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I read they were going to fire him if this season had been a bust, and target USC's Lincoln Riley who is a Tech grad and played QB there.

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Absolutely not true.

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Why wouldn't it be true? Lol. Why would they not want Lincoln Riley? Lmao

Kind of funny watching the Tech-dorks defend Tech here. Texas Tech is for the people who couldn't get into North Texas somehow. Do not let this trigger you, lil guys.

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Tramp96 said:

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Ag1188 said:

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I read they were going to fire him if this season had been a bust, and target USC's Lincoln Riley who is a Tech grad and played QB there.

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Absolutely not true.

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Why wouldn't it be true? Lol. Why would they not want Lincoln Riley? Lmao

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Because Joey, the AD, the President, the Chancellor, and all the big money Double Eagle guys and other big boosters are all in alignment and have been since they set this plan in motion over a year ago. They were all in agreement on the strategy.

When asked this summer about the expectations for Joey, ALL of them said there was no new/additional pressure on Joey and everyone was rowing in the same direction.

And by complete alignment, that meant we would prioritize our resources towards the linemen, specifically the DL (though OL as well). They wanted to replicate what the Philadelphia Eagles did to Kansas City in the Super Bowl....smother the opposing offense with a killer DL and then have top shelf LB's and secondary bat cleanup.

That is Joey's philosophy, has been since he arrived at Tech, and the boosters got on board with HIS philosophy. Defense first, OL second, skill players third.

Lincoln Riley would never have gone that route. He would have gone with the KC approach, not the Philly approach.

And we are all loving having a dominant defense. It's way more fun. Defense travels. Defense isn't nearly affected by adverse weather. Defense wins championships.

We like defense (now). No offense, Mike Leach (rip).

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He told his agent to tell schools who reach out not to waste their time.

I know you all think so little of Tech, but the investment in the program is real and legitimate and is not just by a handful of boosters. It's a much better job than many of you give it credit for, and Tech is going to be well-positioned for the next round of realignment.

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Being the big fish in a little pond has advantages Ask OU!!!

Yeah, no. Tech's head coach ain't anything special whatsoever. They'd take Lincoln Riley in a heartbeat had this season been a bust. And I was quoting a reputable publicized source (didn't save the source bc I didn't think someone would really try telling me they wouldn't want Lincoln Riley if Joey sucked again).

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Yeah, no. Tech's head coach ain't anything special whatsoever. They'd take Lincoln Riley in a heartbeat had this season been a bust. And I was quoting a reputable publicized source (didn't save the source bc I didn't think someone would really try telling me they wouldn't want Lincoln Riley if Joey sucked again).

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In this modern era of "media" (i.e. randos tweeting crap), I question your reputable publicized source vs. my level 1 and level 2 information.

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Kind of funny watching the Tech-dorks defend Tech here. Texas Tech is for the people who couldn't get into North Texas somehow. Do not let this trigger you, lil guys.

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Took four edits to type three sentences while throwing shade on a Tech education.

How long did you have to hang at Blinn before you got in to A&M?

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Teslag said:

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TellMeMore said:

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This board belittles Texas Tech every chance they get. The money they have is serious. They will be fine when things get realigned. The pockets are deep. And even Lubbock can be an OK place if the money is right. Who knows we may see the Red Raiders up close before this season is over.

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They bring absolutely nothing to the SEC or the Big. They'll be left out.

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You know how long Tech fans have been hearing this same chorus from the same crowd?

Tech had to fight just to become a university - Texas and A&M didn't want it. Tech had to fight its way into the SWC. Texas and A&M weren't in favor. Tech had to fight its way into the Big 12 when the SWC died, forced on to Texas and A&M by a well-placed Tech alum as Lt. Governor. Always a fight.

All the time, we heard the same things. Too remote. Can't compete. Not enough money. Not enough resources. Not enough interest. All the time, Tech was fighting the likes of A&M and Texas in the legislature. Tech, a public university of the great state of Texas, owned and funded by the people of Texas, is still held out by Texas and A&M from access to the PUF. And yet Tech has grown, despite the PUF being funded by mineral rights, some of which sit underneath property owned by Texas Tech.

All this time we've heard this story. It never stops. Eventually, A&M left. Then Texas left. And finally, at last, it seems that the nail has been driven into the coffin of Tech's relevance, only ever buoyed by the generosity of Texas and A&M that so graciously allowed poor little Tech the privilege of tagging along and playing a sport on the same field as those magnanimous, all-powerful schools.

