Absolutely. I run significantly slower times in warm weather compared to cooler temps. I used to freak out about slower paces in the summertime but not anymore. Inevitably in the fall when temps come down my faster paces return like clockwork. Embrace the heat and continue training and don't worry about the clock too much.

It was also smack in the middle of a training cycle so I'm not even close to fresh. Thanks for the feedback!

I'm confused, your time went down by 5 minutes and you think that is reducing fitness?

No I misspoke. I meant it got slower by 5 minutes lol

Just did 10 miles. It felt like 30 with this heat/humidity.

I had running injuries on November 5th and 17th, then a torn meniscus on February 1st this year. My surgery, a partial meniscectomy was on May 15th. I have been doing recovery work with P.T., walking, and strength training.

Has anyone else who is over 60 years old gone through this surgery and made a successful return to running? I am 70 years old with osteoarthritis in my knees and the surgeon told me that my knee looks good except for degeneration of the meniscus which led to the tear.

As I'm continuing to base build, I'm really working on my form, pushing my hips forward, and relaxing my lower legs. The improvements are very noticable. Faster times on less effort, and I finish my mileage feeling like I can do it all over again right away.

However, I noticed that it's much harder to relax my right leg than my left. It almost feels like there is a slight supination in it and the muscles stay more engaged. I don't know if it's just under powered compared to my left leg (dominant leg) or if there is something in my form that needs correcting.

Anyone had a similar issue and know how to go about finding the issue?

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I had running injuries on November 5th and 17th, then a torn meniscus on February 1st this year. My surgery, a partial meniscectomy was on May 15th. I have been doing recovery work with P.T., walking, and strength training.

Has anyone else who is over 60 years old gone through this surgery and made a successful return to running? I am 70 years old with osteoarthritis in my knees and the surgeon told me that my knee looks good except for degeneration of the meniscus which led to the tear.

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Not your situation but hopefully similar enough to provide a meaningful answer. Had an ACL tear and reconstruction surgery (cadaver graft; no meniscus damage) in 2018 at age 56. After 4 months of PT, resumed light running, then completed a half marathon at 8 months. It was hard work getting there, but I think the whole process helped me become a better and stronger runner. Six marathons and bunches of Halfs,10ks, etc since, and still going.

The first hurdle is mental, but it sounds like you've made the commitment. Hope your knee responds well and you can get back to doing what you want. Good luck!

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As I'm continuing to base build, I'm really working on my form, pushing my hips forward, and relaxing my lower legs. The improvements are very noticable. Faster times on less effort, and I finish my mileage feeling like I can do it all over again right away.

However, I noticed that it's much harder to relax my right leg than my left. It almost feels like there is a slight supination in it and the muscles stay more engaged. I don't know if it's just under powered compared to my left leg (dominant leg) or if there is something in my form that needs correcting.

Anyone had a similar issue and know how to go about finding the issue?

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If you do a pigeon stretch on both sides, do you find more resistance in your right or left? Your left side may be dominant but you still drive (presumably) with your right. I find I have a lot more tightness in my right side that originates from my driving habit/position. I had ongoing bouts with piriformis pain that was resolved through stretching and foam rolling/lacrosse ball targeting.

Beyond daily stretching, what does your pre-run warmup look like? Leg swings (fwd/bwd & side-to-side)? Walking lunges? Step-ups?

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Average Joe said:

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As I'm continuing to base build, I'm really working on my form, pushing my hips forward, and relaxing my lower legs. The improvements are very noticable. Faster times on less effort, and I finish my mileage feeling like I can do it all over again right away.

However, I noticed that it's much harder to relax my right leg than my left. It almost feels like there is a slight supination in it and the muscles stay more engaged. I don't know if it's just under powered compared to my left leg (dominant leg) or if there is something in my form that needs correcting.

Anyone had a similar issue and know how to go about finding the issue?

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If you do a pigeon stretch on both sides, do you find more resistance in your right or left? Your left side may be dominant but you still drive (presumably) with your right. I find I have a lot more tightness in my right side that originates from my driving habit/position. I had ongoing bouts with piriformis pain that was resolved through stretching and foam rolling/lacrosse ball targeting.

Beyond daily stretching, what does your pre-run warmup look like? Leg swings (fwd/bwd & side-to-side)? Walking lunges? Step-ups?

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I definitely find more resistance in right leg for a pigeon stretch. Not a ton more, but noticeable.

You might be onto something with the driving. I tend to rest my calf against the center console and turn my right foot inside. I know it's not the best to do, but I haven't broken that habit, yet.

