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CC09LawAg
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Titan has two good options:

Farmers Walk Handles Titan Fitness

Mini Farmer's Walk Handles Titan Fitness

Maybe some kind of sandbags?

Some of the rubber 45 pound plates you can sometimes grab on marketplace that have the handles built in if you're worried about taking your "good" stuff outside.
10andBOUNCE
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Hmm, those mini handles may be pretty good.
bam02
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Check FB Marketplace. Just in my local area I see a few listings for farmers carry handles for Olympic plates
CC09LawAg
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Man, this three day split I've been on for this year has me feeling great. So much so that it has me rethinking my plans for the year - I was planning on going back to my usual four day split once I got a little less busy but may need to reevaluate.

I think the extra day of rest is huge for me - I need to do the math but I think my overall volume is actually up doing it three vs four days with the way the program I'm doing it structured.
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3 days has always felt like the best balance for me. 4 days had me feeling completely wiped at the end of each week.

I'd like to just add some more walking and abs in between days I lift.
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I do weighted vest walks on my off days - I probably get it in about 80% of the time; sometimes life just gets in the way.

I'd like to more consistently work in a 15-20 minute sled workout, but between late night workouts, the weather, and just life in general, I can't seem to ever get them done on a week to week basis. And at that point it seems kind of pointless to add on fatigue for something I'm only getting done once every other week.

I know, excuses excuses, but I'm pretty happy with my results and progress and am trying to play the long game. I feel like I'm doing a good job of getting the "needs" done, the "wants" will just have to wait awhile.
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CC09LawAg said:

I know, excuses excuses, but I'm pretty happy with my results and progress and am trying to play the long game. I feel like I'm doing a good job of getting the "needs" done, the "wants" will just have to wait awhile.
It is a journey, no doubt!
CC09LawAg
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I tell myself when I hit my 1500 total that I can start maintenance mode on the big 3 and start playing around with trying to lose weight or dunk again or some other new, crazy goal.

But I'm in uncharted waters, so no idea how difficult bridging the gap between 1000 and 1500 will be. This year is going to be fun.
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CC09LawAg said:

I tell myself when I hit my 1500 total that I can start maintenance mode on the big 3


ETA - addressing the maintenance mode comment, not the reaching of 1500
Tex117
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3 days is my limit as well if Im working on the big 4 heavy lifts.
CC09LawAg
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Yeah, deep down I'm kind of hoping it's going to be a massive grind to 1500 that burns me out and I can say "OK, I've climbed my Everest..."

Because if I can get it done by the end of this year I'm going to feel completely invincible and really start going pie in the sky.

Need 350 pounds from the last time I maxed them out and I definitely feel like there's a ton of room for improvement on my technique.
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What are y'alls favorite exercises for your delts?
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dumbbell shoulder presses and cable lateral raises for me
CC09LawAg
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I've been having good success with face pulls and cable rear delt flys for my rear delts. Noticed a visible difference there after hammering them for a few months.

For side delts, lateral raises on the cable machine or dumbbells, I tend to alternate them depending on what I'm supersetting them with.

Front delt I do overhead press, but seated DB press is probably a "better" exercise if you're looking to isolate the muscle.

ETA: For the rear and side delts, I've really come around to the "less is more" approach when it comes to weight. My traps were really taking over when I was more focused on trying to go up in weight. So I went wayyy down, way farther than I thought I should, and I think it's paying off.
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Favorite? Standing, strict barbell press.

ETA- this has been my recent favorite addition with rotator cuff work.


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https://texags.com/forums/48/topics/3520421/last#last

Received some good advice on this thread regarding starting to lift and I decided to commit to it. I'm in!

I decided to start StrongLifts because of the app. Very similar programs overall. I've never bulked on purpose before so I'm a little nervous on that. I have a lot of experience tracking calories and macros but always at a deficit.

I guess I'm not sure what enough surplus calories is. Should I just focus on getting enough protein and then throw in some quality carbs and fats? Should I try to hit certain macros? I tend to do better at eating if I gamify it; usually that's with MyFitnessPal. Any particular guides I should look at for quality bulking? Don't want to get fat, which is why I'm very hesitant to do something like a gallon of milk a day, which feels a little radical to me. We go through a gallon a week in our family of 5!

If I'm overthinking this, let me know.

On another note, first StrongLifts workout today. Man I am weak on the squat! 115 was a challenge. Mainly focused on good technique. I bench more than I squat.
CC09LawAg
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Overthinking - I'd try to get .7-1 gram of protein per pound of body weight at maybe a 40/40/20 ratio.

Don't worry about bulking, cutting, any of that until you're at least 2 years in.
CC09LawAg
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And I'd go down on your starting weight for Stronglifts - like back to the bar or maybe 65 pounds.

It goes up really fast and mentally you need the weeks of quick easy progress.