Finally Tech had been discarded. At last. Doomed to the BDF.

Yet here we are.

Texas enters the season as the national #1 with gawd-almighty-himself at quarterback. Texas A&M, after 12 seasons of trying, puts together a historic season leading to the pinnacle of SEC success, only to be foiled by a rival they tried to leave.

And then there's Tech. Yes, playing for its first ever Big 12 championship, only because the powers that be have finally moved on out of their generosity and boredom.

And then there's Tech. The top ranked team in the state, playing for a probable bye as a top four team in the nation going into the playoffs, while big brother UT is preparing for the Pop Tarts Bowl and big brother A&M is waiting to see how the championship games play out and pining for a favorable first round game.

Yes. We've heard this chorus before.

Tech is irrelevant. Keep telling yourself that.

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Skubalon:
With such an impressive list, supra, of grievances against Texas A&M University, how did you forget A&M fighting to keep Tech from getting a Vet School (a.k.a. College/School of Veterinary Medicine)?! And ;your School of Veterinary Medicine, not only got off the ground, it just received accreditation (see infra) - congratulations!

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Texas Tech vet school earns full accreditation
Amarillo Globe-News Oct 22, 2025

The Texas Tech University School of Veterinary Medicine has earned full accreditation from the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Council on Education, capping a decade-long effort to expand access to veterinary education and strengthen rural communities across Texas.

The announcement was made Oct. 21 before a packed assembly of students, educators, staff and dignitaries inside the school's Amarillo campus. The crowd erupted in cheers as the milestone was read aloud, celebrating the moment Texas Tech officially became one of only 31 fully accredited veterinary schools in the United States.

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https://www.amarillo.com/story/news/2025/10/22/texas-tech-vet-school-earns-full-national-accreditation/86834818007/

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Skubalon:
With such an impressive list, supra, of grievances against Texas A&M University, how did you forget A&M fighting to keep Tech from getting a Vet School (a.k.a. College/School of Veterinary Medicine)?! And ;your School of Veterinary Medicine, not only got off the ground, it just received accreditation (see infra) - congratulations!

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I don't know much about anything. Ask my teenagers. But my understanding, which may be wrong, is that Tech fought off A&M getting a law school and A&M fought off Tech getting a vet school, and that somewhere along the way an agreement was made that enabled both things to happen. Maybe that's not right, but that's the talk track at least.

Regardless of the circumstance, the state of Texas is better served by its universities for both of those things to have happened. So hey. Win-win.

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This board belittles Texas Tech every chance they get. The money they have is serious. They will be fine when things get realigned. The pockets are deep. And even Lubbock can be an OK place if the money is right. Who knows we may see the Red Raiders up close before this season is over.

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I'm not sure why some Ags feel the need to run down Tech's campus, academics, student body and football/athletic program.

With that said, Mike Leach put Texas Tech's football program on the map. People who had never heard of Texas Tech, much less the TTU football program, were watching Tech football games on tv and loving it - because it was fun! At the beginning of the Leach era, people on this board were quoted as saying that some of TTU's football players were good at the collegiate level but would never play a single down of professional football.

For the record, Texas Tech has had 179 players Drafted (with the caveat that a player drafted in multiple Drafts will be listed multiple times).

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/texastech/drafted.htm

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TellMeMore said:

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This board belittles Texas Tech every chance they get. The money they have is serious. They will be fine when things get realigned. The pockets are deep. And even Lubbock can be an OK place if the money is right. Who knows we may see the Red Raiders up close before this season is over.

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I'm not sure why some Ags feel the need to run down Tech's campus, academics, student body and football/athletic program.

With that said, Mike Leach put Texas Tech's football program on the map. People who had never heard of Texas Tech, much less the TTU football program, were watching Tech football games on tv and loving it - because it was fun! At the beginning of the Leach era, people on this board were quoted as saying that some of TTU's football players were good at the collegiate level but would never play a single down of professional football.

For the record, Texas Tech has had 179 players Drafted (with the caveat that a player drafted in multiple Drafts will be listed multiple times).

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/texastech/drafted.htm

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I don't have an axe to grind. One of my kiddos went to Tech, I enjoyed being in town and on campus. That said, Tech fans are worse than having swamp-butt at Disney World.

Whats his annual contract pay?? Money seems to talk to these NCAA coaches.

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Because Joey, the AD, the President, the Chancellor, and all the big money Double Eagle guys and other big boosters are all in alignment and have been since they set this plan in motion over a year ago. They were all in agreement on the strategy.

