Good work!

Hell yeah! Great job, man.

Is anyone at the Summit Backyard Ultra? I think it's down to two guys. A friend ended up doing 162.5 mi, she was the last female standing.

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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Hell yeah! Great job, man.

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thank you! Legs are paying for the effort today. Wowzer.

Also, I o ow you are in SA. Looks like there is another half in NB late January. Might be worth looking into. I will probably sign up.

https://www.athleteguild.com/event/new-braunfels-tx/2024-das-dreizehneins-131-half-marathon-and-5k

Damn, would've been a good warm up for the Austin half in February, but I work that weekend.

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Was able to do 3 miles without stopping this morning. For me this is game on now. Just have to manage my joints and keep cross training.

Just been needing to get my lungs to a point where I could manage a pace and slog through it. I'm slow as hell and that's annoying, but I'll figure it out

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Couple weeks after this I came down with a bad case of bronchitis. Took way too long to get over. Big setback but I got after it again this week. Did my own turkey trot this morning, walking about a quarter mile total out of 5k.

At this point I think going from couch to half marathon by cowtown will be extremely tough. Just gonna get in the best shape I can and hope I can along through it.

Been battling some knee pain the last couple of weeks. It's a generalized dull pain that appears to be on the outside of my right knee, to the right on my patellar tendon. Battles patellar tendinitis for years and it's a different pain from that.

Maybe IT band? If that's it, you can probably keep it from getting worse and moving up the leg if you just take a week or 2 off. You may be able to stationary bike without pain if you need to maintain fitness.

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Maybe IT band? If that's it, you can probably keep it from getting worse and moving up the leg if you just take a week or 2 off. You may be able to stationary bike without pain if you need to maintain fitness.

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I was thinking either IT band or meniscus. I took a week off but still started hurting about a mile in today. I really would like to maintain fitness so I'll try hopping on my rower since I don't have access to a stationary bike. I'm wondering if I went down a hill too quickly a couple weeks ago. It seems like that's when it all stated - on that run. Anyway, really appreciate the input.

How'd everyone's turkey trots go?

I was 2:21 slower than last year, but was still good enough for 3rd in my age group. Stupid leg cramp.

My 10-year old and I did a 10k turkey trot last Sunday. His first 10k, so it was a slower pace than his recent 5k times. He did finish second in his age group, though, and I finished third in mine. (And yes, I did stick with him the entire time.)

Injured my calf during marathon training - think its a calf strain. Still 80 days out so I have some time to heal if its minimal, but this is frustrating to say the least.

Any advice on dealing with an injury like this? Take a few weeks off? Taking a few weeks off to heal seems like it will set me back too much just ahead of my biggest training block weeks to still run this thing in february

Can't run a marathon if you physically can't run. Take at least a week or two off, but during that week or two, you should be hitting the bike, rower, or swimming. Anything that will allow you to maintain cardiovascular fitness.

Are you trying to do something like Boston Qualify or just run one as fast as you can?

This would be my first marathon - Austin marathon in february. Im in decent shape and have done a few halfs this year but im just trying to finish under 4 hours. Under 3:30 is the goal but this certainly sets me back.

I just dont want to injure myself further but i also dont want to drop and pick a different race

If you care/follow him, Nick Bare ran 2:39:20 in the CIM. That dude's a beast.

I follow the guy, but I kinda always just put an asterisk next to anything he does due to obviously being juiced to the gills, and I'm sure abusing EPO. It's an impressive time for a guy his size, but I don't really know how to put his achievements into perspective when he's clearly on PEDs.

It's one thing when I see someone like Kiptum or Kipchoge smashing WRs who are likely also abusing PEDs, but they are also clearly the best in the world among 100s of elite runner who also abuse PEDs. It's another when some random jacked YouTouber is putting up impressive, albeit non-elite times.

I could never match Kiptum or Kipchoge's times, no matter how long I've been training and amount of PEDs I used. However, I think I could maybe match Nick's time if I had endless free time, years of training, professional coaching, and rampant PED abuse.

Anyone run CIM? Had lots of friends running it and seemingly good weather because about 10 went sub 3.

Anybody know where to find running plans based on minutes rather than mileage?

Why do you think he's "clearly using PEDs"? He's good friends with Sally McRae and she uses his products. I'd be pretty surprised if she kept that kind of company.

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1:43:18, not too bad for my first half



Edit: Guess I forgot how to upload images

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Good job! I told you that you'd get under 1:45. And there's another 2 minutes waiting for you with a proper warmup.

I'd never heard of CIM, but then again, I didn't take up running until 6 years ago. I have business in Fresno. Maybe I'll try the half sometime.

Right now I'm training for the Texas Marathon on 1/1. I'll be running the half. I've likely retired from fulls. Got my sub-4 on the 7th try, and tired of the time suck, money suck, weather suck, etc.

Body composition is not attainable naturally, and he was much larger in his bodybuilding/powerlifting days prior to taking up endurance sports. He also had very questionable stretches of gains in the past that are not seen outside of those using. It's not really a question of if he is taking PEDs, he's on them. He also has all the incentive in the world to be on them. He's trying to sell people that taking his supplements will make them look and perform like him. Most fitness YouTube/Instagram/TikTok influencers are undoubtedly abusing, and why wouldn't they? They need to separate themselves from everyone else trying to make a buck.

Some things that should clue you in when following an influencer is if they are consistently maintaining sub 10% body fat while also maintaining large amounts of muscle, which is near impossible for more than a few months at most. Someone that has an FFMI (fat free mass index) greater than 25. Also, large, prominent deltoids and traps are much more common among steroid abusers.

https://www.8020endurance.com/product-category/running-plans/

This is what I am currently using for 50K training and have used in the past for both half and full marathons.

Joe Friel's plans are typically time based. I've used his plans for half and full IM training but for straight marathon training I follow the Hanson Method which is mileage based.

Congrats dude! That's a terrific pace.

I was out there pacing my best friend the first 11 miles in his full sun 4 attempt. When we split up I tried to turn the jets on as best I could to get under 2 for the half. Unfortunately, I came up short by 35 seconds.

Still, I'm pretty happy with that 6 months post liver surgery. My fitness has fallen quite a bit, but I routinely ran half's in the 2:12 range before I started taking running seriously. I consider my time a win.

Did a 10K on Saturday with my son (10 y/o). His second 10K, beat his prior time by 7 minutes. Some walk breaks which I let him dictate, but he figured out on his own to count down from 10 or 15, or to walk to the next sign, etc. He's signed up for the Houston half marathon with me, and is getting pretty excited about it.

Just got rejected, again, from Berlin. ****ing lotteries

Same. Hoping better luck tomorrow for Chicago.

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Just got rejected, again, from Berlin. ****ing lotteries

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Sorry man, especially sucks with the ones that don't have time entries that you can at least target.

Of course a friend of mine got in to both London and Berlin.

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Anyone run CIM? Had lots of friends running it and seemingly good weather because about 10 went sub 3.

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I ran it for the first time this year. Weather was almost ideal. The forecast said it would be cloudy all day and we ended up mostly sunny. But aside from that, it was great.

Wasn't selected for Chicago lottery entry. Looking for a large fall or winter marathon next year, thinking Houston or Dallas right now.

Ugh Rejected. Now 0/19 in lottery draws for the World Majors. 0/4 Chicago, 0/4 Berlin, 0/3 London, 0/8 NYC.