Think about it - if you go up 15 pounds a week on squat, do you think you'll be doing 315 for 5 in 3 months?

You don't want to set yourself up for failure - it's a marathon, not a sprint. You'll be back at 115 in a few weeks and it gives you time to focus on form.
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Want to clarify because I'm curious. Are there any other factors that would change that?

Just drop the ego and start on the easy stuff?

ETA: responding to your latter post. Thanks for your help with this.
CC09LawAg
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Not really. I've read a ton on these beginning programs and a common refrain is to start low. And this is from strong MFers who have done this for decades.

Look at the progression curve on the Stronglifts page I posted - you will make gains in a diagonal direction for maybe a year, two if you're lucky - then it will start to level off and you'll spend years of your life working to add 2-300 more pounds.

Take the long term approach. This is a lifestyle choice and a lifelong commitment. On Stronglifts, you'll make up the difference in a matter of weeks. You don't want to have to deload after 3 weeks because that will frustrate you.
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Thanks again. I'll start low.
CC09LawAg
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Everything you're thinking and asking is perfectly normal and natural - I did the exact same thing and went through the exact same thought process.

Work on bracing your core, your breathing, head position, how you like to hold the bar, finding a stance you're comfy with, all that little stuff…iron it all out while the weight is low and make it second nature so you don't have to think about it when it comes time to move heavy stuff.

Keep asking questions - tons of knowledge here and everyone wants to see you succeed.
Tex117
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Glad you stopped by! You are asking every question that we have asked. Usually multiple times over.

I have a slightly different take on it that CC does. I preferred the 3x5 rep scheme of Starting Strength and GreySkull over 5x5 strong lifts. As a novice (again, defined as someone who can add weight to the bar every workout), one just doesn't need 5x5 volume. At this stage, think minimum effective dose. What's the absolute least you can do to make progress? There will come a day where you have to add complexity, try and put that off as long as possible.

As for "bulking" I also have a slightly different take and a few suggestions. I do think you need to keep an eye on the weight gain and caloric intake. Will this potentially slow you down on your strength gains? Maybe, but as someone who clearly has "cut" before, you probably aren't in a mental space to just add weight to your body to add weight to the bar without a plan. (I say this because I was the same way, I cut to a very unhealthy weight.. 164 pounds at 6'5", to 240 over about a year and a half). Yes, my strength gains were solid, but (1) my blood worked sucked. High cholesterol, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, (2) I felt like crap, and (3) I didn't like how I looked in the mirror.

I have since cut down to 195 and feel much better. I'm bulking again but doing so in a much more controlled manner (I was gaining 1 lb a week for a year and a half… I should have started with 1lb a week for like 6 months… then slowed it down).

Here is my suggestion. Go get a Dexa scan. It will tell you your body fat percentage and lean body mass weight. This is a good data point. Take measurements. Measure your chest (at nipple line). Measure your waist (at belly button line). You can do hips as well. Take another scan at like the 6 month mark.

I don't know how old you are. If you are in your 20s, maybe early 30s, perhaps shoot for the classic 1 pound a week weight gain. That said, keep an eye on this. Take your measurements once a month to see how your body is responding to the calorie intake. If your waist jumps up 2 inches in a month, you need to tone it back. If it changed .25 of an inch and you put 60 pounds on your squat, you crushed it. (This is less of an issue in 6 months, as your waist is going to get thicker due to squats… this is where your dexa scan will come in handy… your will have a bigger waist, but likely didn't add much fat…. But… after about 8/9 months, this will even out)

There will be lots of folks that say just gain the weight and quit being a beetch about it. There is some truth to this as it will undoubtedly work to get your bigger and stronger. Im just suggesting that you do what makes YOU comfortable. So what if you leave a few gains on the table. You feel good, look the way you want, and are healthy.

(Also, some dudes are just built to run heavy. They can add a bunch of weight, distributed in a "burly way", their blood pressure and overall health is perfect, and they can lift a house. Good for them. Maybe you are one of those dudes.

I realized I'm not, and had to change my training and weight gain to account for that.
CC09LawAg
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This is all good stuff.

I started off overweight and coming off a sedentary lifestyle for a decade - so I could just look at exercise and lose weight at that point of my life.

I never set out with any set "lose X amount of weight" goal - I just knew I wanted to get healthier and I lost some weight due to that. I've managed to float in the 210-230 range at 6'2" with basically no strict diet and only counting my daily protein consumption.

I'm not a trainer and haven't ever trained anyone, so any advice I give is strictly anecdotal and what worked for me - if I'm giving advice I've taken from a source, I'll give the source. So while I know for a fact what I did worked for me, it is definitely not one size fits all. I haven't been "skinny" since high school so trying to force weight into my frame isn't something I've ever dealt with in my lifting journey.
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That's really the thing. There really isn't a one size fits all. Sure, there are some general principles that apply to everyone (like, you have to eat in a surplus to gain muscle mass), it very quickly gets very personal.

