Is Tony Romo near hall of fame worthy?

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mike_ags_fan12
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If not, Ring of Honor worthy, when his playing days are done?

Career highlights and awards

3 Pro Bowl (2006, 2007, 2009)
NFC Passing Yards Leader (2009)
NFC Passing Touchdowns Leader (2007)
Ed Block Courage Award (2011)
College awards and honors
Walter Payton Award (2002)
Dallas Cowboys all-time career leader in Passing Touchdowns

As of yesterday:

Passing yards 32,753
TD-INT 236-109
Passer rating 97.1

Squirrel Master
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Not even really close to being a HOF at this point, and I'm a pretty big Romo supporter. Of course he's Ring of Honor worthy.
mrnegative
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He will need at least two nfc division titles before he's even in the conversation
98Ag99Grad
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He has great stat but no SB's or really even playoff success to speak of. Not HOF worthy at this time. And I really like the guy too.
onceaggie
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LULZ LULZ

is this a troll?
Farmer1906
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Slightly more worthy than Matt Schaub.
Farmer1906
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3 Pro Bowl (2009, 2012)
Pro Bowl MVP (2009)
NFL (not just AFC) Passing Yards Leader (2009)
4 AFC Offensive Player of the Week
Houston Texans All-time leader (Career Wins, Passing Touchdowns, Passing Yards, Pass Attempts, Pass Completions)
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No chance without playoff success. Lot of QB's have great passing numbers in today's game.

keep in mind Donovan McNabb won 9 playoff games as a starting QB.

Philip Rivers is close to the HoF than Romo right now
bigboykin
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Another Cowboy fan and Romo supporter here... No, not even close.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Slightly more worthy than Matt Schaub.


I dont know if you are trolling or not. Romo may not be HOF worthy but hes a superior QB to Schaub.

Back to op..he needs some playoff wins and probably needs at least a SB appearance for HOF. As far as ROh I think the Jones family really likes him and I think hes in or very close to in already.
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3 Pro Bowl (2009, 2012) Pro Bowl is a joke and these two should not even be used as criteria
Pro Bowl MVP (2009) See above...Oh yeah wasn't Matt Schaub one of these too?
NFL (not just AFC) Passing Yards Leader (2009) Alright I'll give you that one
4 AFC Offensive Player of the Week C'mon...Player of the Weeks? Seriously?
Houston Texans All-time leader (Career Wins, Passing Touchdowns, Passing Yards, Pass Attempts, Pass Completions)

With no playoff wins is he even Ring of Honor worthy?
gougler08
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Slightly more worthy than Matt Schaub.


I dont know if you are trolling or not. Romo may not be HOF worthy but hes a superior QB to Schaub.

Back to op..he needs some playoff wins and probably needs at least a SB appearance for HOF. As far as ROh I think the Jones family really likes him and I think hes in or very close to in already.
Of course he is a better QB but aggie1906 posted Schaub's accolades and they are not much worse than Romo's...hell I believe Schaub has more playoff wins than Romo if we want to throw that in there
Fat Bib Fortuna
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On a more serious topic, do you think DeMarco Murray is better than Jim Brown?
Macarthur
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I think it's an interesting discussion. He's not worthy but by the time he is done, he will have much better numbers than some guys that will get serious consideration

Eli, for example, will get strong consideration and romo, for the bulk of his career, has been the superior QB. The major diff is that Eli has had a competent organization that built a very good team around him. Romo has had one of the most inept organizations supporting for the years of his prime. It really is a shame. Had he been with a Pittsburg or Baltimore, he has at least one ring.
Farmer1906
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3 Pro Bowl (2009, 2012) Pro Bowl is a joke and these two should not even be used as criteria
Pro Bowl MVP (2009) See above...Oh yeah wasn't Matt Schaub one of these too?
NFL (not just AFC) Passing Yards Leader (2009) Alright I'll give you that one
4 AFC Offensive Player of the Week C'mon...Player of the Weeks? Seriously?
Houston Texans All-time leader (Career Wins, Passing Touchdowns, Passing Yards, Pass Attempts, Pass Completions)

With no playoff wins is he even Ring of Honor worthy?
No playoff wins? He's got one under his belt.

I in no way expect Schaub to make the hall of anything. But as his resume shows, its not all the different than Romos. My point being... ROMO has no shot.
jr15aggie
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Stats are definitely not the problem... his career QB rating alone says he is one of the greats. But definitely not enough division & playoff wins. Since he doesn't have enough time left to rack up multiple Div. titles & playoff wins, I think it's a pretty clear cut decision based on if he wins a Super Bowl or not.

