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texasaggie2015
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In reply to Anti-taxxer • 1:35p, 7/10/24
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I'm still waiting for him to apologize to everyone he belittled for saying there's a good chance it comes here.

It was weird how he would say hurricanes are extremely unpredictable but freak out when someone suggested it could be a direct hit to Houston.
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In reply to Ag13 • 1:40p, 7/10/24
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Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


I talked to the guy who was assessing our neighborhood yesterday. I would have thought they'd work through the assessed areas while continuing to assess elsewhere.
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1:40p, 7/10/24
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I've seen some comments very similar to what i've been dealing with going on here - and some love for Westinghouse, but I have to disagree, lol.

I bought a Westinghouse 13k tri-fuel generator a month or so ago. Had the breaker lockout and power inlet installed by my panel, and a quick connect added to the gas meter (on the other side of the house). The unit will NOT run on natural gas. I had the plumber back out with his supervisor (last week - before the storm), who confirmed it is getting the required amount of gas per Westinghouse's specs (that you have to call to get, as they aren't published anywhere). Still wouldn't work. Thought the 3/4" 50' hose wasn't supplying enough btus (WC and PSI checked out), but Westinghouse wont even give you a btu requirement. Plumbed it directly into the meter behind a regulator at the specified WC through the 1/2" hose that came in the box - nope. Has a small engine repair guy out to check it - couldn't make it work.

Have been running on propane - and that works great, but a bottle is only lasting about 3 hours. Its getting real expensive, plus hard to source propane.

Have had a case open with Westinghouse since last week, well before the storm. Have called back everyday this week. They keep saying they will escalate my case and get back with me, but they don't.

I would avoid Westinghouse products. Also be careful relying on a long gas line.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 1:46p, 7/10/24
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Sea Speed said:
htxag09 said:
Well, to be fair, the last few years aren't exactly the best use case for Texas's way....


I get that and agree investment needs to happen and things need to change, but federalizing ANYTHING is never the answer.
And I agree there
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In reply to Shawdaddy • 1:48p, 7/10/24
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That sucks. I feel like all the brands are going to have their fair share of lemons unfortunately. My FIL had his Generac throw a rod and kill it two hours into the outage. I'm having great luck with my Westinghouse 12,500 (knocks on wood). Been running it on natural gas for 42 hours since this mess started. Had a pretty good backfire after an oil change but no issues other than that. I will say, mine is one hellaciously noisy SOB.
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In reply to Ag06Law • 1:49p, 7/10/24
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Ag06Law said:
AgLA06 said:
CowtownAg06 said:
Cloud said:
Has anyone heard of folks actually getting power restored today? Seems veeery quiet...
Almost no progress being made on the outage tracker.
There's a Million more people with power today than on Monday.

You guys are ridiculous.


Found the CenterPoint employee.
I'm not a CenterPoint employee but that seems to be good. Wasn't it 3M on Monday? Hopefully another million get it back today.
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In reply to AggieChemE09 • 1:52p, 7/10/24
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Alot of idle trucks at 930am at the Katy Mills Mall
Question - are they working round the clock? If so, they would need some sleep. If not, then it's obvious there are not enough hands (linemen) to do the job. Millions w/o power is a lot of work.
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1:54p, 7/10/24
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Update on my Predator 3500 inverter. I mentioned in my other post it shut down Monday afternoon and would not restart.

CO light flipped. Then wouldn't do anything at all.

Yesterday I came home from work. Took it back outside and the SOB fired right up. Been running ever since. Knock on wood.

My guess is that once the wind stopped blowing the heavy moisture filled air kept the CO sitting around the unit. I must have flooded the carb trying to restart it. I moved it even farther away from my garage and fence to the most open area of my yard. Been running ever since.


Saved my freezer full of deer meat. That was the most important.
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1:58p, 7/10/24
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For those in Kingwood, someone posted this on FB a couple hours ago. The old HEB parking lot.