I certainly wasn't being critical! Just providing another view point of what could happen and lessons I learned on my journey that apply to me and could apply to someone else.

There is so much chatter out there from people that want to tell you what to do. Gain weight. Lose weight. Screw your abs. Screw being fat. Blah blah blah. It's all bullsheet. As just a normal dude trying to be a littler healthier, a little stronger, do what makes your feel comfortable while understanding what results you will get by doing so. (You want to be significantly bigger and stronger… eat well over maintenance and go for it…. If you want to be a little stronger and put on some modest muscle… eat maybe 250-400 calories over maintenance. Want to cut, cut about 250-500 calories a day below maintenance).

Definitely "getting stronger" whatever that may mean relative to the lifter, is a fantastic idea for anyone.
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Thank you for such a thoughtful response. It's valuable to hear different experiences. I do have a history with high blood pressure (when I was 30, 34 now) which led to the weight loss in the first place. Now wanting to actually get into shape instead of just skinny. I can always adjust my overall intake up or down depending on what I'm seeing on the scale or in the mirror. Gonna be a journey.

So pumped (pun intended).
Tex117
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I think that getting a little stronger and putting on some good weight (there is a difference compres to bad weight) is a great idea for many people (especially ones who got their weight under control and want to build back up). Once things start clicking, it easy to catch the strength bug.

If you are a bit more sensitive to increasing blood pressure as it relates to weight (specially, this is going to be fat), then yeah, you may need to track it and watch it. But, do keep in mind that if you want to put on some lean muscle mass (and get stronger past the newbie gains), you do need to eat in a surplus (you tinkering with it will drive the amount of that surplus… maybe shoot for 250 above maintenance and see what happens?). Also, keep in mind if you are coming off a cut, you are going to gain 3-5 pounds(ish) quick as your muscles are going to take in water and glycogen (good stuff that powers your workouts). This is no big deal. After that, start focusing on it.

Welcome to the thread! There are some guys that are really really good at lifting on here. If you have form questions (especially on that squat) they will help you!
CC09LawAg
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I feel like I'm finally making some progress filling out my rear delts and think I need to address my traps next - what are some of your favorite exercises for that? And weight/rep ranges?

I've done barbell shrugs in the past but I'm curious on if it's better to go super heavy and "cheat" or if you've had better success with slow, controlled reps at a lower weight.

I also figure this will help with my forearms and grip strength which is always a welcome bonus.
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Today I realized I've been underestimating my leg strength. I tried my body weight in squats (about 50lbs more than my previous PR) and did it 5x, with good form.
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texag06ish said:

Today I realized I've been underestimating my leg strength. I tried my body weight in squats (about 50lbs more than my previous PR) and did it 5x, with good form.

1) Good job!

2) 98% of people in the gym don't really know what their true failure point is

I'm not a fan of the Sam Sulek approach of going to failure on literally everything, but if you're not sure when the last time you loaded up too much weight or truly needed a spotter because you couldn't complete a rep or final rep, you're probably not pushing yourself hard enough.

That is tailored to this thread and audience… normal folks don't really need to train that hard if they're just trying stay in shape. If your goal is to lift heavy crap, it is a must.
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Barbell high pull. Pulling alllll the way up to your face, with a controlled eccentric.

Start light, these light up my traps like no other.
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

texag06ish said:

Today I realized I've been underestimating my leg strength. I tried my body weight in squats (about 50lbs more than my previous PR) and did it 5x, with good form.

I'm not a fan of the Sam Sulek approach of going to failure on literally everything,
Yeah, only if abusing the absolutely sheet out of PEDs.
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Setting a goal to be at 500 for my total weight (Squat, Bench, Deadlift, not sure what that is called colloquially) by the end of April. 1000 by the end of the year would be nice, but obviously pacing myself. Talking 5x5, not PR.

At my strongest in high school, my PRs were at 260 for bench, 325 or so for squat, and 375 or so for deadlift.

Squat has always been my most difficult exercise. I've never done progressive overload, though, so I'm excited to see what my body can do.
CC09LawAg
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Good goals!

I like to watch Sebastian Oreb's (AustralianStrengthCoach) videos for tips on my squat and deadlift form and feel like they've helped a lot. You may be surprised by what some small changes to your stance or form can do for your max.

They also do a good job of explaining the differences in your body type/build and why your squat may have to look different than other people's and why you may have different sticking points and what not. Very informative and made me a realize a lot about what I was told by well intentioned coaches in MS and HS wasn't universally true when it comes to squatting.
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Quote:

made me a realize a lot about what EVERYTHING I was told by well intentioned coaches in MS and HS wasn't universally true when it comes to squatting
FIFY as the majority of HS coaches know jack **** about proper weightlifting technique
 
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