

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With the slow trickle of runs, there's always a chance of giving up a three run bomb. I'd take the option of very few runners ever being on the base paths. Eliminates excessive pitches, let the pitcher focus solely on the batter, don't have to worry about pitching around guys, fewer errors in the field, infield can line up in ideal positions, etc.

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I agree, keeping guys off base is better. Just saying that the psychological bump given to a team for getting out of a jam could swing momentum in that teams favor, and vice versa for the team who can't get anyone on and then hits a bomb.

It's all part of the equation

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So how does Justin prevent these solo homers from occurring? The most obvious answer is to change his approach and not challenge hitters as often. I wouldn't have him change anything since the overall results are fantastic and puts him squarely in the mix for the Cy Young.

I'm sure nobody hates those shots more than Verlander does but I bet the last thing Strom wants to do is have him alter his approach.

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Two statistics reflect the closeness of the AL race: Verlander leads the league with 239 strikeouts. Cole has one fewer (238). Cole leads the AL with a 2.75 ERA. Verlander is .02 behind at 2.77.

Here's a breakdown of the top three in each league:

MLB.com reporters were asked to rank their top three choices in each league, with five points for a first-place vote, three for second place and one for third.)

1. JV (21)
2. Cole (16)
3. CFM (0)

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SquirrellyDan said:

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mazag08 said:

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My God you guys can fill an entire page with pointless arguments.

I log in to see why so much posting during / after an off day.. only to find out its a bunch of little girls bickering over which way is the worst to give up two runs.

Not quite as bad though as three pages straight talking about merch you bought, that nobody cares about.

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So, like, what are you adding here?

Nobody was bickering, it was an interesting conversation.

One of the great things about baseball is all of the little numbers and analytics that go with it.

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Farmer1906 said:

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He was a shell of 2017-8 Ramirez. He's just an avg player this year. Dead on at 100 wRC+.

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