primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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In their 50-year franchise history, the Rockets have finished with over 55 wins three times.

The Rockets have never won 60 games in 50 years.

The Rockets have won their division once in the past 20 years.

Spurs have 17 seasons with over 55 wins (and were on track in both lockout seasons to win over 55).

Spurs have 9 seasons with a winning percentage over 73% with in the last 20 years. Rockets have never won 73% of their games.

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Pretty specific stats.

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73% = the cutoff for 60 wins in an 82 game season.

55 wins: Only teams that didn't win 55+ and still won the title since the modern NBA (added 3pt line, Bird/Magic join the league) are:

06 Heat - starting lineup missed 68 games to injury, won 52
04 Pistons - made big trade for Sheed and went 20-4 to close out the season at 54 wins
95 Rockets - 47 wins. Lowest win total by a champion. Had lots of injuries and the Clyde trade during the season

Bottom line, if you aren't winning over 55 games, you probably aren't a legitimate challenger for the title except for some unique circumstances like a blockbuster mid-season trade or major injuries during the season.

Teams with 60+ wins are even more likely to win it all and it is a mark that a team doesn't reach every single year.

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Here are some more stats:

• Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing.

• Spurs have won 0% of their playoff series against the Rockets (0-3). According to my research, it is difficult to win a Championship when you lose a playoff series in the same year.
• Rockets have 57% more HOF players than the Spurs.
• Rockets HOF Calvin Murphy has fathered more children than all of the Spurs HOF players combined.

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David_Puddy said:

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primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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In their 50-year franchise history, the Rockets have finished with over 55 wins three times.

The Rockets have never won 60 games in 50 years.

The Rockets have won their division once in the past 20 years.

Spurs have 17 seasons with over 55 wins (and were on track in both lockout seasons to win over 55).

Spurs have 9 seasons with a winning percentage over 73% with in the last 20 years. Rockets have never won 73% of their games.

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Pretty specific stats.

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73% = the cutoff for 60 wins in an 82 game season.

55 wins: Only teams that didn't win 55+ and still won the title since the modern NBA (added 3pt line, Bird/Magic join the league) are:

06 Heat - starting lineup missed 68 games to injury, won 52
04 Pistons - made big trade for Sheed and went 20-4 to close out the season at 54 wins
95 Rockets - 47 wins. Lowest win total by a champion. Had lots of injuries and the Clyde trade during the season

Bottom line, if you aren't winning over 55 games, you probably aren't a legitimate challenger for the title except for some unique circumstances like a blockbuster mid-season trade or major injuries during the season.

Teams with 60+ wins are even more likely to win it all and it is a mark that a team doesn't reach every single year.

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Here are some more stats:

• Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing.

• Spurs have won 0% of their playoff series against the Rockets (0-3). According to my research, it is difficult to win a Championship when you lose a playoff series in the same year.
• Rockets have 57% more HOF players than the Spurs.
• Rockets HOF Calvin Murphy has fathered more children than all of the Spurs HOF players combined.

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Quite absurd since the majority of those #s come from before 1996, and that is due to the fact that the Rockets have not been close to the same level as the Spurs since 1997 and haven't played each other since 1995. Congrats on that playoff series win over the Spurs when Hakeem was in his prime and in the 1980 & 1981 seasons, before the majority on this board were born. Certainly something to toot your horn about.

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aggie7911 said:

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Hall of Famer smack? Some idiot said the rockets weren't a great franchise despite the facts...all the fat spurs fans have is going to their heads.

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primomosquito said:

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David_Puddy said:

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primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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primomosquito said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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In their 50-year franchise history, the Rockets have finished with over 55 wins three times.

The Rockets have never won 60 games in 50 years.

The Rockets have won their division once in the past 20 years.

Spurs have 17 seasons with over 55 wins (and were on track in both lockout seasons to win over 55).

Spurs have 9 seasons with a winning percentage over 73% with in the last 20 years. Rockets have never won 73% of their games.

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Pretty specific stats.

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73% = the cutoff for 60 wins in an 82 game season.

55 wins: Only teams that didn't win 55+ and still won the title since the modern NBA (added 3pt line, Bird/Magic join the league) are:

06 Heat - starting lineup missed 68 games to injury, won 52
04 Pistons - made big trade for Sheed and went 20-4 to close out the season at 54 wins
95 Rockets - 47 wins. Lowest win total by a champion. Had lots of injuries and the Clyde trade during the season

Bottom line, if you aren't winning over 55 games, you probably aren't a legitimate challenger for the title except for some unique circumstances like a blockbuster mid-season trade or major injuries during the season.

Teams with 60+ wins are even more likely to win it all and it is a mark that a team doesn't reach every single year.

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Here are some more stats:

• Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing.

• Spurs have won 0% of their playoff series against the Rockets (0-3). According to my research, it is difficult to win a Championship when you lose a playoff series in the same year.
• Rockets have 57% more HOF players than the Spurs.
• Rockets HOF Calvin Murphy has fathered more children than all of the Spurs HOF players combined.

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Quite absurd since the majority of those #s come from before 1996, and that is due to the fact that the Rockets have not been close to the same level as the Spurs since 1997 and haven't played each other since 1995. Congrats on that playoff series win over the Spurs when Hakeem was in his prime and in the 1980 & 1981 seasons, before the majority on this board were born. Certainly something to toot your horn about.

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I think you missed the point. I was arguing that historical stats mean nothing now. Believe it or not, I don't actually think Calvin Murphy's promiscuous behavior will aid the Rockets in this series.

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azulAg said:

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lets be honest both teams and fan bases should just keep quiet, because as of last night the Warriors will beat either of them like a redheaded stepchild!!!

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Gregg Papivich said:

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More hall of famer smack??? when even the GPFOAT isn't in yet... poor hermanita houston is trying so hard to be Relevant when compared Papi San Antonio

I'd kill myself if I was a houston fan

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Guitarsoup said:

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Houston has much better food than SA.

Houston also has more green space. Dying the river doesn't count as green space.

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UMichAg said:

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"Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing."

Actually that's not what that means as playoff series are not 1 game series. If you're going to talk smack, at least use logic.

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primomosquito said:

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UMichAg said:

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"Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing."

Actually that's not what that means as playoff series are not 1 game series. If you're going to talk smack, at least use logic.

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You're right. Although Spurs have managed to win some series games, they haven't managed to win a series. Oops.

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David_Puddy said:

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primomosquito said:

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UMichAg said:

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"Rockets have won 60% of playoff games vs. Spurs (12-8). This means that 60% of the time they meet in the playoffs, the Spurs have a 0% chance of advancing."

Actually that's not what that means as playoff series are not 1 game series. If you're going to talk smack, at least use logic.

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You're right. Although Spurs have managed to win some series games, they haven't managed to win a series. Oops.

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Yes, they haven't won a series predating the best player to ever wear a Spurs uniform. Congrats on those 1980, 81, and 95 series wins! Well earned!

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HossAg said:

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I wonder how many times azulAg can manage to be wrong on one page

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aggie7911 said:

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Move those goalposts!

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Gregg Papivich said:

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More hall of famer smack??? when even the GPFOAT isn't in yet... poor hermanita houston is trying so hard to be Relevant when compared Papi San Antonio

I'd kill myself if I was a houston fanWh

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HossAg said:

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I wonder how many times azulAg can manage to be wrong on one page

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