Most of my runs are between 3-6 miles right now. Nothing big. My warmup is always a quarter mile brisk walk, then leg swings in all four directions. For 5+ miles I'll add in lunges. Probably need to do better.

Side note, my daily stretching is basically non-existent. Probably need to do better there, too.

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Just did 10 miles. It felt like 30 with this heat/humidity.

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lol, this is my everyday right now. I've ended runs absolutely drenched in sweat. I even had one day where I was leaving wet footprints because my shoes got so inundated with sweat.

I'm hoping it all pays off when the cooler temps start to roll in.

I almost need two pair of shoes right now for this reason. They're still wet from the day before most mornings when I lace them up

I need some good, and cheapish, options for moisture wicking shirts. Mine have me carrying 10 extra pounds by the time I'm done with this heat and humidity.

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I need some good, and cheapish, options for moisture wicking shirts. Mine have me carrying 10 extra pounds by the time I'm done with this heat and humidity.

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Yeah, don't run in cotton, if you're not there yet, eventually you'll run long enough that you'll chafe your nipples into oblivion and end up with some of the worst pain of your life as they bleed. And that's in addition to the extra weight you are carrying around.

My go to shirts for a while have been Under Armour sleeveless running shirts. I wait for them to go on clearance and then they run extra 50 percent off deals pretty regularly. Under Armour sells "fitted" sizes which is what I need to get the right length (I'm 6'3'') without being overly baggy (180 lbs). I just buy Large/Fitted and they almost always give me the perfect fit.

I haven't worn a shirt in the last 2-3 months. I run at 5am so I don't look like a complete tool. Sweat in the eyes has become the only major issue with that.

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Average Joe said:

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I need some good, and cheapish, options for moisture wicking shirts. Mine have me carrying 10 extra pounds by the time I'm done with this heat and humidity.

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Yeah, don't run in cotton, if you're not there yet, eventually you'll run long enough that you'll chafe your nipples into oblivion and end up with some of the worst pain of your life as they bleed. And that's in addition to the extra weight you are carrying around.

My go to shirts for a while have been Under Armour sleeveless running shirts. I wait for them to go on clearance and then they run extra 50 percent off deals pretty regularly. Under Armour sells "fitted" sizes which is what I need to get the right length (I'm 6'3'') without being overly baggy (180 lbs). I just buy Large/Fitted and they almost always give me the perfect fit.

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Oh, I definitely don't run in cotton. Most of mine are cheap BCG shirts from Academy. They do wonderful keeping up with walking around and sweating, but can't keep up with anything longer than about 3-4 miles with how much I sweat.

I actually got caught about 3 miles away from home once when a cloud decided to dump on me. Ran all the way back soaked. Had a shirt from a race on and it was covered in blood when I got back. Terrible week of recovery.

I'll check out Under Armour. I've seen them at TJ Maxx quite a bit when I'm there, so I might be able to snag some for cheap. Not that I'm a tight ass, but I want to get a littler further in my running journey before dropping $80+ for one shirt like Reddit loves to recommend.

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I haven't worn a shirt in the last 2-3 months. I run at 5am so I don't look like a complete tool. Sweat in the eyes has become the only major issue with that.

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I run in buffs, exclusively. Still have to use the bottom of my shirt on longer runs, so I might carry a towel soon.

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I need some good, and cheapish, options for moisture wicking shirts. Mine have me carrying 10 extra pounds by the time I'm done with this heat and humidity.

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https://terignota.com/collections/all

their stuff is very affordable and as good of quality as anything out there. Only problem is b/c of the pricepoint, they sell out very often. The brand is targeted at trail runners, but you can't go wrong with their stuff. the shirts are super lightweight.

Because I'm curious where is their stuff made? With prices that low it makes me think China which is a no-go for me. But I'd happily reconsider if it's not made there.

Their stuff is made in China, just like most other products. Its a US based company and hes very, very transparent. You can read about it on the "who are we" page on the website. He's been on a bunch of podcasts talking about the company as well.

Heres a pretty good article: https://run.outsideonline.com/gear/affordable-running-gear-terignota/

If China is a deal breaker, I get it, but most of the industry manufactures over there. Even New Balance. They assemble stateside, but all the pieces are manufactured in China. Just hard to avoid at this point.

Thanks for sharing the story, it actually sounds like a cool company and I just wish he could find a way to relocate outside of China and SE Asia. I am probably pretty far on the radical side, but I try to avoid buying anything that was made in SE Asia since chances are the Chinese are involved in the supply chain even if the final stamp says Indonesia or Vietnam or Cambodia.