Edit: And I think the Ring of Honor is a given. Romo, Witten, & Ware are in (with the later two being locks for the HOF).
benMath08
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http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm

Here are Romo's spots in some career all-time rankings. These are regular season only which obviously benefits Romo and I'm too lazy to find a source that combines them.

Yards - 33rd (8 active players ahead of him although Hasselbeck probably isn't playing another down)
TDs - 24th
Passer rating - 3rd (interesting that 7 of the top 10 are active players
Passes intercepted - 94th (tied with Staubach at the moment, also interesting that 9 of the top 15 players with the most passes picked off are HOFers)
Times sacked - 74th (tied with Danny White, what's up with these cowboy connections, unlike interceptions only 2 of the top 20 for most times sacked are HOFers)
Completion percentage - 6th
Interception percentage - tied for 18th with P Manning, Brees, and Tannehill (lower rank is better)
Touchdown percentage - 18th (3rd among active QBs behind Rodgers and P Manning)
Game winning drives - tied for 18th
Fourth quarter comebacks - 17th
Yards per pass attempt - Tied for 6th (only active player ahead is Rodgers)

For most of these stats it's the same crew of active players ahead of him: both Mannings, Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees, and Rodgers. Of those only Eli and Big Ben are questionable for the HOF, the rest are shoe-ins and arguable top 5 QBs all time. Rivers and Matt Ryan are pretty comparable players to Romo.

It's worth noting that Romo really shines in the "normalized" categories like passer rating, touchdown percentage, and yards per attempt. His interception percentage is good all time, but if you compare to other active players he's a little mediocre. Makes me think if Romo had played in Staubach's era he might be regarded as one of the best all time (blasphemy?)
TMACsDaMan
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If Danny White is not in the Ring of Honor...why would you put Romo ahead of him?
benMath08
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If Danny White is not in the Ring of Honor...why would you put Romo ahead of him?
Become Romo is significantly better in nearly every measurable category?
jr15aggie
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If Danny White is not in the Ring of Honor...why would you put Romo ahead of him?
Become Romo is significantly better in nearly every measurable category?

Not to mention Danny was not one of Jerry's guys. As long as a Jone's is making the decision, Romo will be in the ring of Honor. He's been the face of the franchise for over a decade now. He's in.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Romo at this time is not going to HOF. That may or may not change.

As far as ROH goes I've watched the Jerry owned Cowboys long enough and know how he is enough to say that unless Romo is caught point shaving or caught up in a sex scandal Jerry is going to put him in the ROH.

The others Jerry has put in there have been Landrys guys or guys hes shared with Jimmy. Romo is all his and he's his baby. Hes gona put him in barring any major negative developments.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Jr beat me to it. Romo is Jerrys guy. Makes a huge difference. A lot of us know Jerrys psychology and how his mind works.
W
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here's another problem...

one of the classic excuses made for QB's is:

"well, he didn't have any weapons to throw to"

that doesn't apply to Romo with Witten, Dez, and T.O. (for a short time) -- that's 2 or 3 Hall of Famers.

Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Flacco...would love to have (or have had) those kind of weapons
mike_ags_fan12
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If Danny White is not in the Ring of Honor...why would you put Romo ahead of him?


Does anybody believe Danny White should be in the ROH? I wasn't even born when he was playing but my dad told me he was the 80's Romo. Great Qb who couldn't win the big one..
benMath08
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here's another problem...

one of the classic excuses made for QB's is:

"well, he didn't have any weapons to throw to"

that doesn't apply to Romo with Witten, Dez, and T.O. (for a short time) -- that's 2 or 3 Hall of Famers.

Eli, Rivers, Big Ben, Flacco...would love to have (or have had) those kind of weapons
Eli, Rivers, and Roethlisberger all have and/or had some pretty good players to throw to.

Amani Toomer, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Tiki Barber, Hines Ward, Antonio Brown, Plaxico Burress, Heath Miller, Mike Wallace, Antonio Gates, Vincent Jackson, Ladainian Tomlinson. Flacco did get the short straw, although you can do worse than Torrey Smith.
ac
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If Danny White is not in the Ring of Honor...why would you put Romo ahead of him?


Does anybody believe Danny White should be in the ROH? I wasn't even born when he was playing but my dad told me he was the 80's Romo. Great Qb who couldn't win the big one..


