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AggieOO
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crew and pacers. Crew will be: wife, sister-in-law, 2 x brother-in-law, and wife's sister's friend. Kyle (wife's brother) will pace from 50K to about mile 52, other brother-in-law (who paced me for 25 miles last year) will take me from 52-finish. Unfortunately, the wife ended up with walking pneumonia in december and is still getting over that, so she hasn't run in well over a month. She was originally supposed to pace the last part of the race.
aggiespartan
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You've got the whole crew! Anytime you say BIL I assume Kyle. If you do Cocodona 2025, I hope he's there.
AggieOO
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i'm sure he will be. dude is all in on everything trail/ultra running.

an 99 times out of 100, if i'm saying brother-in-law, its probably kyle. The other one is more of a road runner.
aggiespartan
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Tara Dower just posted a quick video of part of a training run at Black Canyon. It looks like it's going to get sloppy.
AggieOO
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i'm fully expecting a bunch of mud in the first ~20 miles. I got stuck in wave 3, probably due to my crappy time last year, so 600 runners will have already run the course before i get to any of that.

can't be any worse than the mud years i've done at bandera. that clay on the low sections just cakes on your shoes until they weight like 10lbs each.

edit: just saw the video...it actually doesn't look that bad, but who knows after hundreds of runners hit those trails. not supposed to be rain tomorrow, so that should help.
aggiespartan
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Yea, it doesn't look too bad now, but I was thinking about after people have sloshed through it. Maybe that desert dirt will dry out.
AggieOO
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Just drove past the start. Zero snow on the ground, but forecast is for 1-3 inches overnight. Course is definitely going to be muddy.

All the higher elevation are pure white.
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Good luck y'all. Have fun.
aggiespartan
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Good luck! I'll be watching the livestream!
AggieOO
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Thanks all!

Almost go time!
aggiespartan
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Just saw Black Canyon was delayed 2 hours because of snow accumulation last night and low temperatures.
AggieOO
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Literally just saw the message...after I/we started drinking caffeine. I'm up now.
aggiespartan
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AggieOO said:

Literally just saw the message...after I/we started drinking caffeine. I'm up now.
I saw it on the YouTube live feed. I was hoping to watch the start. Be careful on the roads!
AggieOO
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Best case scenario I'm looking at a 1030/11p finish time now. And if things don't go smoothly, much later. And it's a shuttle bus ride and the 1.5 drive back here after the race. That's what I'm mostly bummed about.
aggiespartan
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Looks like Hans got put in wave 3 too hope he was able to move up.

edit: I think he's in 1. I thought these times were in MST but it looks like they are in CST.

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Good luck! I'll be cheering for you while watching the live stream on my treadmill today!
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AggieOO said:

Best case scenario I'm looking at a 1030/11p finish time now. And if things don't go smoothly, much later. And it's a shuttle bus ride and the 1.5 drive back here after the race. That's what I'm mostly bummed about.
Welcome to the world of us slow people, although I didn't finish Bandera until 2:30. On the bright side, there's no traffic that late.
AggieOO
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last year was a late finish, so believe me, i know.

i was just looking forward to some post-race beers, but i think we'll all be wiped by the end of the race.

positive is that it will be slightly warmer at the start, so less layers i have to deal with at the start. negative is that i was looking forward to seeing more of the course in the daylight this year, but now its going to essentially be the same as last year.
aggiespartan
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The livestream says it still isn't starting for another hour. I hope everybody brought headlamps.
AggieOO
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ugh, i might be starting in the dark at this point.
aggiespartan
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I wonder who is going to benefit from the chaos and who is going to struggle now.
AggieOO
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sounds like the course is in pretty good condition, its just getting the shuttle busses to the start.
aggiespartan
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They just said the video was delayed because of snow and first wave is at 9:30.

late start was due to the protocol from the bus company. 2 waves now - 9:30 and 10
AggieOO
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Getting this info to the runners has not been great. You seem to have info before I do.
aggiespartan
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it's on the livestream.

They are having trouble with media at the start, but the announcers are at the finish.
AggieOO
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I'm not sitting at home in front of a computer. Cell reception isn't the greatest, so hard to get updates. Definitely can't watch the live stream.
aggiespartan
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wasn't sure about reception or where all your crew was. They haven't said much else except that the first 10 miles is probably going to be pretty sloppy.
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Hoka Rocky (rainy) 50K this morning. Pretty gnarly conditions for my first ultra. It rained for basically the first 15miles with some lengthy stretches of straight up down pour. Needless to say it was sloppy. I was in a pretty dark place for miles 18-29, but survived. I had set a goal of ~5hrs and was able to gut out 5:27 though my watch clocked the course .25mi short, which is a bummer. All-in-all very challenging effort for my first ultra but given the conditions, I'm relatively pleased.
aggiespartan
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Little concerned about OO. I think he's off pace from what he wanted. The second half is faster, so hopefully he settles in and finishes strong.
AggieOO
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I ended up way off pace, but finished. At mile 13, I started getting really dizzy. I honestly thought I was going to have to drop, but walked a huge section and forced myself to get to the 50k mark so I could pick up a pacer. Took until about mile 28 for the dizziness to subside. Battled stomach issues until about mile 45. Was finally able to pick it for the last 17, but that second half of the course is tough. All the climbing is in the second half and it gets much more technical. The mud for the first 8 miles was insane.

Got it done though so that's all that matters.
aggiespartan
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There were a lot of drops. Sounded like there were a lot of falls and rolled ankles.
Ragoo
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aggiespartan said:

There were a lot of drops. Sounded like there were a lot of falls and rolled ankles.
heather was running F1 with a pretty big lead and ended up dropping
aggiespartan
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Ragoo said:

aggiespartan said:

There were a lot of drops. Sounded like there were a lot of falls and rolled ankles.
heather was running F1 with a pretty big lead and ended up dropping
She finished 12th female at 9 hours 53 minutes according to the runner tracking. She just fell back quite a bit.
Ragoo
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Oh interesting. When I looked last night she showed scratched.
AggieOO
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Saw Hans Troyer ended up 10th, but was in 3rd through 60k. I think this kid has a very bright future. Seems to have his head on right and is very humble. I'm guessing there are some brands looking to pick him up.
 
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