I Am A Critic said:

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W said:

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so no more Travis Scott in Houston -- right?

he's done

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Hardly. He'll be fine. It's not like he was inciting the savages that caused this.

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He's about to become a defendant in at least a dozen lawsuits.

drumboy said:

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Harry Lime said:

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Why the **** did he take his children there?

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I used to get dropped off at Astroworld and went to concerts at Fitz and at least one outdoor music fest (Buzz block party at city streets) in 9th grade. How did I survive?

I wouldn't drop my 16yo girl off or anything but videos of Travis Scott rages look like a blast.

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I dont thibk fitz is comparable. Nor is astroworld I dont think. Something like warped tour is probably on the level with number of attendees and was also at the same venue at least once. You bring up a great point though, because I too was going to things somewhat similar as a teenager. Idk what Travis Scott's music is about but that would probably be one of the first things I'd look at before I'd let my kids attend something like this. Just being familiar with most rap music I'd most likely not support going to a rap festival vs a punk rock or metal festival. They draw completely different crowds. Pretty good thought exercise though.

I dropped off my son and a friend at the Isaiah Rashad concert at Bayou Music Center last week and surveyed the crowd before I left and felt good about things and even more so when the concert was over. My boy said that there was an African American couple that was standing next to them that kept an eye on them and would protect them. He said he felt very safe. However, there is no way I would've let him go to Astroworld. I would've had to go with him and that's something that's pretty freaking far down my bucket list.

Yea that Brent zwerneman tweet is pretty disingenuous or misleading imo. Sure the show went on but how on earth was he supposed to know. Its not like he is listening to police scanners or has a runner telling him things about what is going on. The show has a script and I imagine the flow of the show doesn't allow for any down time.

I don't think any of those types of decisions are up to him.

Plus, no one even said "on God", how are you supposed to know if they're being serious

Sea Speed said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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I wanna know what percent was fentanyl and what percent was trauma. There could be people dead that we don't even know about yet.

They were saying on Rogan that a ton of these party drugs are filler + fentanyl put in a pill press.

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thats why no pill or line is worth doing these days. the chances of an overdose are astronomical. wanna get faded just smoke a bowl or drink some booze.

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A buddy of mine who kind of follows this stuff says that supposedly one cartel tainted another rival cartel's supply, and all of these people dying are just collateral damage.

Sounds crazy but another buddy of mine has a friend who lost his wife after she took a Xanax cut with fentanyl. And supposedly that is how Jordan Shipley's bro just died. I would be spreading the word on this to anyone you can, even if you think they'd never use street drugs. You never know.

It can be in everything right now, from knockoff Adderall to cocaine.

I think you need some new buddies

Exactly. You couldn't pay me enough to do street drugs right now. Not that I would in the first place, but the added risk of death makes it completely insane to wade in to those waters.

This girl is a current student fyi. Idk if it was this thread or another one but there are videos of her from several angles on the camera platform telling the camera man that there are dead people in the crowd. Its heartbreaking and hard to watch.

SB 43rd STREET OG said:

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Sea Speed said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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I wanna know what percent was fentanyl and what percent was trauma. There could be people dead that we don't even know about yet.

They were saying on Rogan that a ton of these party drugs are filler + fentanyl put in a pill press.

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thats why no pill or line is worth doing these days. the chances of an overdose are astronomical. wanna get faded just smoke a bowl or drink some booze.

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A buddy of mine who kind of follows this stuff says that supposedly one cartel tainted another rival cartel's supply, and all of these people dying are just collateral damage.

Sounds crazy but another buddy of mine has a friend who lost his wife after she took a Xanax cut with fentanyl. And supposedly that is how Jordan Shipley's bro just died. I would be spreading the word on this to anyone you can, even if you think they'd never use street drugs. You never know.

It can be in everything right now, from knockoff Adderall to cocaine.

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They were saying on Rogan that a lot of recent celebrity deaths are attributed to this.

They claimed this what killed Tom Petty. Got some sort of pill from a roadie that was laced with fentanyl.

[did not say whether the roadie was named Bart]

htxag09 said:

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I think you need some new buddies

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Huh? Because the wife of a friend of a friend took a street Xanax and died? Or because another friend follows border/cartel stuff? Not sure I follow.

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htxag09 said:

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I think you need some new buddies

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Or because another friend reads message boards and Twitter and Facebook about border/cartel stuff and parrots it to me like it is absolute truth and I lap it all up and pass it on?