Danny White took the Cowboys to 3 straight NFC Title Games. Romo has won a grand total of 1 playoff game (which does equal Matt Schaub as pointed out or for that matter TJ Yates). While White couldn't win the big one, he's come closer than Romo.

Yes, Romo is better than Schaub but no, he's not a HOFer. Cowboys ROH? That seems to be strictly based on Mr. Jones' opinions, so yes that is a strong possibility.
mike_ags_fan12
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I believe one good playoff run to a Super Bowl, win or lose, will justify talks about the HOF.

I also think romo has a good 3-4 more years left in the NFL, which makes me believe at the end of his career, his numbers will be equal to or better than one Dan Fouts, who is Super Bowl-less. That must say something to writes who write up the ballots.

Or maybe I'm crazy
PooDoo
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I think if he makes it to the Superbowl it would get him onto the list of finalists.

Unfortunately they don't have the d-line they are going to need to get there. This team needs one heck of a draft and some key free agency signings.
MW03
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Unless he wins a couple of late superbowls a la John Elway, he'll supplant Danny White as the most underrated and unfairly reviled QB in Dallas history.
BCR
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Can't win the biggest games. Chokes in the bright lights. Count up the playoff wins.
corleoneAg99
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No but he's much better than he'll ever be given credit for.
MW03
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Check these stats out for these 3 guys between the ages of 26-34 (which is the extent of Romo's career).

Two of them are HOF QBs from the modern era. The other one is Tony Romo. Can you name them (without cheating)?

Player 1:
  • 75-52 record
  • 210 TDs
  • 133 INTs
  • 32,664 yards passing
  • 59.6 comp %
  • 86.3 passer rating
  • 102 yards rushing with 6 TDs
Player 2:
  • 73-48 record
  • 236 TDs
  • 109 INTs
  • 32,753 yards passing
  • 65 comp %
  • 97.1 passer rating
  • 579 yards rushing with 5 TDs
Player 3
  • 78-53 record
  • 152 RDs
  • 125 INTs
  • 29,584 yards passing
  • 56.9 comp %
  • 78.4 passer rating
  • 2,034 yards rushing with 24 TDs

Disclaimer: I'm not equating these guys, nor am I endorsing Romo as a HOF guy. Just pointing out the similarity of the statistics over this very limited set.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Check these stats out for these 3 guys between the ages of 26-34 (which is the extent of Romo's career).

Two of them are HOF QBs from the modern era. The other one is Tony Romo. Can you name them?

Player 1:
  • 75-52 record
  • 210 TDs
  • 133 INTs
  • 32,664 yards passing
  • 59.6 comp %
  • 86.3 passer rating
  • 102 yards rushing with 6 TDs
Player 2:
  • 73-48 record
  • 236 TDs
  • 109 INTs
  • 32,753 yards passing
  • 65 comp %
  • 97.1 passer rating
  • 579 yards rushing with 5 TDs
Player 3
  • 78-53 record
  • 152 RDs
  • 125 INTs
  • 29,584 yards passing
  • 56.9 comp %
  • 78.4 passer rating
  • 2,034 yards rushing with 24 TDs

Disclaimer: I'm not equating these guys, nor am I endorsing Romo as a HOF guy. Just pointing out the similarity of the statistics over this very limited set.

It's a trick question. The doctor is the boy's mother.
mrnegative
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Check these stats out for these 3 guys between the ages of 26-34 (which is the extent of Romo's career).

Two of them are HOF QBs from the modern era. The other one is Tony Romo. Can you name them (without cheating)?

Player 1:
  • 75-52 record
  • 210 TDs
  • 133 INTs
  • 32,664 yards passing
  • 59.6 comp %
  • 86.3 passer rating
  • 102 yards rushing with 6 TDs
Player 2:
  • 73-48 record
  • 236 TDs
  • 109 INTs
  • 32,753 yards passing
  • 65 comp %
  • 97.1 passer rating
  • 579 yards rushing with 5 TDs
Player 3
  • 78-53 record
  • 152 RDs
  • 125 INTs
  • 29,584 yards passing
  • 56.9 comp %
  • 78.4 passer rating
  • 2,034 yards rushing with 24 TDs

Disclaimer: I'm not equating these guys, nor am I endorsing Romo as a HOF guy. Just pointing out the similarity of the statistics over this very limited set.


Can you please include postseason record, conference title appearances, super bowl appearances, and rings?
MW03
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Muck, I take it you're a feminist.
 
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