I'm military, and the briefings we get pretty regularly are crystal clear that the stronger China's economy is, the more attention they can give to strengthening their own military capabilities to combat us. This is of course in addition to concerns about labor conditions and wages being paid to workers there. The only way you can make cheap clothes in China and ship them half way across the globe is to pay workers the lowest wages you possibly can.

Although your post and my subsequent googling did show that Under Armour's supplier in Jordan was apparently running the factory there like a sweat shop so I'll probably be dropping them as one of my go to suppliers for non-Chinese performance clothing.

Original Ranger Panty Soffe

Don't fight it. Join the short shorts club!

Looks like a good chunk of Soffe gear is made in the USA. Some might be from Honduras but hard to tell specifically. I have loved my Ranger Panties running in Houston this summer. Echo comments about needing to rotate shoes. I have to soak mine in some bleach/oxy clean water and dry on a fan occasionally. They end up smelling like death if I don't dry them out fast enough

If your neighborhood is like mine, the Facebook posts saying that a mountain lion is hanging around should be fired up soon.

rilloaggie said:

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Original Ranger Panty Soffe

Don't fight it. Join the short shorts club!

Looks like a good chunk of Soffe gear is made in the USA. Some might be from Honduras but hard to tell specifically. I have loved my Ranger Panties running in Houston this summer. Echo comments about needing to rotate shoes. I have to soak mine in some bleach/oxy clean water and dry on a fan occasionally. They end up smelling like death if I don't dry them out fast enough

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I'm considering starting to swing back by my house at the 7-8 mile mark for a full change of clothes including shoes and socks so I can do the last 5-6 miles without being soaked. Even at 8AM the humidity is already unbearable.

I do this on my long runs right now. I had to quit early a few weeks ago because my soaking clothes were unbearable. My shoes are squelching after about an hour so changing clothes helps all around

The humidity is usually higher in the morning. I run at 5am and it's pretty bad then but at least there's no sun. I would run earlier because I do really enjoy running in the dark, but I need at least a few people/cars to be out and about.

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I almost need two pair of shoes right now for this reason. They're still wet from the day before most mornings when I lace them up

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If you're running every day you should be rotating shoes. It takes time for the shoes to recover or so I've read. I'm a fanatic so I have a full hanging shoe organizer for all my current running shoes so at a minimum, it's two days between wears. Once a pair gets to end of life, I clean the soles and move it to the treadmill side where I keep a couple pair to rotate.

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gcracker13 said:

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I almost need two pair of shoes right now for this reason. They're still wet from the day before most mornings when I lace them up

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If you're running every day you should be rotating shoes. It takes time for the shoes to recover or so I've read. I'm a fanatic so I have a full hanging shoe organizer for all my current running shoes so at a minimum, it's two days between wears. Once a pair gets to end of life, I clean the soles and move it to the treadmill side where I keep a couple pair to rotate.

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I have 3 pairs I rotate. Supposedly you get better life from the foam of you give it a day or two to recover from a run.

RustyBoltz said:

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gcracker13 said:

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I almost need two pair of shoes right now for this reason. They're still wet from the day before most mornings when I lace them up

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If you're running every day you should be rotating shoes. It takes time for the shoes to recover or so I've read. I'm a fanatic so I have a full hanging shoe organizer for all my current running shoes so at a minimum, it's two days between wears. Once a pair gets to end of life, I clean the soles and move it to the treadmill side where I keep a couple pair to rotate.

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this has been an ongoing "argument" for years. I don't rotate shoes other than i have road shoes and trail shoes. When I was a "road runner" I did have my typical long run trainer, had speed/track shoes, and I had racing shoes.

It certainly doesn't hurt to rotate, but its not mandatory.

I probably have a problem, but I have trail shoes, slow and long shoes, nice and easy shoes, tempo shoes, track work shoes and race day shoes.

And when I find a pair I like, I immediately buy a backup pair.

Right now my EVO SLs are my top love with the Adios Pros as race shoes.

Same. 3 pair of trail shoes (long, mid, short), plus one pair of 'gravel' shoes, plus a pair of daily trainer road shoes.

I have the ability to sweat a TON practically anytime, so I rinse my shoes/insoles out every time I run in them.

Plus I just like having different shoes.

I just wear one pair of shoes, but my feet don't sweat. Eventually it runs down, but it hasn't been an issue. Yet.

Sierra.com has the evo sl for $70 as long as you don't mind Mississippi State versions.

I've got 4 pairs in my rotation

Superblast 3 are my chill miles
Megablast for some speed
Speed 4's for shorter tempo work
Carbons for racing/long runs (retired ones get used for these).

They say rotating helps save the foam, but also, having the right shoe for the workout makes all the difference in getting injured or not (imo).