I'm tired of people wishing we would play southern tunes. This is Texas. We don't need any of that confederacy crap.

The argument that we should play southern songs because we were once part of the Confederate states is stupid. If that's the case, are we going to also play Mexican, Spanish and French tunes at halftime?

If FTAB director absolutely refused to play any southern related march for a SEC game audience, perhaps it's time to appeal to the Hullabaloo Pep Band...
(that is, Hullabaloo playing outside the opponent's stadium or outside of Kyle Field).

P.S. Johnny...French National Defile is the best half-time march in the FTAB repertoire.

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So If we keep the USC game, should they play "California Girls" for them?

Cupid Shuffle when in Baton Rouge?

Why not just play, I don't know, call me crazy, the traditional FTAB songs that made them the "nationally famous..." ?

The A&M College was founded on martial principles. If you dont recall the first president, Lawerence Sullivan Ross, Soldier, Statesmen, Knightly Gentleman, Brigardier General CSA, President of the A&M College. CSA, Confederate States of America. The Corps stood on their chairs and sang Dixie every Wednesday night (steak night) at Duncan for many years. Revisionist history is a sad thing.

What's the revisionist history?

Master of Puppets!

Not necessarily referring to your comments but others who seem to think that the University and Texas have no connection to the South or the Confederacy. Clearly, both do.

Oldjohnny, the band has traditionally played Mexican(Zacatecas) and French (The French National Defile) tunes at halftime. I'm sure there are more examples. I wasn't a BQ, thankfully.

I was in the Cav and my favorite tunes to ride into Kyle Field were Garry Owen and The Yellow Rose of Texas. I think at least one time they did play the Bonnie Blue Flag as we rode in.

Probably shouldn't play Garry Owen since that is the tune of the 7th Cavalry and they killed alot of indians. Wouldn't want to offend.

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Like tbirdspur just said, "We're Texans," dammit. (Not speaking for tbirdspur, just echoing what I took from his comment.)

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That's exactly what I was hoping folks would take away from that. As a black man, there is much to be ashamed of when it comes to Texas' (and America's) racially charged history. But there's so much more to be proud of when it comes to this great state that has zero to do with the confederacy, and my wife (who is white) and I choose to focus on that.

Texas flag> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any cloth flown to represent the confederacy.

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EDIT: Hey tbirdspur2010, I just noticed that your occupation is "U.S. Air Force." Thank you for your service. Because of you and your colleagues, I'm able to sit and type this in peace. Thank you.

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You're very welcome--it's an honor and a privilege to be among the great Aggies and Americans who serve

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Why not just play, I don't know, call me crazy, the traditional FTAB songs that made them the "nationally famous..." ?

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Glory hallelujah, some one else gets it!

Texas, Our Texas.
Yellow Rose of Texas.

Bop with a 1957 post in a 2012 world

Texas was a member of the Confederacy as were almost all the states of the SEC. I think Missouri did not officially secede but was pretty evenly divided. So I think playing Dixie should at least be an option for the FTAB.

Perhaps the FTAB should consult with the other SEC School bands on the playing Dixie question. I am guessing most of them would not object to us playing Dixie if we choose to. If one or two object to playing Dixie we should honor their wishes.

We should act as both good host and guests.

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Bop, the irony is that FTAB could play BB Flag and never raise an eyebrow. But play Dixie and the howls begin. When, in reality, BB Flag has a martial theme with a direct link to the Confederacy and the Civil War while Dixie does not.

However, I think we do best with a pure Texas theme. All the southern states were Confederate, but Texas was an independent nation. Greater source of pride, in my book.

As far as no dry eyes in MS and AL... and LA, GA, SC and FL for that matter. I'd rather leave 'em crying over the score of the game than what the FTAB plays.

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Texas was one of the 13 States of the Confederacy. There are 13 stars on the Confederate Flag, and one of them represents Texas. The last battle of the Civil War was fought in Texas. Texas manufactured and shipped gunpowder to the rest of the Confederate States. I am not a racist, but I will not re-write history. Texas is as much of the deep South as the other southern states.

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Texas is as much of the deep South as the other southern states.

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Two words for you: So. What?

Yeah, TX was a confederate state. Quite frankly, it's regrettable. Being against the FTAB playing "Dixie" is not an attempt to rewrite history. The fact of the matter is, I believe Texas has more honorable stuff to hang its hat on than being on the wrong side of the Civil War.

