***** Official Houston Astros 2019 Season Thread *****

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n_touch said:

White can not be DFA, no more options.


White can be DFA? That's what's will end up happening. To send him down to AAA they'd have to DFA.
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Would be nice to see us make a lower profile deal for a veteran starter in the next week or so. A guy on a bad team with an expiring contract so we don't have to give up much.

I presume the rotation post July 31 will be JV, Cole, headline trade acquisition, Miley and Peacock. So the lower profile acquisition wouldn't necessarily have a rotation spot. But would be nice to have some depth so we can keep guys rested down the stretch.
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You are correct. I get the terminology mixed up with this. I thought they had to be placed on Waivers and then DFA.
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So I was right? lol
n_touch
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My bad. As punishment I will rewatch 10 TW at bats
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Heck, just watch last night's. That will be enough.
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Peacock is like McHugh...I like him in the pen and don't want him in the rotation.

But a random acquisition for a guy like Mike Fiers who can slot in at #5 and bump Brad to the BP would be nice.

JV
Cole
Headline acquisition
Miley
Random Acquisition
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Agreed. Any type of acquisition can't be worse than the clown show of young guys we're running out there right now.
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you know things are bad when lifetime .500 Mike Fiers sounds like a good idea
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Y'all want fiers over peacock or mchugh
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Please no Mike fiers
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Seems like we could sign Cole for a few years after we DFA White given the money the Astros would save on the pre/post game spread.
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sts7049 said:

you know things are bad when lifetime .500 Mike Fiers sounds like a good idea
Don't laugh... remember when he carried the team in 2016? It could be worse...
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Yikes... guess he's not fixed the problems yet
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astros4545 said:

Y'all want fiers over peacock or mchugh

Not actually Mike Fiers but an acquisition like Mike Fiers was during that season.

Not a headline, top end pitcher but one who can come in and slot in the #5 spot.
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Ag_07 said:

astros4545 said:

Y'all want fiers over peacock or mchugh

Not actually Mike Fiers but an acquisition like Mike Fiers was during that season.

Not a headline, top end pitcher but one who can come in and slot in the #5 spot.
AND a top end SP, right?
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bearkatag15 said:



Yikes... guess he's not fixed the problems yet
astros4545
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We don't need a #5 for the playoffs

We do not need depth at starting pitcher in the regular season
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We can get by with Peacock and McHugh as the #5 to finish the year. We need anything big-time arm. I wouldn't mid a lefty for the pen either.
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astros4545 said:

We don't need a #5 for the playoffs True

We do not need depth at starting pitcher in the regular season False

We can't continue getting 1-2 IP out of our starters every 4th and 5th day.

Our BP will be completely gassed and worthless come playoff time.

It's embarrassing how little production we're getting out of the #4/5 spot in the rotation. A guy who can just give us 5 IP who won't make the playoff roster will go a long ways in the 2nd half.
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That's the thing. If you're fine with McHugh or Peacock as the 5, I won't argue. That just means we need to get a low profile vet reliever in here. One way or another we need to get two more veteran arms. One headliner and one low profile.
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jetch17 said:

After seeing Seth Beer out in midland last night, bring him up for fatty

I posted the same after seeing him in Corpus. Probably not ready yet, but I like his swing.
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I'd take another shot with McHugh as a starter this season. Especially once Joe Smith comes back and provides mid inning relief.

Worst case scenario: McHugh struggles again and you move him back to the pen for the remainder of the season / postseason. Best case scenario: McHugh does decent and can chew up 6 innings a start post a high 3 - low 4 ERA. I think eating innings as a starter would outweigh his value as a reliever during the regular season.
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My sense is that we're pretty committed to Bullpen McQ for the remainder of the year. More likely that Peacock stays in the rotation if we don't acquire a #5. But we shall see.
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Marvin said:

jetch17 said:

After seeing Seth Beer out in midland last night, bring him up for fatty

I posted the same after seeing him in Corpus. Probably not ready yet, but I like his swing.


Yeah it was a bit tongue in cheek at this point in my blind rage at TW

good swing, had a nice opposite field homer last night
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I'm over him as a starter

What has he done as a starter since his 19 game winning season in 2015?

Guy is at best mediocre as a starter but FILTHY as a reliever.
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Ag_07 said:

astros4545 said:

We don't need a #5 for the playoffs True

We do not need depth at starting pitcher in the regular season False

We can't continue getting 1-2 IP out of our starters every 4th and 5th day.

Our BP will be completely gassed and worthless come playoff time.

It's embarrassing how little production we're getting out of the #4/5 spot in the rotation. A guy who can just give us 5 IP who won't make the playoff roster will go a long ways in the 2nd half.


True

But I think I can assume this Hs just been a bad stretch and that they can go 5 innings the majority of nights
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ChAg1799 said:

sts7049 said:

you know things are bad when lifetime .500 Mike Fiers sounds like a good idea
Don't laugh... remember when he carried the team in 2016? It could be worse...

if we can get him cheap he's a guy that can give you a chance to win most of his starts and he's a workhorse that never fails to go out there every five days... You could really do a lot worse.

Like Framber. Or McHugh, with the double whammy because now you also lose a great bullpen guy.
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ChAg1799 said:

sts7049 said:

you know things are bad when lifetime .500 Mike Fiers sounds like a good idea
Don't laugh... remember when he carried the team in 2016? It could be worse...

he might not have been great, but he also led the team in innings pitched in 2017
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No Noah...
Ag_07
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No expected JV to be moved either

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Maybe it's just me but seeing the total lack of depth in the minors I really worry about trading away what few hopes we have on a guy we may only rent or have 1 extra year of control over.

If we want any chance at paying our guys ie springer, we have to get younger in the rotation. Just my .02
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I wouldn't read too much into it. The right offer comes and they'll make a move.

Remember DM confirmed 100x that CP3 would play for the Rockets this year and wasn't on the block.
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Ag_07 said:

I'm over him as a starter

What has he done as a starter since his 19 game winning season in 2015?

Guy is at best mediocre as a starter but FILTHY as a reliever.


Agreed he's mediocre at best. And I agree with another poster that he's probably destined for a bullpen.

But at this moment, I think the best thing for the bullpen would be a mediocre 5th starter who can consistently get you 5 or 6 innings. I wouldn't consider McHugh a postseason starter.
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cpsencik04 said:

Maybe it's just me but seeing the total lack of depth in the minors I really worry about trading away what few hopes we have on a guy we may only rent or have 1 extra year of control over.

If we want any chance at paying our guys ie springer, we have to get younger in the rotation. Just my .02


Lack of depth or lack of players ready to step in on a WS contending team now.

We still have some pretty highly regarded guys who just didn't light the world on fire right away in their early 20s. Most rankings still show up in the top third of baseball.
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