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TAMU Faculty Member Slams Fisher in Letter to Editor

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What most people have lost in what Jimbo did, his actions were not actions out of anger. If they were, then he would deserve a lecturing about anger issues.

What Jimbo actually did was try to keep his team out of a fight, penalties, ejections, and suspensions. He first tried yelling at his players, but when he saw that was not getting the attention of Dobson, he had to resort to breaking the kids focus on the opposing player who was being provacative by breaking his focus. If you review the play/moment, he didn't jerk the face mask up and down/side to side in a way that would hurt Dodson. Yes, he grabbed his face mask, but it wasn't a violent, angry shaking. It was more of a "look at my face" and read my lips, cut this crap out or you're gone from the game.

Just my interpretation.

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bert harbinson said:

Bill Superman said:


And what is this shoving an assistant all about? Until we hear complaints from an assistant this is a nonstory.


I'm guessing it's when Jimbo was letting the official have it after the touchback ruling in the Clemson game. An assistant came over to pull him back and Jimbo flung his arm to get away from the assistant and I think he said "get the F off of me"

I thought it was pretty funny.
I think there was a thing that happened in spring practice that was misconstrued IIRC. It was, ironically, the type of thing that nobody would even know about unless they are themselves obsessing over the program on message boards.
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Farmer @ Johnsongrass, TX said:

I don't know this fellow. I just want to read his old yearbooks.

Here you go, from the 1960 Aggieland (He would have known my dad, who is C Armor class of 58)

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ABATTBQ87
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1959-60 CO of C-1

94chem
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Bob Harris said:

This is a 53-year teacher who is really pissed that a football coach is making $7.5 million a year while he's driving a 17-year-old Datsun.
17 year old Datsun doesn't exist.

But Jimbo Fisher does drive a 21 year old Dodson.
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94chem said:

Bob Harris said:

This is a 53-year teacher who is really pissed that a football coach is making $7.5 million a year while he's driving a 17-year-old Datsun.
17 year old Datsun doesn't exist.
Whoa. No wonder he's pissed.


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I had Dr. Leunes for 3 or 4 classes and I enjoyed all of them.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion but his seems ill-informed at best.
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So tired of this b.s. story... Fisher was simply getting the attention of someone whose emotions were getting the better of him and threatening to hurt the team.
This is the best characterization of the incident I have read, and perfectly describes what occurred. Kudos!
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peace said:

If the prof feels so strongly and led to act on his evaluation of Jimbo, he should have written his concerns to the AD and copied the University administration. A letter to the editor or op-ed was way out of line.
X 1,000
BoerneGator
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The fact that he was the CO of his outfit is impressive, and a positive indicator. That he was a PE major turned college professor is less so. Still, 53 years in academia explains a lot. He's prolly one of the more pleasant of his peers, who mostly believe he didn't go far enough.
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Politely get ****ed Arnold
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TMartin said:

I see where Arnold is a psychologist so perhaps he knows Christine Blasey Ford. Other than that there are ALWAYS faculty members that believe the head football coach is overpaid and that money should go into academics (salaries).
Yea, he read all the Dr. Spock books!
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Bayside Tiger Ag said:

Nvm. Since when did Austin start moving to College Station?
Quite a while ago, not much difference in the students, and we have little boy cheerleaders who have routines now, might as well be t.u on the Brazos!
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94chem said:

Bob Harris said:

This is a 53-year teacher who is really pissed that a football coach is making $7.5 million a year while he's driving a 17-year-old Datsun.
17 year old Datsun doesn't exist.

But Jimbo Fisher does drive a 21 year old Dodson.
I drove a Datsun 280 Z in 1977, was I driving an imaginary car!
BoerneGator
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aeon-ag said:

94chem said:

Bob Harris said:

This is a 53-year teacher who is really pissed that a football coach is making $7.5 million a year while he's driving a 17-year-old Datsun.
17 year old Datsun doesn't exist.

But Jimbo Fisher does drive a 21 year old Dodson.
I drove a Datsun 280 Z in 1977, was I driving an imaginary car!
And I had a '68 Datsun 1600, forerunner to the 240Z.

I think what he inartfully said is that they quit making Datsun more than 17 years ago. Ergo, any remaining Datsuns on the road are "more than" 17 years old.
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thebaldone said:

Mr Luenes and his wife are good people. They are also both bleeding liberals. The letter represents a fringe element of our society that happens to be very vocal (and incorrect).
oxymoron much?
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He wrote it better than most. Normally the academics think coaches are going to Hell. He seems as though he simply wants to make sure we don't turn into FSU (or Baylor) and I can appreciate that.
I took Psychology of Sport with Dr. Leunes many, many moons ago. Had Dat and some other players as classmates.

