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Nothing has changed: Steve Spurrier is new OC

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8. Spav would be gone. He gone.


Actually you said that Spav would stay on in a lesser role, but who needs facts right??
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I don't think I need inside info to be pretty confident that if Sumlin doesn't hire a good OC and things don't improve drastically next fall he's gone. Just sayin
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The future is known; it is only the past which is uncertain.
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So Rojo you're still sticking to your guns that Sumlim will not coach the Ags during the 2016 season? You also say we are searching for an OC? Why would we be searching for an OC if Sumlins departure is imminent? I'm not mocking you I'm just curious.


There is still a battle raging. Neither side has surrendered.

If Sumlin hires a marquee OC, he's safe from certain BMAs for a while.

If he hires yesterday's news as an OC, he gone in a year . Such would also be evidence of his weakened standing among coaches and football, and it's tough to sell recruits on rethreaded coaches.

As Billy said, "If".....


So it's set in stone he is here at least until next year?


That's how I'm reading it too.
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^ fishing you still just don't get it...
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Sheep again. lol. You guys would follow him over a cliff, as most of you should. How long is staff going to keep this guy up. He's been proven fos but continues.

Man I wish I was in sales and had this group of followers. I could sell you people used underwear and tell you they are just worn in

People it's still sh*t stains. Cut this guy off and chill out. Love the bs about I enjoy the entertainment." You feed off hoping he's got news. He's just sensationalizing bs news.

Followers gotta folkow. It's embarrassing to watch. Aggies should know better. Both sides!!
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AggieRojo -

I've been following this all along but I'm lost now. I'm in between things at work and just glanced at recent posts, but I fail to understand the logic here.

I understand there is still a battle in terms of firing Sumlin now. Obviously if that happens then the next issue is moot. But, if Sumlin does not get fired and Sumlin hires a retread as OC or not a "big name" then you say he is gone in a year. I can't understand this. What do you mean? After the 2016 season? IF, he is going to be fired AFTER the 2016 season IF he hires somebody other than a big name OC, then why wait? IF he hires somebody that isn't a big name, then why not just fire him immediately? What would be the point to waiting a year? In reality, if this is the case, I fail to see how his non-sexy hire would be allowed in the first place. IF he tries to hire somebody that is not a big name, why wouldn't those in power just veto his selection and fire him?

Also any word on the timing? Each day this drags on hurts our already slim chances of landing a QB and hanging on to this average recruiting class. Since we ALL knew this was coming for a long time, I have to assume the replacement is right around the corner.
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Yep, that is funny. I hate it when I fat finger. Fixed it.

Rojo likes golf, lives in CS, knows BMAs , and is a FATTY.
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#teamROJO
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So Rojo you're still sticking to your guns that Sumlim will not coach the Ags during the 2016 season? You also say we are searching for an OC? Why would we be searching for an OC if Sumlins departure is imminent? I'm not mocking you I'm just curious.


There is still a battle raging. Neither side has surrendered.

If Sumlin hires a marquee OC, he's safe from certain BMAs for a while.

If he hires yesterday's news as an OC, he gone in a year. Such would also be evidence of his weakened standing among coaches and football, and it's tough to sell recruits on rethreaded coaches.

As Billy said, "If".....
The real question is, who exactly constitutes a marquee hire at this point that is actually attainable?

Lots of names floating around, almost all make me say, "meh".
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What I enjoy about this site and posters such as Rojo is piecing together various nuggets, comparing them and coming to my own conclusions. I think most people on this site have the capability to discern whats seems plausible and what doesn't, but it requires some effort. However, what i detest about this site is the few posters who berate and belittle posters who share information just to make themselves look smarter and superior. Some complain that no info is given on this site and when info is actually communicated it results in character assassination. There actually may be more posters of good information who will not share it because of the backlash of posters.