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FIFY

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John Hilgert, 14
Brianna Rodriguez, 16
Franco Patino, 21
Jacob Jurinek, 21
Rudy Pena, 23
Danish Baig, 27

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Medical examiner seeks help identifying Astroworld Festival victim

The man, believed to be in his early 20s, had short black or dark brown wavy hair, a slight mustache with a noticeable goatee, and was wearing size 11 white Nike sneakers. He was 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighed 498 pounds.

A warning: His image, which is included below, may be disturbing to some viewers.

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Early 20s, 6'2" and 498lbs.

Dude had to have been Samoan. RIP

I'm not sure what the protocol is but I'm a little shocked they released that photo so soon.

Texaggie7nine said:

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I put some blame on Travis for not canceling or at least kicking eveyone out and start admittance over after so many people broke through security.

But the crowd bares a lot of blame.

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That is up to the city and county regulators to order and the promoter to execute. The performer isn't watching the plan being blown in real time. In fact, I don't want Travis Scott or if at a country festival someone like Luke Bryan making such a decision. It is really far beyond their singing and entertaining pay grade.

Gap said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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I put some blame on Travis for not canceling or at least kicking eveyone out and start admittance over after so many people broke through security.

But the crowd bares a lot of blame.

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That is up to the city and county regulators to order and the promoter to execute. The performer isn't watching the plan being blown in real time. In fact, I don't want Travis Scott or if at a country festival someone like Luke Bryan making such a decision. It is really far beyond their singing and entertaining pay grade.

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Agreed. Plus, Travis Scott is a horrible person. You don't want him making any decisions beyond music/lyrics. He's a complete self worshiping psycho.

Cartels may not be cutting their own drugs at all. Once it's in the hands of local dealers they are probably cutting it to stretch out their product. Fentanyl is cheap and unfortunately a little goes a long way. Would be interesting to see how many times coke in Houston is cut before end user. Would almost make sense to legalize it all and regulate it so if you want drugs at least you are getting clean drugs. Of course cartels would still pump drugs into the market but you at least have an option for stuff that has been verified clean and not cut.

Gap said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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I put some blame on Travis for not canceling or at least kicking eveyone out and start admittance over after so many people broke through security.

But the crowd bares a lot of blame.

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That is up to the city and county regulators to order and the promoter to execute. The performer isn't watching the plan being blown in real time. In fact, I don't want Travis Scott or if at a country festival someone like Luke Bryan making such a decision. It is really far beyond their singing and entertaining pay grade.

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I'm not saying he should be the one in charge of those decisions but he ultimatly is the one that decides to perform, unless he's a robot or slave.

The dude has encouraged and cheered on his fans jumping security before. He is the one that encourages this crap.

Sea Speed said:

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I'm not familiar with the guy, where does this opinion come from? I'm not refuting it, just curious.

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Cousin used to follow him before he got big and I believe has met him and he told me years ago that he is not only a complete fake (a weird nerd named Jacques Webster), he's a diva who freaks out on staff/DJ's/sound people over the slightest little flaws and generally treats people like sh**.

I guess you usually kind of have to be a self-worshiping narcissistic a-hole to get to where he is, unless it's more organically, through the streets like many other hometown rappers. I don't think he's very admired by the local guys who stayed real and put in 1,000 times the time and grind, to just make "lawyer/doctor money", while this weird little punk kid is worth tens of millions and baby daddy with a Jenner girl worth nearly a billion.

I actually like some of his music and will acknowledge that he's probably a creative genius.

Heroin has largely disappeared from much of the country….replaced by a powerful synthetic anesthetic - fentanyl. This is much stronger, much deadlier.

Fentanyl is so cheap to produce that drug dealers sprinkle it into other drugs they sell, including cocaine and methamphetamine. And fentanyl does make those drugs more euphoric. But this is quite addictive. Someone can become a fentanyl addict without even knowing it. Who are the biggest pushers? Cartels. Where? Sales are NOT focused on the big cities, where cops have sophisticated equipment.

It's obviously all over the big cities, but cartels have concentrated on suburban / rural areas.

This is a major plague. Book: Sam Quinones, The Least of Us

I don't care how rich Travis Scott is, he is a wannabe poser who couldn't hack it in the hood so he moved to Mo City like a little b tch.

It's like a local retelling of Don't Be Menace to South Central… or Next Friday but not as funny as either.