Right next to this one.

Skubalon said:

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Right next to this one.

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I'm sorry you don't get or understand supply and demand

Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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Right next to this one.

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I'm sorry you don't get or understand supply and demand

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In my 25 years of observing messageboard posts/threads, this has to be the most bizarre anthill one is willing to die on.

Overpaying a coach flex. You be you, boo-boo.

Bigballin said:

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Yeah, all of these high end recruits just automatically start playing great together. All of these top 5 recruiting classes translate to conference championships, playoff berths, and national championships regardless of the coach, right?

Some really stupid sh*t being spewed here

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Jimbo and his #1 class and $75M says hello...

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Mississippi State (5-7) finished tied for 13th place in the SEC

they beat Arizona State (8-4) who finished tied for 4th place in the BDF

that tells you all you need to know

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Stop with the transitive property. It doesn't work, especially with week 1 and 2 games.

ASU @ MSU was week 2 and ASU lost the game on a last minute, blown coverage.

Tech played @ ASU with not only the starting QB out, but the star DL just got injured the week before. ASU had this game circled on their calendar since last year (this their words, not mine). They put all their chips into winning this one game.

So, no, it doesn't tell you all you need to know. You're leaving out some key details.

In 2008, Tech nearly lost to Nevada in week 2 and then went on to a 10-win season with wins over (#1) UT and (#8) OSU. Tech had climbed to #2 at one point before getting beat by OU. But they were a hair away from losing to Nevada (on the road).

2010 Tech blew out KSU @ KSU. KSU had blown out A&M. A&M then blows out Tech. So enough with this transitive property BS.

And last but certainly not least....

2025 Florida (4-8, 2-6) beat UT who beat A&M soundly. Based on your logic above, does that tell me all that I need to know????

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A&M did not play KSU in 2010. In 2011, A&M be Tech 45-40, and lost to KSU 53-50.

Did you mean 2009?

Yes, 2009 was the A&M/Tech/KSU love triangle of blowouts

10/10 Tech beats KSU 66-14
10/17 KSU beats A&M 62-14
10/24 A&M beats Tech 52-30

Tech is in a bush league, plays no one, and has a small stadium. Let's see what happens when they play a good team on a neutral field.

Tramp96 said:

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Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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Right next to this one.

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I'm sorry you don't get or understand supply and demand

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In my 25 years of observing messageboard posts/threads, this has to be the most bizarre anthill one is willing to die on.

Overpaying a coach flex. You be you, boo-boo.

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Add another to the pile that doesn't understand supply and demand.

Coaches are paid what the market demands they are paid. No more no less. This topic is about why McGuire doesn't draw interest. Some tech idiot tries to use a new $7 million deal as some proof he's being taken care of. In one of the tightest and competitive coaching markets ever, if you got a coach maxing at $7 million it means nobody ****ing wanted him. That's what you don't get. And nobody wants him because they know full well why he's won this year and it has zero to do with his ability.

College football coaches aren't paid for wins. They are paid to either stay at your school or leave someone else's.

I think the future is funneling all money to NIL. Stop wasting time with high end staff and HS recruiting.

They've shown money can buy a playoff run and you can just buy the best players in the transfer portal.

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He told his agent to tell schools who reach out not to waste their time.

I know you all think so little of Tech, but the investment in the program is real and legitimate and is not just by a handful of boosters. It's a much better job than many of you give it credit for, and Tech is going to be well-positioned for the next round of realignment.

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Wrong. The next round of realignment will be a 40 team super conference. Tech will not be included. The lack of a media market and the bridges they have burned. The administrations in Austin, CS, and Norman will all be hard "No"s.

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dude. you're wrong. some of yall are going to be shocked when reality hits even though you get told time and again.

From the B12 days and the beginning of the massive shifts in realignment, I've always said I'd rather be a part of a mid-level major (B12) conference than stuck in the middle of a meat grinder conference like the SEC.

Since A&M left the B12, A&M has had (this year) 1 cfp appearance and 0 conf/nat championships.
Since A&M left the B12, TTU has had (this year) 1 cfp appearance, potentialy a conf champ, and 0 nat championships.

And going into the CFP this year, TTU/A&M both have about an = shot at winning the whole thing.