This would be more believable if it was simply "oh Rojo was just coming to a plausible conclusion based on various pieces of Intel." However this was not the case in the least bit.
In case some posters have forgotten, Rojo stated unequivocally several times that Spurrier was a "done deal." He doubled down when people doubted him. He has spent weeks, literally, claiming it was true despite evidence to the contrary. Now that he is backsliding people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on some KM tidbit? Please.
He and his shtick are harmful to our school. Sorry if you can't see the forest for the trees.
I don't know if he is correct or not. Thats not the point. Its the personal attacks that bring this site down. Such as calling people clowns and such. Just don't know why you and others feel it necessary to level personal attacks instead of just disagreeing and pointing out inconsistencies. Calling someone names does nothing to discredit the poster and help A&M. All it does is drag the whole conversation down. SO you can disagree with me and that is fine, but just because I have differing view than you does not mean you have a monopoly on the forest.
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Sheep again. lol. You guys would follow him over a cliff, as most of you should. How long is staff going to keep this guy up. He's been proven fos but continues.

Man I wish I was in sales and had this group of followers. I could sell you people used underwear and tell you they are just worn in

People it's still sh*t stains. Cut this guy off and chill out. Love the bs about I enjoy the entertainment." You feed off hoping he's got news. He's just sensationalizing bs news.

Followers gotta folkow. It's embarrassing to watch. Aggies should know better. Both sides!
Sweet irony.
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Please staff. Ban me. I'll miss all the rojo threads. Lol. Actually I need a break from the morons. Obviously it irritates me to see you all follow this clown. I've lost my respect so I need a break. Hey enjoy the circus. His news letter will be out shortly. You all deserve what your getting.


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Geez dude stop taking this **** so seriously. Sounds like you are about to have a heart attack or something.
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Sheep again. lol. You guys would follow him over a cliff, as most of you should. How long is staff going to keep this guy up. He's been proven fos but continues.

Man I wish I was in sales and had this group of followers. I could sell you people used underwear and tell you they are just worn in

People it's still sh*t stains. Cut this guy off and chill out. Love the bs about I enjoy the entertainment." You feed off hoping he's got news. He's just sensationalizing bs news.

Followers gotta folkow. It's embarrassing to watch. Aggies should know better. Both sides!!
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Please staff. Ban me. I'll miss all the rojo threads. Lol. Actually I need a break from the morons. Obviously it irritates me to see you all follow this clown. I've lost my respect so I need a break. Hey enjoy the circus. His news letter will be out shortly. You all deserve what your getting.

Please staff, ban him.
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So Rojo you're still sticking to your guns that Sumlim will not coach the Ags during the 2016 season? You also say we are searching for an OC? Why would we be searching for an OC if Sumlins departure is imminent? I'm not mocking you I'm just curious.


There is still a battle raging. Neither side has surrendered.

If Sumlin hires a marquee OC, he's safe from certain BMAs for a while.

If he hires yesterday's news as an OC, he gone in a year . Such would also be evidence of his weakened standing among coaches and football, and it's tough to sell recruits on rethreaded coaches.

As Billy said, "If".....


So it's set in stone he is here at least until next year?


That's how I'm reading it too.


My apologies. The "If" on the last line is, "If Sumlin is still here." I was referring back to a Liucci quote posted earlier.

Obviously, if a strictly OC type of coach is hired (either a Bling hire or a dud) - Sumlin is still here next year.

"IF" that happens first.

To FishinAggie: stalking again? Love you!
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Sheep again. lol. You guys would follow him over a cliff, as most of you should. How long is staff going to keep this guy up. He's been proven fos but continues.

Man I wish I was in sales and had this group of followers. I could sell you people used underwear and tell you they are just worn in

People it's still sh*t stains. Cut this guy off and chill out. Love the bs about I enjoy the entertainment." You feed off hoping he's got news. He's just sensationalizing bs news.

Followers gotta folkow. It's embarrassing to watch. Aggies should know better. Both sides!!
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Please staff. Ban me. I'll miss all the rojo threads. Lol. Actually I need a break from the morons. Obviously it irritates me to see you all follow this clown. I've lost my respect so I need a break. Hey enjoy the circus. His news letter will be out shortly. You all deserve what your getting.

You've been more obsessed with AggieRojo than the purported "sheep" that follows him.

But you fail to see that because you have such a hard-on about being able to say "I told ya so!!".
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Sometimes I wish TexAgs was like GroupMe, where anyone can remove participants from the conversation.
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FishingAggie...

ignatiusreilly2...

