***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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MAROON said:

shano0603 said:

Lady suing the Astros claiming Orbit's T-shirt cannon broke her fingers.

https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/sports/mlb/astros/astros-fan-sues-for-1-million-claiming-orbits-t-shirt-cannon-broke-her-finger/285-773e6374-9933-4824-acf2-ea7ed9f7f944
bull crap....more like she broke it after she drunkenly fell down while wresting someone else for the t-shirt.


If you can stay for the end of the game, neither the mental nor the physical anguish is that severe.

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The woman went to the emergency room after the game where she was told she would need surgery. She later underwent two operations to fix the fracture.
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How is there not an assumption of risk in this situation?
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astros4545 said:

For any Photoshop gurus

Someone should shop Astros players onto Game of Thrones characters for Twitter Tuesday

I feel like this could make the broadcast like the Gattis/McCann Stepbrothers pic from last year

Also, need a new desktop background
Altuve as Tyrion
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I'm mostly a lurker, but, does Nuke LaLoosh normally respond to his own comments and semi-talk to himself?
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JRC0811 said:

I'm mostly a lurker, but, does Nuke LaLoosh normally respond to his own comments and semi-talk to himself?


It is best to just let Nuke be...Hinch does not want him to get rattled or angry.
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JRC0811 said:

I'm mostly a lurker, but, does Nuke LaLoosh normally respond to his own comments and semi-talk to himself?


YOU PEOPLE SHOULD CARE MORE ABOUT THIS ARTICLE
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That umpire bad call article is flawed. There was a much better one last year on fangraphs. I can find it right now but if I do I will link it in Its not so much the % of wrong calls but the consistency. Basically its a variation issue. Missing wide or wide and high isn't as bad as it sounds if the ump is internally consistent and always calling that every time. Some guys are internally consistent and some are just random goat ****ers. If I recall, Angel was one of the random bad guys
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You guys make way too big a deal about umpires.

To me 14 bad calls per game isn't that bad. That's 14 out of what about 300 pitches per game. Not a big deal in my eyes.

Plus at the end of the day the best teams end up playing each other for the championship every year. I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Frustrating during the game yes but not a big deal in the big picture.

I know...Roast me. But I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Another potential photo shop idea

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I agree that a dozen bad calls per game is no big deal IN THE REGULAR SEASON.

MLB playoffs tend to be more of a random crapshoot than other sports and if you add poor umpires into the mix it makes it far worse. How do you know that the best two teams make the World Series every year? Most years it is simply not true.

While Boston had a better record last year, an argument could be made that we were a better team in the regular season. In our playoff series we lost in 5 but each game turned on a couple plays and at least one game turned on an umpires call. To say 70 bad calls didn't affect the series is crazy.

The Astros actually had more hits, base runners, and a higher slugging percentage in the 5 games. Not to sound bitter (maybe I still am) but last years playoff series just sticks in my mind as a shining example of the importance of each pitch in a playoff scenario.

As baseball fans we should expect the league to take the performance of umpires seriously.
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Ag_07 said:

You guys make way too big a deal about umpires.

To me 14 bad calls per game isn't that bad. That's 14 out of what about 300 pitches per game. Not a big deal in my eyes.

Plus at the end of the day the best teams end up playing each other for the championship every year. I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Frustrating during the game yes but not a big deal in the big picture.

I know...Roast me. But I think y'all are making a mountain out of a molehill.


I don't think 300 pitches per game is accurate. Keep in mind any ball that a batter swings at isn't "called" by the umpire... and also throw out any pitches that are blatantly outside the zone.

14 missed calls per game out of say 50-80 balls in the "fringe" area is a huge deal.
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mathguy86 said:

That umpire bad call article is flawed. There was a much better one last year on fangraphs. I can find it right now but if I do I will link it in Its not so much the % of wrong calls but the consistency. Basically its a variation issue. Missing wide or wide and high isn't as bad as it sounds if the ump is internally consistent and always calling that every time. Some guys are internally consistent and some are just random goat ****ers. If I recall, Angel was one of the random bad guys


You're throwing out a lot of valid analysis on this article. We aren't talking "good or bad" calls, we are talking "right and wrong" calls. The strike zone is specifically defined.

