onceaggie3.0 said:

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Never heard Lina talk before is she on the spectrum?

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She's something.

Simply hearing her voice makes me rage. Like seriously irrationally angry.

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-8 people reported dead
Ages:
one is 14
one is 16
two are 21
two are 23
one is 27
one remains unknown
-6 of 8 family members have been notified. One is outside of Houston-Harris County
-25 were transported to hospital
-13 still hospitalized including 5 under the age of 18
-No one is reported missing
-4 of 25 have been discharged from hospital
-528 HPD officers provided security; 755 private security that Live Nation had

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I saw this thread and then read the news articles this morning. I almost couldn't believe my eyes…8 people dead at a concert?!?

These deaths are horrible, but I can't help but wonder if the last two years of mandates and restrictions and lockdowns contributed to this.

And city, county, and national leadership keeps insisting that covid is the greatest threat to this age group. People have their heads in the sand.

Anyone else dumbfounded by the videos of "security personnel" (complete with attire and credentials) swinging and tripping selected people of those attempting to flee?

We saw your first posts. Yes, I noticed it. But I don't think we want this to turn into a discussion on racial issues. People died last night. It's a tragedy.

Redstone said:

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Anyone else dumbfounded by the videos of "security personnel" (complete with attire and credentials) swinging and tripping selected people of those attempting to flee?

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those people werent attempting to flee, they were attempting to break in to the festival.

Chief Finner:

A lot of narratives out there right now on social media. Be respective of the families and follow the facts and the evidence.

One narrative was some individual was injecting other people with drugs.

We do have a report of a security officer according to the medical staff that he was reaching over to restrain or grab a citizen and felt a ***** in his neck.

When he was examined, he went unconscious. They administered Narcan and he was revived and the medical staff did notice a *****. That is one part of it.

There were some individuals who were trampled.

25 arrests; 23 of 25 were trespassers, 1 possession of marijuana, 1 public intoxication


HFD Samuel Pena:

Looking into permits issued and ensuring the plan submitted was adhered to.

HFD had a robust contingency & emergency response plan.

Primary medical component was delivered by 3rd party medical company. Security was the same. In spite of that, we had units pre-positioned from the HFD to ensure we were monitoring the event.

From the time the incident escalated around 9:30, we requested additional resources to the scene to augment those already pre-positioned.

From time the mass casualty incident was declared to first unit on scene was 2 minutes. Incredible response & can't go unnoticed.

Level of injuries, number of people in that venue overwhelmed 3rd party vendors

There is no occupancy permit for an outdoor event.

Calculation for the footprint, if we applied the assembly occupancy formula, they could have over 200,000 people in this venue. Venue was limited to 50,000.

They had 2 separate stages in 2 separate areas.

Injuries did not occur as people were trying to exit; evident by the fact that once the event was terminated, the footprint was cleared within the hour (50,000 people)

Looking into what led to crowd surge at the point of the stage.

Permits issued were for LPG(had inspectors); permit for pyrotechnics(had inspectors on scene); permit for tents(had inspectors); had inspectors for the permits for means of egress; doors in & out of that venue to be open & unobstructed.



Have many doses of Narcan?

Samuel Pena: We don't have that number. Several instances administered on scene.

A few weeks ago, we were on COVID level red. Why did you guys authorize an event with thousands of people?

Sylvester Turner: We just hosted the World Series. This was an event outside as well.

How many of the 528 officers were inside the crowd? And number of officers compared to 2019?

Finner: Majority of officers will be inside the complex.

Dora: In 2019, 409 event security, 30 armed private security, 47 HPD officers
In 2021, 505 event security, 91 armed private security, 76 HPD officers

As for COVID, our authority was stripped many months ago. We can't even require masks in Texas.

Other reports of people feeling needles or just the one officer?

Finner: Right now we have that one.

Who's responsibility was it to shut down concert? Why was it not stopped sooner?

Finner: Cannot just close when you have over 50,000 individuals. … That time I gave you from 9:30 to 10 minutes after ten,…it was discussion between promoters, our fire department, police department and NRG officials.

The officer who was *****ed, how is he doing?

Finner: Don't have that information. That was an interview from an investigator from the medical staff. Still trying to locate that officer.

10-year old in critical condition?

Finner: That's what we have, yes.

Met with any family members? Names?

Turner: Want to make sure they're all aware. 6 of 8 families have been notified.

Dora: Autopsies are being conducted. Still trying to identify the 8th person. A male but don't know who. Another identified but haven't found the family.

Capacity for event?

Samuel Pena: No outdoor venue capacity. Capacity, based on the footprint, they could have had over 200,000. Based on the assembly fire code calculation, they could have had over 200,000 but it was limited to 50,000. It was a wide open venue. Plan included 2 separate stages to subdivide those crowds. It was crowd control at the point of the stage that was the issue.

Lot of disinformation on Twitter. I'll follow from here.

They spinnin' hard.

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Dora: In 2019, 409 event security, 30 armed private security, 47 HPD officers
In 2021, 505 event security, 91 armed private security, 76 HPD officers

As for COVID, our authority was stripped many months ago. We can't even require masks in Texas.

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Oh Dora, following through with the old left adage of "never let a good tragedy go to waste." Next thing you know, she'll blame this on Abbott.

Nah I'm dumbfounded that your think a video during broad daylight of people rushing into the festival like wild heathens has anything to do with people being dead 5 hours later. Pay attention.

I wanna know what percent was fentanyl and what percent was trauma. There could be people dead that we don't even know about yet.

They were saying on Rogan that a ton of these party drugs are filler + fentanyl put in a pill press.

trueaggie2782 said:

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Dora: In 2019, 409 event security, 30 armed private security, 47 HPD officers
In 2021, 505 event security, 91 armed private security, 76 HPD officers

As for COVID, our authority was stripped many months ago. We can't even require masks in Texas.

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Oh Dora, following through with the old left adage of "never let a good tragedy go to waste." Next thing you know, she'll blame this on Abbott.

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Them admitting that they have no covid authority might be the best thing to come out off this tragedy.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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I wanna know what percent was fentanyl and what percent was trauma. There could be people dead that we don't even know about yet.

They were saying on Rogan that a ton of these party drugs are filler + fentanyl put in a pill press.

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thats why no pill or line is worth doing these days. the chances of an overdose are astronomical. wanna get faded just smoke a bowl or drink some booze.

Redstone said:

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There's a lot of videos floating around. I'm following through this thread instead of Twitter now. And what do I know about rap concerts?

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I was under the impression you were an early adopter of the genre!?

onceaggie3.0 said:

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Never heard Lina talk before is she on the spectrum?

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congrats, limp deek white libs. This is what your wine-drinking yoga pants-wearing SAHM word-slurring wives voted for.

Why the **** did he take his children there?

Yea not sure how anyone would think that was an appropriate venue for a hs kid

Harry Lime said:

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Why the **** did he take his children there?

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I used to get dropped off at Astroworld and went to concerts at Fitz and at least one outdoor music fest (Buzz block party at city streets) in 9th grade. How did I survive?

I wouldn't drop my 16yo girl off or anything but videos of Travis Scott rages look like a blast.

This why we only have good music festivals in the Buffalo Bayou floodplain known as Eleanor Tensley Park.

This thing is Fyre Fest 2.0. But worse.

I Am A Critic said:

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W said:

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so no more Travis Scott in Houston -- right?

he's done

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Hardly. He'll be fine. It's not like he was inciting the savages that caused this.

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Bull****