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fwiw: If I was Tech, I'd lean wholeheartedly into the West Texas Crazy Rich Oilman thing.

Billy Bob Thornton in Landman. Play the villain. "you're damn right we bought 'em" etc etc.

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Looking at the list of jobs that were open and his name never came up in serious ways tells you how committed to Tech he is.

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Is that what it tells me? I think it may tell me other schools don't respect what he is doing because of how easy it appears to be.

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Tramp96 said:

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Because Joey, the AD, the President, the Chancellor, and all the big money Double Eagle guys and other big boosters are all in alignment and have been since they set this plan in motion over a year ago. They were all in agreement on the strategy.

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fwiw: If I was Tech, I'd lean wholeheartedly into the West Texas Crazy Rich Oilman thing.

Billy Bob Thornton in Landman. Play the villain. "you're damn right we bought 'em" etc etc.

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I kind of think we already are, to some extent.

They put up a large pump jack on the west side outside the stadium this year. We already had a small one outside the east side. I think they are embracing it lock, stock, and barrel.

https://www.fox34.com/2025/12/02/joey-mcguire-agrees-new-7-year-deal-with-texas-tech/

McGuire signed a new deal with Tech today.

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Tech is not 11-1 because of his coaching

people know that

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Ding ding ding

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https://www.fox34.com/2025/12/02/joey-mcguire-agrees-new-7-year-deal-with-texas-tech/

McGuire signed a new deal with Tech today.

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$7 whole million dollars a year? Well that's definitely a coach in demand.

Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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https://www.fox34.com/2025/12/02/joey-mcguire-agrees-new-7-year-deal-with-texas-tech/

McGuire signed a new deal with Tech today.

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$7 whole million dollars a year? Well that's definitely a coach in demand.

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Plus bonuses that can make the 7 million much higher. Smart on Tech not to give away the farm, unlike what the Aggies have done in years past and what LSU is currently doing.

Every coach with a top 20 gig has "significant bonuses". He got $7 million average because that's what he's worth.

It has nothing to do with being smart and everything to do with supply and demand.

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https://www.fox34.com/2025/12/02/joey-mcguire-agrees-new-7-year-deal-with-texas-tech/

McGuire signed a new deal with Tech today.

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$7 whole million dollars a year? Well that's definitely a coach in demand.

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That's what Elko is making in 2025.

It's in line with what Brent Venables at OU makes. Same with Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame.

It's right in line with what A&M pays Jimbo to not coach A&M.

You must be a riot at parties.

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Every coach with a top 20 gig has "significant bonuses". He got $7 million average because that's what he's worth.

It has nothing to do with being smart and everything to do with supply and demand.

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So A&M giving Jimbo 84 million dollar contract was supply and demand. LSU paying nearly 144 million for 2 coaches is supply and demand.

Skubalon said:

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Skubalon said:

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https://www.fox34.com/2025/12/02/joey-mcguire-agrees-new-7-year-deal-with-texas-tech/

McGuire signed a new deal with Tech today.

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$7 whole million dollars a year? Well that's definitely a coach in demand.

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That's what Elko is making in 2025.

It's in line with what Brent Venables at OU makes. Same with Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame.

It's right in line with what A&M pays Jimbo to not coach A&M.

You must be a riot at parties.

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Elko now makes $11.5 million. That was less than what Penn State offered him.

Psycho Bunny said:

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Teslag said:

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Every coach with a top 20 gig has "significant bonuses". He got $7 million average because that's what he's worth.

It has nothing to do with being smart and everything to do with supply and demand.

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So A&M giving Jimbo 84 million dollar contract was supply and demand. LSU paying nearly 144 million for 2 coaches is supply and demand.

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Yes. It is.

A&M paid Jimbo what they did because LSU dictated the terms. That's how markets are set.

LSU paid Kiffen what they did because what's what he demanded with multiple buyers (Florida - Ole Miss).

Coaching salaries are dictated by what competing offers are. That's why Joey only got $7 million.

Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

Skubalon said:

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Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

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No im flexing because our coach has offers that push his market value to $11.5 million.


Yours doesn't.

Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

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No im flexing because our coach has offers that push his market value to $11.5 million.


Yours doesn't.

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Good luck on the coaches market value trophy at the end of the season.....

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Teslag said:

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Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

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No im flexing because our coach has offers that push his market value to $11.5 million.


Yours doesn't.

