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AggieOO
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I'm not sure what his plans are as far as when and how long he'll be there.

Logistically for me, it's super easy, but we'll see what I can pull off.

I know you are looking at bandera, but you should consider the black canyon double. A lot of cocodona runners do the 100k/60k on back to back days.
aggiespartan
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The 100k is already sold out for black canyon. I wanted to do another 100 in March sometime though. I'm also thinking about going to do some back to backs in Arkansas. I'm obviously still figuring out what the hell I'm doing, but I'm feeling good.
AggieOO
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Wish I could give you my spot for athens big fork, bc I'm not going to be able to go, once again. I don't think they allow transfers bc it's a no cost event anyway. It's only a marathon, but is like 7K feet of climb.

We aren't going to WI for the holidays, but of course K picked a tune up race that weekend for Sean Obrien. And she gets full priority for putting up with the rest of my year.
EdBos_Ag
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what time is it supposed to roll through?
aggiespartan
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Looking like pretty good weather for Dino Valley. I just saw that there's new parking this year and you have to be shuttled to the start. Don't be late!
Sweep4-2
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It does look nice, I'm looking forward to running (even though I'm only running the 25K). Two of my friends are running the 100K, so I may pace if they need it.

Are you running it this year?
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aggiespartan
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Nah. I did the 50k last year. Too many loops for the longer distances for me.
Sweep4-2
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Ok, so I ran the Dinosaur Valley 25K and managed to run well on what was a tougher than expected course. Won my AG and ran below 2:50 (my stretch goal, I'm old haha).

Had an absolute blast and am glad my ankles are still in one piece. There's some challenging terrain on that course.
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AggieOO
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congrats!
TRM
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Congrats!
AggieOO
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Been bad about posting new videos here, but here's our most recent update. We changed the format a bit.

drewbie08
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Pales to comparison to most posts on here, but I'm running a 10k trail run this Saturday in Tempe. I've done only one before and it was fun. I've been wanting to do a 25k but haven't been able to due to life (family, work, injuries). I'd like to do the Piney Woods one in September this year.
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Did the Dino 100k; way rockier than I I expected. Been battling injuries but finished in 13:58 which felt decent all things considered. Got pretty lucky with the weather - even if could have been a touch cooler!
AggieOO
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drewbie08 said:

Pales to comparison to most posts on here, but I'm running a 10k trail run this Saturday in Tempe. I've done only one before and it was fun. I've been wanting to do a 25k but haven't been able to due to life (family, work, injuries). I'd like to do the Piney Woods one in September this year.


That's why the thread is trail & ultra running, not the ultra thread. Doesn't have to be anything crazy.
Just enjoy time on the trails!
drewbie08
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That 10k was a lot of fun! After a mile I realized any target pace was out of the window. It was very hilly (for what I'm used to) with nearly 700' gain over the 6ish miles. Very rocky and I found myself staring way more intently on the ground in front of me compared to what I was used to. I didn't want to wipe out on the decents! The front two guys ran away from the field, so I ran the second half pretty much solo, which was nice to just hear the sound of my steps on the ground. Definitely more interested in a longer distance where I can settle into a more comfortable pace and not be redlining the whole time.
Turk Turkleton
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I know what you mean. As soon as I stop paying attention to every step, sure enough I'll roll an ankle.

Excited to be stateside this winter. Headed to northern Arkansas next week for my first ultra (35 mi) at the Spirit of Syllamo. There's always more I could have done to prepare (like more gym time) but I feel pretty ready!
AggieOO
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I've heard great things about Spirit of Syllamo! Its been on my "list" for a long time, but its never worked out to fit the schedule! Please report back!
Sweep4-2
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So I just registered for the Cody Peak 50K in Jackson Hole, Wyoming (July 2025). It looks pretty rough and is considerably more altitude/elevation than my previous 50K (Silverton Alpine), but I'm excited!

Anyone here run it? If so, any advice?
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AggieOO
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John Kelly was on The Tosh podcast this week. I've never listened to his podcast, but I know Tosh's style, so his style doesn't bother me, but I know there are those who aren't fans of Tosh. Regardless, it feels like Tosh generally is interested and impressed with Kelly. I found it an interesting listen.

aggiespartan
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Anybody headed to Brazos Bend this weekend? I'm heading over to Louisiana to pace Loup Garou.
aggiespartan
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Has anybody done the 3 days of Syllamo in March? Thinking about registering for it.
AggieOO
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aggiespartan said:

Has anybody done the 3 days of Syllamo in March? Thinking about registering for it.
almost did one year, but ended up not being able to go. it would be great training for cocodona.
Sweep4-2
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If I don't have anything going on, I may head out there on Saturday evening just to see what's going on.