Teslag said:

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Tramp96 said:

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Skubalon said:

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Right next to this one.

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I'm sorry you don't get or understand supply and demand

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In my 25 years of observing messageboard posts/threads, this has to be the most bizarre anthill one is willing to die on.

Overpaying a coach flex. You be you, boo-boo.

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Add another to the pile that doesn't understand supply and demand.

Coaches are paid what the market demands they are paid. No more no less. This topic is about why McGuire doesn't draw interest. Some tech idiot tries to use a new $7 million deal as some proof he's being taken care of. In one of the tightest and competitive coaching markets ever, if you got a coach maxing at $7 million it means nobody ****ing wanted him. That's what you don't get. And nobody wants him because they know full well why he's won this year and it has zero to do with his ability.

College football coaches aren't paid for wins. They are paid to either stay at your school or leave someone else's.

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I do understand supply and demand...and it applies to the coordinator level and the GM position as well. I also understand incentivizing people.

Here's what Joey's contract does:
1. It's heavy on the incentivizing through big bonuses for success. Instead of paying him everything up front, it keeps the carrot in front in him so he doesn't Jimbo us.

2. It is structured to help boost the salaries of the coaching staff and the GM staff. I imagine we will be paying them above market level.

3. It is also structured to make sure NIL is also at or above market level.

This was a smart contract designed for both immediate and long-term success. Instead of throwing absurd amounts of money on the front end to the HC, it's strategically placing the money throughout the program to build, grow, and sustain the program.

I was surprised Penn State didn't kick the tires.

ironmanag said:

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I was surprised Penn State didn't kick the tires.

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I think Pedo is finding out just how deep the coffers are at other schools, and they are ****ting themselves.

ironmanag said:

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I was surprised Penn State didn't kick the tires.

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They may have for all we know.

But Joey has gone on record that he told his agent to tell everyone not to bother...he wasn't leaving Tech for any other job.

I'm sure that didn't please his agent at all. LOL.

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I think the future is funneling all money to NIL. Stop wasting time with high end staff and HS recruiting.

They've shown money can buy a playoff run and you can just buy the best players in the transfer portal.

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"Supply and demand":

Joey McGuire has no incentive to leave Texas Tech because they are playing a Big 12 schedule and flush with a boatload of NIL money.

I'm of two minds on McGuire-

-On one hand, Tech was pretty unremarkable in his first few seasons before turning on the NIL firehose
-On the other hand, there have been plenty of teams who dropped a load of money on a roster and didn't end up with a lot of wins to show for it. At the very least, he and his staff did a good job evaluating the talent available and hit big on the guys they decided to invest in. That, plus he seems to have a functional locker room, which is also a concern when you're going portal-heavy.

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I'm of two minds on McGuire-

-On one hand, Tech was pretty unremarkable in his first few seasons before turning on the NIL firehose
-On the other hand, there have been plenty of teams who dropped a load of money on a roster and didn't end up with a lot of wins to show for it. At the very least, he and his staff did a good job evaluating the talent available and hit big on the guys they decided to invest in. That, plus he seems to have a functional locker room, which is also a concern when you're going portal-heavy.

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If you saw our roster his first three seasons, and the multiple QB injuries each and every season, then you would realize he actually did a pretty remarkable job. Winning record every year, both overall and in conference. Has won 2 of 3 bowl games (last year we had 3rd stringers playing and no OC or DC).

2022: 8-5 (beat UT and OU in the same year for the first time...ever)
2023: 7-6 (we were already on our 3rd string QB by early October)
2024: 8-5

Not great, but compared to where we were, a marked improvement. 2022 was the first year we had a winning conference record since 2009 (Mike Leach's last year).

Also of note: we have first year OC and DC this year as well.

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This. High School Joey is not getting serious offers because he's the weakest link. The money they have been throwing around explains why they get commits without the player having even seen the campus. Tech is irrelevant because they have no following and even in the best season of their history, no one is watching their games.

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Ok, who here thought Tech would be 11-1 and outside of one terrible game, beating the crap out of every team they play? How many blue blood teams have managed their resources and talent better than Tech? Certainly not UT, LSU, FLA, PSU.....

I've watched several Tech games and they look as good as their ranking. HC deserves most of the credit.

how many blue bloods or helmet schools has Tech beaten this year?

the answer ---> zero

HC is at his dream job. He's not leaving.