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Good luck on the coaches market value trophy at the end of the season.....

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Good luck when you're bounced out of the playoff in the first game when you play your first real team.

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I think you guys are overestimating how important tech is to ncaaf. They don't bring enough eyeballs to truly be that important. And nothing matters more than that.

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horsecrap! what matters to viewers is how good they think a team is. This is a national sports market now- not regional.

Viewership is based on rankings- the perception of who the best teams are.

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It's hard to determine how tceh ranks with viewership considering no one cares about the b12.

Texas at Ohio State: 16.6 million
Georgia at Tennessee: 12.6 million
Notre Dame at Miami: 10.8 million
Alabama at Florida State: 10.7 million
Oklahoma at Alabama: 10.48 million
LSU at Clemson: 10.45 million
Texas at Georgia: 10.43 million
Alabama at Georgia: 10.42 million
Ole Miss at Georgia: 9.8 million
Michigan at Oklahoma: 9.7 million

Oklahoma vs. Texas (Oct. 11, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 8.7 million
Oregon at Penn State (Sept. 27, 7:30 p.m. ET, NBC) 8.5 million (including Peacock)
Tennessee at Alabama (Oct. 18, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 8 million
Alabama at South Carolina (Oct. 25, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 7.8 million
Florida vs. Georgia (Nov. 1, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 7.8 million
Florida at LSU (Sept. 13, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 7.6 million
LSU at Alabama (Nov. 8, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 7.5 million
Penn State at Ohio State (Nov. 1, Noon ET, FOX) 7.2 million
Alabama at Missouri (Oct. 11, Noon ET, ABC) 7 million
Texas A&M at LSU (Oct. 25, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 6.8 million
Georgia at Auburn (Oct. 11, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 6.7 million
LSU at Ole Miss (Sept. 27, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 6.69 million
Ole Miss at Oklahoma (Oct. 25, Noon ET, ABC) 6.6 million
Florida at Miami (Sept. 20, 7:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 6.5 million
Vanderbilt at Alabama (Oct. 4, 3:30 p.m. ET, ABC) 6.4 million

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Teslag said:

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Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

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No im flexing because our coach has offers that push his market value to $11.5 million.


Yours doesn't.

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Good luck on the coaches market value trophy at the end of the season.....

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Right... I'm sure if Joey McGuire happens to win the National Championship, Tech will show him lots of love.

So instead of throwing the money at him now, show us what you can do, then we will open the check book.

Instead you got schools like, LSU, A&M who are throwing stupid money away without anything to show for it.

Psycho Bunny said:

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Raiderjay said:

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Teslag said:

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Skubalon said:

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Yay?

You're flexing because you pay your coach(es) more?

Hey, that's awesome. Good for the Aggies. I mean, you're paying apparently about $18.5 million a year for head football coaches.

Congrats.

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No im flexing because our coach has offers that push his market value to $11.5 million.


Yours doesn't.

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Good luck on the coaches market value trophy at the end of the season.....

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Right... I'm sure if Joey McGuire happens to win the National Championship, Tech will show him lots of love.

So instead of throwing the money at him now, show us what you can do, then we will open the check book.

Instead you got schools like, LSU, A&M who are throwing stupid money away without anything to show for it.

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Again. That's not how it works or will ever work. If another school approached McGuire with an $11 million offer that's what he would make, at either tech or the offering school.

If LSU could pry Kiffen away from Ole Miss for $5 million he would be making $5 million.

According to this link, there are a total of 9 coaches making more than $10 million a year. So it's not like it's a common thing. More than half of them won't make the CFP this year. One of them has already been fired.

In fact, 17 of the top 25 won't be in the playoffs, and that number might go up.

Your notion of coaching success being somehow tied to salary is.... novel.

Hard to argue with Joey McGuire's success this year... Tech is a 13+ point favorite to win the Big 12, and with a win Saturday will secure a bye and the #4 ranking in the nation. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Seems to me that Tech has been prudent and wise in its hiring and spend, ranging from coaching salaries to NIL budget to facilities. But I reckon you disagree. Honestly, I'm totally good with that.

https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/coach

Again, tech isn't being "prudent". They are paying the market rate for Joey ****ing McGuire.

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Again, tech isn't being "prudent". They are paying the market rate for Joey ****ing McGuire.

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Okay.

Skubalon said:

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Teslag said:

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Again, tech isn't being "prudent". They are paying the market rate for Joey ****ing McGuire.

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Okay.

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Hang the banner for that