Balogun is back

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Wrong thread oop
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MookieBlaylock said:

another win for the Texas Hammer

Good one
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wangus12 said:

Lol the internet is melting down over this. Again, FIFA does whatever it wants. They "suspended" Ronaldo's 3 match ban prior to the World Cup so he could play. They've done this before. They'll continue to do it as long as it benefits them.

This isn't some 1 off thing because of Trump or American politics. Its FIFA doing FIFA **** as always


If they corrected a grave injustice like that on their own accord then they get a blue star from me for actually having integrity and correcting an error. It's the opposite of corrupt to me.

Maybe they're trying to overhaul their image by doing the right thing?
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Hardcore Greg said:

wangus12 said:

Lol the internet is melting down over this. Again, FIFA does whatever it wants. They "suspended" Ronaldo's 3 match ban prior to the World Cup so he could play. They've done this before. They'll continue to do it as long as it benefits them.

This isn't some 1 off thing because of Trump or American politics. Its FIFA doing FIFA **** as always


If they corrected a grave injustice like that on their own accord then they get a blue star from me for actually having integrity and correcting an error. It's the opposite of corrupt to me.

Maybe they're trying to overhaul their image by doing the right thing?


I want to believe this is true. But then I look at FIFA and their history…
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I hope Trev Alberts is paying attention.Competing at the elite level of any high-stakes sport is, and always has been, full-spectrum warfare. (You'd better believe every other D1 program within 300 miles has been doing far worse for decades...) Kudos to Trump for, consistent with the rest of his 47 mindset, saying f the pearl clutchers and pressing the matter.
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The amount of TDS/orange man bad posts on this thread is hilarious.

The Swiss calling for a forfeit is apex beta ***** move too.

Cry harder & go USA!
TO THE DROP ZONE!!!
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I find it odd that the only group that is raging the most about this decision, besides the Belgiums understandably, is England. Think their insane media is whipping the populace into a complete frenzy.
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Spore Ag said:

I find it odd that the only group that is raging the most about this decision, besides the Belgiums understandably, is England. Think their insane media is whipping the populace into a complete frenzy.


Well, they are dealing with their own VAR review resulting in a red card, so maybe they need to focus some efforts on their own team and players.
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Belgium is officially appealing the ruling.
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Spore Ag said:

I find it odd that the only group that is raging the most about this decision, besides the Belgiums understandably, is England. Think their insane media is whipping the populace into a complete frenzy.

Yeah, they are losing it. I listen to an Arsenal guy every morning on my way to work. He spent like 2 minutes on the England win and quadruple that on Balogun.

If FIFA had just admitted that they were overturning the red card for improper VAR protocol, there would have been far less backlash. Instead, the optics are way, way worse because it looks like (and probably is) massive corruption and interference between FIFA and US gov.
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Spore Ag said:

I find it odd that the only group that is raging the most about this decision, besides the Belgiums understandably, is England. Think their insane media is whipping the populace into a complete frenzy.

It's called pen1s envy. And the English have in droves against Americans.
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PJYoung said:

Belgium is officially appealing the ruling.


Which is ironic, since we weren't given the opportunity to appeal the original decision
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This is all so stupid.

1. Should a red card been given originally? Maybe. But, because the precedent was already set of not issuing a red card for similar fouls during this world cup- no, probably not
2. Should var have reviewed it? I mean, thats their job. Did they use still shots and slo mos? If so, they broke their own rules to impact the game
3. If fifa officials clearly broke its own rules to retroactively punish a player or team, shouldn't it be expected they would correct their mistake? I'd ****ing hope so

Notice, I'm not suggesting the referees judgment or opinion be overturned. **** happens, deal with it. But, if they clearly broke their own rules to arrive at a judgment, I'd hope that is overturned for any player then unjustly punished.
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Spore Ag said:

I find it odd that the only group that is raging the most about this decision, besides the Belgiums understandably, is England. Think their insane media is whipping the populace into a complete frenzy.


It's not. It's the top story of L'Equipe. It's on the front of Der Spiegel in Germany. But no doubt we are probably mostly exposed to English media over others'.
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Thunder18 said:

PJYoung said:

Belgium is officially appealing the ruling.


Which is ironic, since we weren't given the opportunity to appeal the original decision


I just read the article in the NY Times. They have been granted the right to appeal. Both parties: US and Belgium have until 5 am PST to submit statements.

This is honestly crap.

I don't care which way it turns out, but I will say I hope this is a massive distraction to Belgium so much so that we destroy them on the field.