Maybe we should just give Texas back to Mexico since a rabble of Kentuckians and Tennesseans occuping the sovereign territory of another country is not exactly "honorable" and I'm sure is "regrettable" by some. Anyone can be offended by anything if that is their penchant.

I'm with ya, Black Jack! Dixie is a great song about a great land. Society today has NO place condemning that culture.

If you could transport the old South into today's world, they would be horrified by the immorality and general disregard and intolerance that people have for each other.

It's usually those blaming the most that have the most to be ashamed of- i.e., the p.c. police.

60 Minutes: How are we going to get rid of racism?
Morgan Freeman: Stop talking about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ

Listen folks, the Civil War was fought about 150 years ago. Dixie is an old song that pays hommage to southern heritage and culture (which, like it or not, Texas is indeed a part of, despite our own unique culture we've groomed over many years). People say it's racist because people keep saying it's racist. We all need to listen to Mr. Freeman and just stop talking about it.

I'm not saying we should or have to play Dixie, but what I am saying is that there's not a good enough reason not to. And btw, if we did play it, it's not like it would be played every game. It would most likely sit on the repertoire and be used about once or twice a season (maybe more this season simply because it's our first in the SEC).

There are some of TexAgs dumbest on this thread. I never thought I'd see Bop outdone at his own game

My highschool played the Bonnie Blue Flag at our football games and it is a rousing tune with a good upbeat. I think it would be great for the FTAB to play it once in awhile.

Whoop-de-do:

Aggie Football is now officially a political forum.

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Gimme back my dog?

One of the most compelling and devastating scenes in any movie I've ever seen is from Little Big Man, and it features the song Garry Owen as U.S. cavalry slaughter NAm. women and children. This link plays the song in 1:56, split in half...Irish folk song, and military style. Worth a quick listen, especially the 2nd half:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKI4GQ4c9g0

"Lord, forgive Bop for he knoweth not what he hath created."

The Bonnie Blue Flag would still be most appropriate.
Opening line..."We are a band of brothers native to the soil..."

Im as conservative as the day is long...but this is by far my favorite march. Granted this version is the vocals, but so was the original When Johnny Comes Marching Home.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD0WVL-HjE

If that song doesnt put lead in your pencil, you are not a man.

Bill...
Great sound but as a march ? NO !!!

Sounds more like a great funeral dirge.

Where will FTABand travel this year?

It is an incredibly depressing song (esp when you look into the history) Its a song for a slow march of pulling boats...Ive heard it as a march and it is amazing. The constant percussion carries it although there is a question of balancing the overlapping instrumental voices.

I doubt the FTAB would ever play a Russian song (even though it predates the USSR by half a century)

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Bill...
Add an up beat march tempo and it might work.
Am sure there is other Russian martial music we've never heard.

As far as international, Bop likes WWII German marching song SCHONE WESTERWALD (and FTAB will certainly not touch it in a million years).

http://www.youtube.com/march?v=ky-zdHMNFNM

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The Gallant Seventh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZVLedst8yo&feature=related

If I ever strike it big, Im gonna commission some writers to compose some newer marches. When was the last time we actually had a wave of patriotic music created? The 1920s?

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Texas was one of the 13 States of the Confederacy. There are 13 stars on the Confederate Flag, and one of them represents Texas. The last battle of the Civil War was fought in Texas. Texas manufactured and shipped gunpowder to the rest of the Confederate States. I am not a racist, but I will not re-write history.

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No racism there, just stating facts. What's your point, though?

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Texas is as much of the deep South as the other southern states.

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What? Now that's one helluva leap. Again, what's your point? "Texas was a part of the Confederacy and therefore is still a part of the Deep South?" I disagree with that. Galveston have a very Southern feel to in, in some architecture and in societal structure. But then it's on an island off the coast of Texas, and is a little different than most anything I've seen and experienced on the mainland. The societal structure, attitudes and even the accents are different. Perhaps part of that significant differentiation is due to Texas being separated from the rest of the South by our neighbor Louisiana, which is perhaps the most unique and different of the 48 contiguous in culture, language, accents, dialects, food, hell, even topography.

My Point: All are welcome to their own opinion, and I do not consider myself Southern in the slightest, but I'm all Texan. I do not think and feel that Texas is Southern, or than I am a Southerner.

Go to Jefferson, Texas (you'll think you were in some part of Georgia).