I don't agree with his need to write the letter, but I trust he is sincere. He's a serious sports enthusiast and scholar, not the standard Faculty Senate activist. I think you're probably right.

He was a great teacher, btw.
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The prof is wrong with regard to Fisher and Dodson. End of story.

I have no real knowledge of what went on at FSU under Fisher. The prof probably doesn't either.

Agree that I'd like to see A&M win clean but the truth is a bunch of 17-22 yr old football players are probably going to get into some trouble no matter where they attend school.
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53-year faculty member

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Dude. Retire.
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Long story short that's why Arnold doesn't coach football
-OCHWFLAKASSBRTTEFE-
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Positives from this Letter:
  • Leunes signed his name and is willing to own his statement rather than slinking behind a keyboard

Negatives from this letter:
  • "Fisher's troubled (and troubling) tenure" - this is the first I've heard of Jimbo having a troubled tenure
  • "captured on television pushing and shoving assistant coaches and/or other team personnel" - this is the first I've heard of Jimbo pushing/shoving assistants, etc.
  • "missteps have gone viral to tens of thousands of television viewers" - technically can't go viral on TV, the TV broadcasters go off the deep end with outrage. Going viral on twitter/youtube/etc is silly. anybody with half a brain can see Jimbo is getting the boy's attention and helping guide him to correct behavior
  • "might not have to endure 10 more years of this boorish, mind-boggling misbehavior" - Leunes doesn't have to endure anything--he is welcome to not watch the Aggies, and is also welcome to find another school/institution that will have him
  • "53-year faculty member" - this alone could make one Boorish
  • "decade-long history of coddling an assortment of sex offenders, felons, miscreants and ne'er-do-wells" - this doesn't seem correct. The only player that was in serious trouble was Jameis and there was not enough evidence to convict him. The bigger problem of this statement is to besmirch the reputation of Texas A&M by referring to supposed acts of Jimbo at FSU which Leunes is off base on.
  • Arrest rate of Texas A&M under sumlin was higher than Jimbo at FSU--seems like we have an improvement there? I don't for a minute believe Jimbo is encouraging reckless behavior, but actually the opposite--moreso than Sumlin
  • "Winning coaches often are given a behavioral and ethical blank check" - I would not tolerate, nor do I believe the Aggie faithful would tolerate a coach that knowingly supported bad behavior the way Briles did at baylor--no matter his pedigree or results.

All-in-all, was a dumb letter to write and does more damage to our school and our coach's reputation than anything possible good that was intended.

Time for Leunes to step down.
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DBAP
Tom Hagen
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Someone needs to change Arnold's diaper.
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Dr.HeadCase said:

Does he not realize that during Sumlin's tenure we were one of the leaders in the number of player arrests?

Know how I know you didn't bother reading his entire letter? No wonder you did so ****ty in his class.
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I wish A&M didn't employ snowflakes.
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The pussification of America is nurtured well in academia. Is there anything redeeming or inspiring among university faculty anymore? The fact that the faculty peers of the racist prof at A&M haven't shunned him and run him out is telling.
always gig em
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has anybody asked what this guy's husband thinks about all this?
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So we're #3 in arrests, got concerned, fired the current guy and hired a guy who guided a prison farm all the way down to number #10. Upgrade! Texas A&M cares.
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We were 3rd in arrests over a 10-year period and hired the coach who was 10th? Sounds like we moved the ball in the right direction there. Point is moot.
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Sounds like someone is pissed their salary is $74,999,999.99 or less.
88jrt06
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Exactly.
Where's Chuck Schumer, coughing up our trophy!?

Oh, meeting w/Weiner to celebrate his shortened sentence!
You know, the NY pedo married to Hillary's bestie forever...
Guess he promised not to send his undie bulge to kids, uh ANYMORE!
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PISS OFF!
http://linkedin.com/in/chadjhudson
Free Lunch
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This is complete and utter bull*****. This stupid senile out of touch mother ****er needs to hear it from us.. Anyone got an email address we can pound?
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Well. Class of '60 also!!-=Do Not Agree with assement of Jimbo!!! He has a purpose, goal
And a "tough love" method. What was your philosophical analysis of Kevin Sumlin???
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