I've never witnessed a soccer power so f'ing scared of playing the US at full strength in my life. And before anyone says they are not scared, then why are they pressing this so hard?
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Belgium should go find the retired lawyer who granted Brandon Sorsby's temporary injunction to do the same for Belgium's appeal.
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UEFA speaking about the integrity of the game ranks right up there with the SEC worried about Sorsby, in my opinion.

I agree that the optics are crap, saying it's a suspension of the punishment rather than the punishment being rescinded for incorrect application of the rules.

At this point, I almost hope there's no Flo and we absolutely stomp the crap out of them.
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Yeah, the proper response from Belgium should be "f*** it, let him play. We don't want any excuses when we beat them."

Sissies.
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Honestly, since we had been practicing with an alternative plan prior to this announcement, I'd be inclined to stick with that plan and just use Balo as a super sub, if needed.
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When Balogun scores, will he do the Trump dance that Pulisic did a couple months ago? That would push this over the top.
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Balogun already was suspended from playing for 30+ mins in the 2nd half of the Bosnia game. The USA played with only 10 men. So, there was already a semi-punishment for the red card.

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FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.
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Aston94 said:

FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.

I agree. Forcing a team for play the remainder of the game with 10 players is quite an immediate punishment. They should have a way to appeal the further 1 game suspension for cases when the red card was a bad call.
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deadbq03 said:

Honestly, since we had been practicing with an alternative plan prior to this announcement, I'd be inclined to stick with that plan and just use Balo as a super sub, if needed.


This might be a worse take than those complaining about the suspension being lifted. Sit your best goal scorer? Really? And 4 people starred it.
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Aston94 said:

FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.

if both the US and Portugal win today, the media's comparisons and contrasts of the CR7 and Balogun situations will be interesting to read.
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Houston Lee said:

Aston94 said:

FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.

I agree. Forcing a team for play the remainder of the game with 10 players is quite an immediate punishment. They should have a way to appeal the further 1 game suspension for cases when the red card was a bad call.


There should probably be an automatic appeal granted for any red card incident during tournaments like the world cup.
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tysker said:

Aston94 said:

FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.

if both the US and Portugal win today, the media's comparisons and contrasts of the CR7 and Balogun situations will be interesting to read.
Caicedo and Otamendi also had their red card suspensions waived for game one of this tournament.

The big difference is this being done mid-tournament. Announcing a waiver months in advance doesn't impact their opponent's' preparation at all.

Announcing this 2 days before a match isn't very sporting. We'd be absolutely livid if the shoe were on the other foot.
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I find this whole thing fascinating, wspecially how Balogun is now some kind of superman who is "clearly our best player"
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Is Balogun like Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland or Kane? What makes them have to change their gameplan? If anything now they know what they face from earlier games instead of not knowing who will play there
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JJxvi said:

I find this whole thing fascinating, wspecially how Balogun is now some kind of superman who is "clearly our best player"

Is he super human? No. Is he better than the alternatives? The coach clearly thinks so since he's starting...
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JJxvi said:

Is Balogun like Messi, Ronaldo, Haaland or Kane? What makes them have to change their gameplan? If anything now they know what they face from earlier games instead of not knowing who will play there


It's just an excuse. Here is the thing about soccer. You have to play your game, not the opponent's game. When you start full game planning around a single player, you risk losing. And I agree with you, the film on Balogun and how he works with other teammates is out there. No reason to throw this level of temper tantrum.
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deadbq03 said:

tysker said:

Aston94 said:

FIFA is absolutely the most corrupt body in the world…followed closely by UEFA. So a player not having to sit an extra game because of an obviously terrible call is the "red line"? Not the 15,000 people who died making stadiums for WC 2022, not all the bribes and kick backs taken by soccer officials over the years, not CR7 getting the same treatment for this WC, this is the red line?

FIFA needs a formal appeal process for red cards, but because they don't have one it leads to crap like this.

if both the US and Portugal win today, the media's comparisons and contrasts of the CR7 and Balogun situations will be interesting to read.

Caicedo and Otamendi also had their red card suspensions waived for game one of this tournament.

The big difference is this being done mid-tournament. Announcing a waiver months in advance doesn't impact their opponent's' preparation at all.

Announcing this 2 days before a match isn't very sporting. We'd be absolutely livid if the shoe were on the other foot.

I think that's a fair take. But I also believe the drop from Balogun to Pepi is significant. It matters because of our lack of depth at the 9.

Take England, for example; Mexico had to prepare for both Gordon and Rashford. But the drop in quality is much smaller, so you can prepare for both strategically.

In our case, neither Pepi or Wright can do what Flo can do.
 
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