If the guy is telling the truth, he arrived here lawfully and secured a work permit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/21/us/ice-shooting-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Unfortunately, if we did what you want, we get no deportations, and we don't get to have a country any more.

A strict observance of written law is certainly an important duty but it isnt the highest. The law of necessity, self preservation and saving your country is higher. To lose our nation by a extreme adherence to the law would lose law itself and absurdly sacrifice the end to the means.

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You do understand we can have strong borders and strong immigration enforcement and not let it get out of hand, right? There's nuance. The current situation is not so dire that we have to decide between the rule of law and self preservation. There is a massive gap between reality and a world where that is necessary.

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More American's killed by illegals than illegals killed by ICE. Think about that for a moment.

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FAR MORE..don't forget raped, injured and abused too. And stolen from. Some illegal lady stole my wife's ID back in college and it took her years and years before that was resolved and her credit score finally came out of the 500-600's.

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what does the constitution say if another country nukes us? I guess we cannot do anything because it doesn't say anything about nukes.

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There is not a single drop of ambiguity with regard to the responsibility in response to an act of war, and I suspect that you already know that.

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These are invaders not migrants. they don't want to be Americans. do you not see them protest with Mexican flags and other countries' flags? They don't want to be Americans, they just want to take our resources. Their loyalty isn't to the US, their loyalty is to their home country. If they wanted to be Americans, they would do it the legal way and denounce all loyalty to any other country than the US.

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If they were invaders, we would use the Army to round them up and deal with them under the applicable statutes, even if we find them to be unlawful combatants.

They're not. We don't.

We claim to be using law enforcement to enforce the (civil and criminal) law against these people. The Constitution requires us to pay attention to what the law is. That is what makes The United States different from … most of the rest of the world.


There was a Japanese sailor who was captured, actually attacking and invading the United States on December 7, 1941.

We didn't kill him.

We shipped him to Wisconsin.

After the war, he had a long career at Toyota, IIRC.

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So it's okay for the population of another country to overrun our nation if they only commit misdemeanors?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

At least this gives all of those liberal losers in Austin something to do.

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If the guy is telling the truth, he arrived here lawfully and secured a work permit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/21/us/ice-shooting-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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He had a final deportation order. That has been confirmed. Whatever previous status he had is absolutely irrelevant.

And he is lying about the whole thing.

As usual, the NYT... I mean the FREE PRESS, is misreporting things.

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So it's okay for the population of another country to overrun our nation if they only commit misdemeanors?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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If he claimed asylum and subsequently was shown not to qualify, he is here illegally. As soon as the deportation order was issued, he is committing a crime by remaining here. When he refused to pull over he committed more crimes.

He is not going to spin the "I thought it was just an aggressive drive and was too scared to pull over", It doesn't meet the smell test. It was noon on a Sunday, he knew he was an illegal. I suspect we will learn lots more about his other illegal activities, which almost certainly include identity theft if he was really a door dasher. He is an illegal in Texas so he is also almost certainly operating a vehicle withou a valid license. Likely does not have insurance on the vehicle.

How many crimes does he need to commit to be a bad guy in your world?

I mean most of the left don't even give a **** if they have engaged in human trafficking like Maryland dad (and actually beat their wives) or if they rape and murder innocent women. The left still fights for them.

Truly sick.

Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Only a joke to people who support open borders and want mass amnesty for all illegals.

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Every time I think you couldn't possibly post something more wrong you surprise me..

This "low hanging fruit" had a final deportation order.

Law enforcement all over the country execute arrest warrants daily. This guy shouldn't have been here. They were executing a judges deportation order..

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Hegseth, Miller, Leavitt, Mullins, Homan, Patel, Bondi...just one lightweight sycophant after another.

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A couple of laggards in that list for sure. And some solid ones that weather constant attacks pretty well.

Pick your dream person and they would get unyielding attacks from the legacy media and have the negative impressions from the general public that go with it.

And you didn't mention Vance, Rubio, Bessenet, and Zeldin...all who are doing solid work especially given the nature of the beast.

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

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Stop lying, most millions entered ILEGALLY though the open border, MILLIONS. Also, we have had a million deportation, from all over the world.