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So IF Sumlin is retained and makes a dud OC hire, he won't be back for 2017.
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Rojo,

So what you're saying is if we hire an OC, Sumlin stays, but it still isn't a given that he'll be able to do that?
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Not sure why people get so bent out of shape over rumors on this site... true or not. Unless these rumors are affecting a gambling addiction you have and your making bad bets based on AggieRojo's information, chill the f*** out. And if you are making bets based on AR's info, get some therapy. AR's info is fun to read... it absolutely makes no difference if its true or not.... atleast to me.

On a side note, we need to hire Spav again so we can fire him again.
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He hurts our recruiting.

If one recruit. Just one. Sees him posting sumlin leaving. Turmoil between bma's. All the crap he posts( and others). We might lose a good kid. Just one recruit.

All this is on Google. You guys know that right
You think the other schools aren't using these rumors to recruit?? Really.

But you say, " no one reads the zoo". You are.

It shows up everywhere.
One lost recruit is NOT worth this. you don't have to know information before it happens to survive. We do need recruits to survive.

You empower this behavior. It's not good for the program. If you disagree its your choice. Anyone can justify anything. Entertainment should NOT do possible damage to our university. That's my problem with all this.
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Rojo,

So what you're saying is if we hire an OC, Sumlin stays, but it still isn't a given that he'll be able to do that?


Correct. If Sumlin hires a rethread (like Strong did) he's gone next year if the Aggies aren't in Atlanta playing for the SEC title. Given a dud, we won't be close to Atlanta.

As I stated before - the BMAs want Championships not participation bowls. $700 million investment changes things....
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Hey enjoy the circus. His news letter will be out shortly. You all deserve what your getting.
* you're
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He hurts our recruiting.


Losing hurts our recruiting. Losing 2 5* QBs during the season hurts our recruiting. News that Sumlin is pimping himself to the NFL hurts our recruiting.

If those 3 don't exist, Rojo threads don't exist.
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Rojo,

So what you're saying is if we hire an OC, Sumlin stays, but it still isn't a given that he'll be able to do that?


Correct. If Sumlin hires a rethread (like Strong did) he's gone next year if the Aggies aren't in Atlanta playing for the SEC title. Given a dud, we won't be close to Atlanta.

As I stated before - the BMAs want Championships not participation bowls. $700 million investment changes things....
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this is getting tiresome.

Now for the real news: as soon as they win the SuperBowl, Kubiak will become offensive coordinator and Manning will be the qb coach. Mack Brown is in line to be recruiting coordinator. His wife was in CS this weekend looking for suitable housing. A friend who is a realtor showed her a couple of houses and she asked for some cards to give to Kubiak and Manning.

You know it's true; it was on the internet
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He hurts our recruiting.

If one recruit. Just one. Sees him posting sumlin leaving. Turmoil between bma's. All the crap he posts( and others). We might lose a good kid. Just one recruit.

All this is on Google. You guys know that right
You think the other schools aren't using these rumors to recruit?? Really.

But you say, " no one reads the zoo". You are.

It shows up everywhere.
One lost recruit is NOT worth this. you don't have to know information before it happens to survive. We do need recruits to survive.

You empower this behavior. It's not good for the program. If you disagree its your choice. Anyone can justify anything. Entertainment should NOT do possible damage to our university. That's my problem with all this.

This response should have been your first response.

Please accept my respectful internet handshake and head nod.
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He hurts our recruiting.

If one recruit. Just one. Sees him posting sumlin leaving. Turmoil between bma's. All the crap he posts( and others). We might lose a good kid. Just one recruit.

All this is on Google. You guys know that right
You think the other schools aren't using these rumors to recruit?? Really.

But you say, " no one reads the zoo". You are.

It shows up everywhere.
One lost recruit is NOT worth this. you don't have to know information before it happens to survive. We do need recruits to survive.

You empower this behavior. It's not good for the program. If you disagree its your choice. Anyone can justify anything. Entertainment should NOT do possible damage to our university. That's my problem with all this.


Still stalking? Remember: click your high heels together and repeat 3 times, "there is no Rojo post!" and go down to the next entry.

You think a recruit being caught off guard and left in the dark is going to react kindly when he see's a sports reporter on TV, or reads their blog about reality.