How does your theory explain the variance in young vs old umps? Are you suggesting that young umps just have a better handle of the actual strike zone? If so, they should be the ones calling games.
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Also, screw the "big picture". If it's game 7 of the WS, bases loaded on a 3-2 count and a wrong call is made, it changes history... just like it could in literally any game leading up to those teams being in the WS.
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Nuke LaLoosh said:

JRC0811 said:

I'm mostly a lurker, but, does Nuke LaLoosh normally respond to his own comments and semi-talk to himself?


YOU PEOPLE SHOULD CARE MORE ABOUT THIS ARTICLE

What do you mean "YOU PEOPLE?!?!"
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Considering the amount of pitches for which there is really no question that it is a ball or strike, there is a foul ball, or the ball is otherwise put in play, I personally think that 1.5-2.5 missed pitches each inning is eye opening and a concern and is not really an immaterial amount.
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rosco511 said:

Considering the amount of pitches for which there is really no question that it is a ball or strike, there is a foul ball, or the ball is otherwise put in play, I personally think that 1.5-2.5 missed pitches each inning is eye opening and a concern and is not really an immaterial amount.
You sure about that?


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Haha, clearly there are exceptions.
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checking in with the Chris Sale extension...shelled again today in the Fenway opener.

only reaching 91 with his fastball
n_touch
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This is going to further hurt long term deals for pitchers. Dallas should take note.
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Big blow to Cleveland.
DVC2010
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They built their team to be just good enough to win a bad division and then count on good luck in the postseason. I hope Minnesota makes them pay for it.
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Agreed. They are wasting some legit pitching.
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W said:

checking in with the Chris Sale extension...shelled again today in the Fenway opener.

only reaching 91 with his fastball


He started fairly low (velo) in 16 and ramped up only to come back down. Then last year he started slow then really ramped up only to fall again. This year is down again. Lower than ever before. I would not feel safe paying him another 5(?) years.
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Farmer1906 said:




Big blow to Cleveland.


Bet they call Dallas up
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Big blow to my fantasy team.
Ags #1
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Mike Clevinger is not that special
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Ags #1 said:

Mike Clevinger is not that special


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JRC0811 said:

Big blow to my fantasy team.


Rule of thumb. No one cares about your FF team no matter the situation.
n_touch
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Think he has a lot more problems if he has him on his FF team
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Time to blow it up in Cleveland. I'll take Kluber instead of Keuchel, thank you very much.
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Nuke LaLoosh said:

mathguy86 said:

That umpire bad call article is flawed. There was a much better one last year on fangraphs. I can find it right now but if I do I will link it in Its not so much the % of wrong calls but the consistency. Basically its a variation issue. Missing wide or wide and high isn't as bad as it sounds if the ump is internally consistent and always calling that every time. Some guys are internally consistent and some are just random goat ****ers. If I recall, Angel was one of the random bad guys


You're throwing out a lot of valid analysis on this article. We aren't talking "good or bad" calls, we are talking "right and wrong" calls. The strike zone is specifically defined.

How does your theory explain the variance in young vs old umps? Are you suggesting that young umps just have a better handle of the actual strike zone? If so, they should be the ones calling games.
Im not throwing it out but I am suggesting there is more to it than "right" or "wrong" Umpires have tendencies. If you know he gives the call wide to right handed hitters you know you have to protect that side and can work with that. Its the wrong call but if he is consistent you can deal with that. I'm not talking about 10" wide but just off he black wide. A pitcher will exploit it and a hitter will protect it. That's fine until the ump gets random. If he only calls that a strike half the time now guys are pissed because he's inconsistent. The fangraphs article looked at the variance/inconsistency. They rated umps based on both correctness of call and internal variance. Correct and consistent is ideal. Incorrect and inconsistent is Angel Hernandez. Or Ron Kulpa the other night.
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It's just silly to me that we are now saying "wrong is okay if you're consistent about the wrongness"

A strike zone is right and wrong, black and white. If you consistently give 2" on the corner, you're consistently wrong. Crazy.
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Best lineup we have by far
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