I have an acquaintance attempting the 100K, but given the amount of training they've put in, I think they'll likely be a DNF before I leave to get out there.
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aggiespartan
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Squirrels nut butter discount Timberfriends (case sensitive) is 30% off for the rest of the year.
aggiespartan
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Paced 40 miles at Loup Garou yesterday/today. It was cold and muddy, but I managed to get my runner to a finish of 27:30. It was his first 100. That was good enough for a top 10 finish (only 11 runners completed). There were 18 DNFs. It was a lonely course. There was no leap frogging and aside from being passed by the winner, we saw no one else aside from the aid stations.

Two 15 year olds finished the course. It was a good time and my runner was very happy. Not many stories from this one because we saw so few people. Aid stations were great and finish line food was excellent.
aggiespartan
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OO, your shoe about to change. conversational pace
AggieOO
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Appreciate the heads up. Doesn't look too crazy, and mostly what it means is I'll get cheaper shoes for the next year+ while I buy all the stock of the "old" model.
Turk Turkleton
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Syllamo is looking like mid 40's and rain on Saturday. I've run through many monsoon seasons but those are always warm.

Anyone have advice for how to dress for cold rain?
aggiespartan
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I ran in cold rain Saturday night/Sunday. I ended up in just long sleeves and pants/tights. I warmed up while running too much for a rain jacket, although I did wear it for like 10 minutes. If it were a downpour, I probably would have kept the rain jacket on.
PaulDicton
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Nice
aggiespartan
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Turk Turkleton said:

Syllamo is looking like mid 40's and rain on Saturday. I've run through many monsoon seasons but those are always warm.

Anyone have advice for how to dress for cold rain?


How was it? I know a couple of people that DNF'd the 100. Looked like a tough course. A
AggieOO
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almost time for a 2025 thread. I guess I'll fire that up in the next day or so.

and quick little beer run in Pagosa from a few weeks ago.

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Enjoyed that video. Good playlist, and nice drone footage!
Turk Turkleton
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Personally, I had a blast! I met my goals and came away really pleased with how my body held up over 35 miles. I even felt like I had a little push in my the final 3 miles or so. I knew I could maintain the stamina needed but was concerned about muscular fatigue and cramping (not enough time in the weight room) but I was really happy with how it went. Honestly, running daily at 5000 ft in Nepal and then dropping down to 200 ft felt like I was just drinking in oxygen.

I thought the organizers did a good job. Being my first ultra, I don't have anything to compare to but I was happy with all the information leading up to the race, the enthusiasm brought by the organizers the morning of despite the rain starting at 5 minutes till start time and then the aid stations were pumping out great food and snacks and energy despite the rain as well.

It rained consistently the first 6 hours, which I'm sure played a big factor in only having 7 finishers of the 28 runners attempting the 100, but personally I really enjoyed the rain. I wasn't nearly as cold as expected, and it wasn't until about the 25th mile did I start noticing some areas getting a bit muddy, but the course is rocky enough that the mud was just in sporadic spots in which you had to watch your step as to not slip. It was never for long enough stretches that your shoes would bog down and collect weight. In the 35 mile course there were a few sections where the trail was covered in baseball sized rocks and maybe a more agile runner than myself could tip toe through those stretches but I would have rolled an ankle if I'd tried. I didn't particularly enjoy those sections, but other than that I really enjoyed the course and felt most of it was runnable otherwise. The 100 milers had to do the 35 mile loop the rest of us completed and then go for a long out and back which consisted in much more climbing. Only about 5k feet in the first 35 miles, another ~25k ish for the final 65+ miles.

Pre race, I had been dreading a creek crossing at mile 10 because I hate soggy socks but since it was raining at the start I figured it'd be a moot point anyways. But at mile 3, while still running in the dark, a group of about 10 of us managed to over shoot a turn by 10 feet and instead turned up a creek bed which then turned into a creek and before we knew it there were about a dozen of us trudging through this creek, water up to mid thighs, all of us way too confident to stop and say, "hey this doesn't seem right", before we see a couple headlamps passing us on the left bank, actually on the trail, where we should have been. We all got a good kick out of it though and had a good laugh. It definitely made the rain seem less impactful from that point forward.
AggieOO
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sounds like you had a great first trail/ultra experience!
 
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