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2:01p, 7/10/24
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Fuel truck currently at shell by home Depot at 45 and El dorado
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In reply to Ag13 • 2:05p, 7/10/24
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Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


They didn't plan for a Cat 1 storm? How is that even possible when the scale goes to 5? I could understand if they hadn't planned for Cat 4-5 as those are hellacious storms. But this was not a major hurricane.
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2:08p, 7/10/24
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Just got this Centerpoint email:


Restoration Update
Wed, Jul 10 at 2:04 PM

CenterPoint Energy and mutual assistance crews continue to focus on damage assessment and making repairs safely. This includes clearing vegetation and other debris preventing the ability to make repairs. At this time, we are working to provide you with estimated restoration dates. Due to the severity of the storm, please continue to be prepared to be without power for several days. Our crews will work around the clock until all power is restored. Thank you for your patience and understanding during this challenging time. We will send updates as they become available.

Get notified by text! Manage your notification preferences at: http://CenterPointEnergy.com/PowerAlertService

To opt out of future notifications, please call 713-207-2222.

The sender provided the following contact information.
Sender's Name: CenterPoint Energy
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Ryan the Temp
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2:10p, 7/10/24
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I got that same email twice before my power was restored.
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In reply to AlaskanAg99 • 2:13p, 7/10/24
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AlaskanAg99 said:
Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


They didn't plan for a Cat 1 storm? How is that even possible when the scale goes to 5? I could understand if they hadn't planned for Cat 4-5 as those are hellacious storms. But this was not a major hurricane.
I remember seeing a chart (from Centerpoint I believe) posted in the media before Beryl hit stating that a Category 5 would lead to outages of weeks to months. I'm also sure they said Cat 1 would be up to a few days, and we can see we are looking at weeks for some people more likely.

I can't even imagine the outages from a Category 5. Months might be generous.
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In reply to ccaggie05 • 2:14p, 7/10/24
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A cat 5 to Houston would be similar to what Katrina did to New Orleans. You would have people permanently relocated.
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2:17p, 7/10/24
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2:18p, 7/10/24
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I guess my nerves are a little frayed on Day 3 without power, but Centerpoint can suck it. I get that this is was a hurricane, but we lose power all the damn time. It just takes a regular storm to knock the power out. And I live in a relatively new house in a relatively new development. It isn't like there are tons of mature trees knocking down lines.

While I'm not a fan of government intervention, it is pretty damn obvious that Centerpoint doesn't seem to have its customers as a priority.
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In reply to spadilly • 2:20p, 7/10/24
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Not sure where you're at, but my wife got the same message. We're in Spring (77386). Centerpoint is sending the same messages to everyone, so I'm not sure how much stock to put into that for your situation directly (or mine).
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2:20p, 7/10/24
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I got a text from TNMP saying my power is expected to be on by 11pm on July 13th

Womp x2
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2:21p, 7/10/24
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77382 same email...
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2:27p, 7/10/24
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Power restored at my house in River Park(Sugar Land)
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In reply to BBRex • 2:27p, 7/10/24
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Yeah, we're in Sugar Land, but my sister got it as well and she's in the Spring area. I figured it was a general area wide email blast.
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2:33p, 7/10/24
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Caravan of orange OG&E line crews coming down i10 at energy cooridor right now
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In reply to ccaggie05 • 2:34p, 7/10/24
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ccaggie05 said:
AlaskanAg99 said:
Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


They didn't plan for a Cat 1 storm? How is that even possible when the scale goes to 5? I could understand if they hadn't planned for Cat 4-5 as those are hellacious storms. But this was not a major hurricane.
I remember seeing a chart (from Centerpoint I believe) posted in the media before Beryl hit stating that a Category 5 would lead to outages of weeks to months. I'm also sure they said Cat 1 would be up to a few days, and we can see we are looking at weeks for some people more likely.

I can't even imagine the outages from a Category 5. Months might be generous.
People would have to relocate not only due to lack of power, but to homes being damaged so badly they're not habitable. County or City would red tag them and I can't imaging if the majority of 5-6M people in the greater Houston area had to leave. They would be dispersed all over the US.

To openly state they were taken back by the widespread damage from a Cat 1 clearly shows they have no idea how to model for events like this. I've said this before, but I'll take flooding over wind every single time.
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2:34p, 7/10/24
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I've been of the mind that CNP or any service line provider should be "fined" an amount for every minute/ hour power is not available. This is only in scenarios where generation is available and users are online. Aka, this scenario.