Ever heard of a deniable heads up? A trial balloon? They work.

Reality. Deal with it. Not fairy tales.

Still stalking, FishingAggie? Just don't click on it.
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You guys win. Exercising my right to not click anymore.


Happy new year all. Even you Rojo. Don't hate you just don't like what you do in here.
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This is what I have called via friends in low places and what happened:

1. Bud Foster as DC. Bud was Sumlin's only target and was getting close to inking when Chavis called Sumlin and threw his hat in the ring.
1) You didn't call this first. I already posted the earlier source on this very thread. It happened nearly 2 weeks before you stated it as fact that Foster was the DC. (a fact that was wrong)
2) And Liucci has stated on several occassions that Durkin, Matteson, and Narduzzi were all in significant contact and close to agreeing to terms ahead of Foster. ( So "Bud was the only target" is another blatant lie) (See how wrong you were below)

Here's a direct quote from Looch during a Q&A earlier this year:
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Narduzzi was 12 hours from being on a plane with his wife to take the job in Aggieland before the head coaching jobs started to pop up. Had the stuff with Chief not come out of nowhere, the Ags would have hired Durkin.
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2. Chavis as DC and contract signed. I was the absolute first one to announce this. I only gave out the names of Sumlin's only two real, actual, DC targets. Chavis is DC.
You were only the first to post it to the zoo2.0. Upgrade to varsity and check out the 3-4 individuals who were documenting Chavis days before you.
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3. Daylon Mack committing. Most thought he was gone to t.u., friends whispered to me he had made a private commitment to Chief. Very, very few knew of the private commitment. Mack signs and acknowledges the private commitment.
4. Kyler Murray re-committing. One hour before it was public, me and another TexAgs poster let the site know he had recommitted. Kyler recommitted.
5. Kyler Murray signing. Most thought he was also gone to t.u. I guaranteed his commitment based on private info from low friends. Kyler signs.
This is all nonsense.
1) I've read your posts and you weren't doing anything but sunshine pumping and admitted to as much. You were pissed that a bunch of whiny ags were talking crap about Mack's dad and Murray that you wanted to do something to shut them up without further hindering our chances at re-capturing their commits.
2) For anyone else reading, ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT RECRUITS' DECISIONS. The fact that Rojo was stating them as objective facts, should lead you to question his credibility off the bat.
3) You never mentioned any specific names to go along with your "GREATEST CLASS EVER" prediction. So it's easy to fit the real life events into some vaguely constructed narrative you conjured up. (Something that you've done again which I'll get to later)
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6. Named five positions that would be surprises on signing day as they were private targets. Sumlin acknowledges all five private targets, 2 sign, 3 dont. Only a few knew of these private targets. The kids changed their minds at the last second. Boyd still regrets it.
What?! "Sumlin acknowledges all five private targets" WTF does that mean? Are you kidding? You were clearly predicting Holton Hill, Kris Boyd, and Kendall Sheffield. The 3 obvious targets that A&M was purported to lead or be in close consideration with. (So A) Not a surprise and B) The kids changed their minds...which means what in terms of your "prediction?")

So to recap: According to YOU, you said A&M would have the greatest class ever with signatures from 5 specific players. 2 of which you had obtained firsthand knowledge of their private commits (Kyler and Mack) while the other 3 were what? Just guesses?

There's just so much inconsistency and logical fallacies in your posts to take with any serious consideration of thought.
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7. NE 2nd Deck Stadium seating issues due to heigths. Even a guy involved in the construction said there was no problem and called me out on it. Architects had to re-address and redisgn the second deck to raise it.
Congrats? You work in construction, cool. This isn't some administrative secret that we should all be thanking you for.
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8. Spav would be gone. He gone.
I think LITERALLY EVERYONE knew this.
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9. Spurrier as OC. Position not filled - though a lot has changed since he and A&M were in discussions. Who knows, a lot of things are possible.
lol why is this on the list?
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10. Kyle Allen transferring. I did not know, and posted here that I knew nothing and it was a total surprise when i was being taunted about not knowing about it. When asked after my posts, Sumlin said it caught him off guard as a total surprise. Credibility is also judged by what one doesn't claim to know.
lol why is this also on the list?
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11. Kyler Murray transferring and meltdown. "...the other shoe to fall...". Kyler transferred. The shoe fell. Low friends gave me the heads up a few days before it was public.
Ahhh this is what I've been waiting for. I called you out on this the second you stated it. Another vague post that would settle nicely into any negative narrative that could occur between then and now.