You can't possibly say that when they have played zero teams with a pulse save BYU

Skubalon said:

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GenZagain said:

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I think the future is funneling all money to NIL. Stop wasting time with high end staff and HS recruiting.

They've shown money can buy a playoff run and you can just buy the best players in the transfer portal.

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"Supply and demand":

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2nd NIL spending for the 19th ranked class to edge out BYU

https://247sports.com/season/2026-football/compositeteamrankings/

You guys are killing it. Bravo.

Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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GenZagain said:

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I think the future is funneling all money to NIL. Stop wasting time with high end staff and HS recruiting.

They've shown money can buy a playoff run and you can just buy the best players in the transfer portal.

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"Supply and demand":

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2nd NIL spending for the 19th ranked class to edge out BYU

https://247sports.com/season/2026-football/compositeteamrankings/

You guys are killing it. Bravo.

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You really don't understand how this works at all, do you?

The numbers in that chart were from the NIL spend in the portal last spring, in which Tech had what many consider to be the number 1 portal class in the nation.

The #19 rank was from the recruiting class that signed today and is entirely unrelated to the chart above.

And yes, being the #4 ranked team in the nation, I would say we are killing it.

You'd do well to not lecture people. It makes you look like a smooth brained person.

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You can't possibly say that when they have played zero teams with a pulse save BYU

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Tech is 3-0 against currently ranked teams which is the best among all teams in the top 25. Tech curb stomped BYU, Utah and Houston. If you insist on degrading Tech's team, take it up with AP voters, coaches poll voters, FPI, SP+, Sagarin, and the CFP committee. They all seem to think this is a pretty good team.

Skubalon said:

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Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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GenZagain said:

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I think the future is funneling all money to NIL. Stop wasting time with high end staff and HS recruiting.

They've shown money can buy a playoff run and you can just buy the best players in the transfer portal.

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"Supply and demand":

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2nd NIL spending for the 19th ranked class to edge out BYU

https://247sports.com/season/2026-football/compositeteamrankings/

You guys are killing it. Bravo.

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You really don't understand how this works at all, do you?

The numbers in that chart were from the NIL spend in the portal last spring, in which Tech had what many consider to be the number 1 portal class in the nation.

The #19 rank was from the recruiting class that signed today and is entirely unrelated to the chart above.

And yes, being the #4 ranked team in the nation, I would say we are killing it.

You'd do well to not lecture people. It makes you look like a smooth brained person.

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Everyone knows why you're ranked 4. Same reason your coach doesn't get any interest.

Skubalon said:

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You can't possibly say that when they have played zero teams with a pulse save BYU

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Tech is 3-0 against currently ranked teams which is the best among all teams in the top 25. Tech curb stomped BYU, Utah and Houston. If you insist on degrading Tech's team, take it up with AP voters, coaches poll voters, FPI, SP+, Sagarin, and the CFP committee. They all seem to think this is a pretty good team.

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They also thought TCU was a good team until they played Georgia. Every year they latch on to some G5/Big12 type team and try to pretend they are actually good despite lack of any competition.


This year it's Tech.

it's all gonna play out, regardless.
chill out, grab a nice beverage, and just enjoy the show.

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it's all gonna play out, regardless.
chill out, grab a nice beverage, and just enjoy the show.

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They can't. First good team in years and they have to come to our board bleeding and begging for validation.

He can sell the kool-aide.He is NOT running the X's and O's, he was never even a coordinator at the HS level, at Baylor his position coaching assignment was different every year. He is a recruiter and can talk on tv, if he leaves the state of Texas he gets exposed.

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it's all gonna play out, regardless.
chill out, grab a nice beverage, and just enjoy the show.

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agreed, I watched that lubbock team play a couple of times this year and they looked good, especially impressed with DL and LB play along with quickness on offense.

I hate them, but thought they looked like a tough team to play.

lol some folks get lucky in life but your true

He's at cedar hill right when the demographics change and talent begins to roll in - rides that success to Baylor - his hire screams someone else is operating in the shadows and he allows that to happen

They just signed a 5star olineman. 3 years, 5.1 million guaranteed. I wouldn't leave that job either.