We are charged for power and they collect a fee. Power generators are losing on revenue. Govt is losing taxes on power usage and fuel consumption.

I feel that their business model is run as hard and fast as you can, spend NOTHING on maintenance or preventative stuff, and bank on connection fees.

So for every hour we're not with a connection to power, we get money back. Force a change of the business model to spend money. Maybe not the same fee they charge, but something.


I do remember my dad complaining about deregulation and that the line people will either get screwed or screw the pooch. Generators spend money to maintain their stuff for maximum up time. Power providers, the ones you sign up with, will do their best to contact out. But line people will do nothing to collect a check.

~egon
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2:35p, 7/10/24
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There's still a trampoline on the side of egret Bay Blvd on the other side of a 10ft tall brick wall. That sucker got some air.
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In reply to AlaskanAg99 • 2:38p, 7/10/24
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AlaskanAg99 said:
Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


They didn't plan for a Cat 1 storm? How is that even possible when the scale goes to 5? I could understand if they hadn't planned for Cat 4-5 as those are hellacious storms. But this was not a major hurricane.


The way this goes, if a Cat 5 comes in for a direct hit, just go ahead and buy a new home somewhere else and collect the insurance money on the the ****pile that will be left behind.
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In reply to Cromagnum • 2:40p, 7/10/24
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Cromagnum said:
AlaskanAg99 said:
Ag13 said:


Don't worry guys - I know it's hot but assessments will be done by tonight. Progress?


They didn't plan for a Cat 1 storm? How is that even possible when the scale goes to 5? I could understand if they hadn't planned for Cat 4-5 as those are hellacious storms. But this was not a major hurricane.


The way this goes, if a Cat 5 comes in for a direct hit, just go ahead and buy a new home somewhere else and collect the insurance money on the the ****pile that will be left behind.
I wonder how far inland the destruction would go. Having borderline low end cat 1 wind gusts on the northside was a little nerve racking. I can't imagine what we would get with a Cat 5 hitting Freeport directly. I know we are far from the coast and the storm surge, but I'm not sure how well homes will hold up even in the North suburbs.
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In reply to BowSowy • 2:41p, 7/10/24
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BowSowy said:
560K is way less than the 1.35m they show on their website. Not that we needed any proof, but this makes it clear that their numbers are just made up


Yep, they're clueless.


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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2:43p, 7/10/24
Neighbor's generator sh/t the bed. What food I have is on ice. BF is working on hooking up my Duromax to run on propane. Should be a bit easier to get now that a lot of The Woodlands has power.

Friend at Alabama Power said 300+ crew are in Houston but they are in the staging area. Her tracking info says 1.36 million are still without power, so that 500k number is crap.

I half-jokingly asked if she could send them to my area if I sent her my address. She doesn't have that kind of power.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:43p, 7/10/24
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texasaggie2015 said:


Matt Lanza with a great idea. The federal government always makes things better.
the feds will certainly make all the hard work go faster

more strongly worded e-mails will take the trees off the wires
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2:44p, 7/10/24
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A Cat 5 hitting pretty much any city is going to have the same effect. It's not like Houston is the only city that's gonna be leveled by one of those.
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In reply to dBoy99 • 2:45p, 7/10/24
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dBoy99 said:
BowSowy said:
560K is way less than the 1.35m they show on their website. Not that we needed any proof, but this makes it clear that their numbers are just made up


Yep, they're clueless.

This is almost 100% the difference between the affected city of Houston outages (that the city council cares about) and the greater Houston CBSA outages in Spring, Cypress, Katy etc. Centerpoint has bungled this about as badly as possible but this discrepancy is probably just two separate service areas.

ETA to add the word probably. Not beyond possibility that Centerpoint is actually that clueless.
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2:51p, 7/10/24
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Energy capital of the world can't get electricity back to their customers.

Sounds right.
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2:52p, 7/10/24
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Where have you gone, Judge Ed Emmett
Houston turns its lonely eyes to you

this is definitely a neat trick having CP take the maximum heat instead of Lina having to eat ****
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