Enzo The Baker said:
Obi Wan Ginobili said:
Guitarsoup said:
CC09LawAg said:
That is a big 180 from him. He used to be obsessed with MVP and getting his due there.
I actually respect him for this and it probably is the best decision for him career wise. He is a force but always flames out in the playoffs. He owes it to himself to try to make some runs when the games actually matter instead of chasing regular season hardware at this point.
Embiid got his MVP (even though he didn't deserve it.) He kind of needs to focus everything on winning a title at this point.
He's probably going to be remembered as an empty stat guy.
That's how I'll remember Durant. His titles are empty and weak.
Durant is a top 15 player of all time imo. Definitely in the top 20.
Current Simmons one:
1. Michael Jordan May 11, 2018
2. LeBron James May 11, 2018
3. Bill Russell May 11, 2018
4. Kareem Abdul-Jabber
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan Nov. 11, 2019
8. Wilt Chamberlain Nov. 11, 2019
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Stephen Curry Jun. 17, 2022
11. Jerry West Jul. 2, 2021
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Hakeem Olajuwon
14. Shaquille O'Neal Nov. 11, 2019
15. Moses Malone
16. Kevin Durant Nov. 25, 2020
17. John Havlicek Aug. 16, 2018
18. Dirk Nowitzki Dec. 2, 2019
19. Elgin Baylor Aug. 16, 2018
20. Julius Erving Nov. 25, 2020
21. Bob Pettit Nov. 25, 2020
22. Karl Malone Nov. 25, 2020
23. Kevin Garnett Nov. 25, 2020
24. Charles Barkley Nov. 25, 2020
25. Nikola Joki Jun. 2, 2023
26. Giannis Antetokounmpo Jul. 21, 2021
27. Kawhi Leonard Nov. 25, 2020
28. Bob Cousy Nov. 5, 2019
29. Isiah Thomas Dec. 3, 2020
30. Dwyane Wade Nov. 5, 2019
31. Scottie Pippen Nov. 5, 2019
Quick thoughts:
- Robinson should be above Garnett/Barkley. Prime Robinson was criminally underrated, especially by Simmons, largely because of the Bob Hill/Dennis Rodman sabotaged WCF.. One of two players that led the league in 3 stat categories. Has MVP and two rings.
- I would build around Joker before Durant. His 3 MVPs should be 4 and Embiid didn't deserve that one. For the 4 years of his prime so far, Joker is averaging 26/12/9. That's insane.
- Hondo doesn't deserve to be top 20.