You say you knew this was going to happen a few days before it was public and you posted the "shoe" message on 12/13..yet Kyler's dad didn't even meet with Sumlin until late PM on 12/15. Now, unless your source is Kevin Murray himself and he not only made up his mind about what his son was going to do, but that he also told your source....then there's absolutely no way you could have been referencing Kyler's tranfer in your post.
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12. "...for cause..." I was first to break that public. Now, many are echoing the issue. Yes, the fact of the matter is such is true. TBD.
1) You're taking credit for saying that the A&M boosters/Admin would weasel their way out of his contract rather than pay $20m within 30 days? Again, that's common sense and straight line thinking.
2) You were too busy pumping Spurrier as the OC to take any credit for insinuating Sumlin getting fired. (Btw, I posted that it would be tough for Spurrier to be the OC when A&M doesn't even have an HC on this very thread before any of this, so if anything y'all should be giving me credit)
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13. OC will not be Mazzone. A&M is targeting others.
1) No **** we're targeting others. Who in the hell pegs Mazzone as option 1? There's been numerous insiunations that Meachum was in talks and is clearly one of the most viable candidates.
2) Why is this on here? You said Spurrier is our OC? So it's fairly redundant to say Mazzone isn't, no? Unless you're admitting that it won't be Spurrier and now you're hitching your prediction to the infinite possibilities of "anyone other than Mazzone?" A savvy move that the lower IQs will gobble up. Nice work.
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14. Sumlin NFL contacts. Wasn't the first by any means, but friends are aware.
WTF does this mean?
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So, why the hate? Name one person who has been more accurate....Get a dog.
1) I don't hate you. I think you're a grand troll or a sad attention seeking person. Maybe both?
2) I can name half a dozen more credible/accurate source of Ags than you:
- FireAg (Called Chavis first)
- PantherAg (Terrific ties to East Texas coaches and recruits)
- Smokin Aces (Knows the current team. Accurately calls out practices, player suspensions, etc.)
- charpie (she has terrific ties to East Texas recruits and was the first to call Mack's commit)
- OA1 (Knows sharp)
- GEA (Knows TAs recruiting insiders)

/drops mic




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Rojo regurgitates information that is posted elsewhere. His post regarding Foster was 10 days after a user by the name of Yung Fits posted on a Hokie site:

12/9/2014
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Texas A&M, Auburn, and South Carolina have been in a bidding war with each other over the services of former Florida HC, Will Muschamp. The Aggies seemed to have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Muschamp, but to no avail. My sources have told me that A&M put Muschamp on a deadline and that deadline has passed. Which means they will move on to their #2...which brings us to Bud Foster.

Foster has been in talks with Texas A&M's AD and HC, Kevin Sumlin for sometime now; and in fact, I have it on good authority that Foster was the one who reached out to Sumlin first, and not the other way around. I can't 100% confirm the accuracy of this statement, but I feel as good about it as any preemptive information I've ever obtained, and that is:

It would appear, based on my sources, that Texas A&M and Bud Foster have reached a deal in principle.

Feel free to take this as you will, but I'm not trying to pump smoke or troll the board. Just thought I'd give the heads up for discussion.
He then proclaimed "the greatest recruiting class in A&M's history" after which he admitted to simply trying to pump the boards with positivity.

Bottom line: He throws **** on walls and takes credit for what sticks (chavis). That's it. It's all in good fun but I feel bad for some people that take his schtick seriously.
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2/4/2015
AggieRojo:
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Two weeks ago

-- Kyler Murry was "a lock to t.u.", and lot's of people were posting negative comments about him
-- Daylon Mack was "a lock to t.u." and lots of people were posting negative comments about him

Do you remember that? I didn't come here to "build up expectations". I came here to shut up the idiots that were sinking our chances of getting these two back and flipping back a couple of others.

 
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