TPS is temporary, that no longer applies, so they are now ILLEGAL. Move on

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Every time I think you couldn't possibly post something more wrong you surprise me..

This "low hanging fruit" had a final deportation order.

Law enforcement all over the country execute arrest warrants daily. This guy shouldn't have been here. They were executing a judges deportation order..

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People seeking asylum claims are now being denied. They are in the system. They did it the right way. They are being denied asylum claims b/c apparently "Venezuelans are dancing in the streets." It is a joke. Same for the Cubans.

But the joke is on us who voted for Trump who is breaking bread with Commie Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Sucks because Republicans are about to get slaughtered in the mid terms due to Trump's hubris.

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

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This is false

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Every time I think you couldn't possibly post something more wrong you surprise me..

This "low hanging fruit" had a final deportation order.

Law enforcement all over the country execute arrest warrants daily. This guy shouldn't have been here. They were executing a judges deportation order..

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People seeking asylum claims are now being denied. They are in the system. They did it the right way. They are being denied asylum claims b/c apparently "Venezuelans are dancing in the streets." It is a joke. Same for the Cubans.

But the joke is on us who voted for Trump who is breaking bread with Commie Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Sucks because Republicans are about to get slaughtered in the mid terms due to Trump's hubris.

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Maybe, maybe not, but we will have at least two more years deporting ILLEGALS. 98% of asylum claims are being denied because they not are legit. Take the L

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If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

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Stop lying, most millions entered ILEGALLY though the open border, MILLIONS. Also, we have had a million deportation, from all over the world.

TPS is temporary, that no longer applies, so they are now ILLEGAL. Move on

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Hard to argue with someone who doesn't look at the facts. That is okay.

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Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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This is the question that needs answering

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Needy sip who can't even make a sandwich, probably starving to death!

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So it's okay for the population of another country to overrun our nation if they only commit misdemeanors?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

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Stop lying, most millions entered ILEGALLY though the open border, MILLIONS. Also, we have had a million deportation, from all over the world.

TPS is temporary, that no longer applies, so they are now ILLEGAL. Move on

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Hard to argue with someone who doesn't look at the facts. That is okay.

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Thats why this board think your trolling, because you don't look at the facts.

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So it's okay for the population of another country to overrun our nation if they only commit misdemeanors?

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Every time I think you couldn't possibly post something more wrong you surprise me..

This "low hanging fruit" had a final deportation order.

Law enforcement all over the country execute arrest warrants daily. This guy shouldn't have been here. They were executing a judges deportation order..

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People seeking asylum claims are now being denied. They are in the system. They did it the right way. They are being denied asylum claims b/c apparently "Venezuelans are dancing in the streets." It is a joke. Same for the Cubans.

But the joke is on us who voted for Trump who is breaking bread with Commie Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Sucks because Republicans are about to get slaughtered in the mid terms due to Trump's hubris.

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Maybe, maybe not, but we will have at least two more years deporting ILLEGALS. 98% of asylum claims are being denied because they not are legit. Take the L

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Cuba and Venezuela…..ya….their situation has totally changed.

Take the loss. You are out of your league here

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Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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This is the question that needs answering

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Needy sip who can't even make a sandwich, probably starving to death!

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spreading miracle whip on bread can be a challenge for some.

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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This is true. Most (especially Venezuelans) entered the country LEGALLY under TPS or the "parole" system set up by Biden.

The ironic thing is Trump is meeting with 2 Communists in New York. Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Unfortunately we now have unqualified ICE agents running around going for low hanging fruit. People that actually were in the system…not the violent.

Btw, where are those military aged young men from China we kept hearing about who crossed the border under Biden? Are they being deported?

It is a joke.

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Every time I think you couldn't possibly post something more wrong you surprise me..

This "low hanging fruit" had a final deportation order.

Law enforcement all over the country execute arrest warrants daily. This guy shouldn't have been here. They were executing a judges deportation order..

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People seeking asylum claims are now being denied. They are in the system. They did it the right way. They are being denied asylum claims b/c apparently "Venezuelans are dancing in the streets." It is a joke. Same for the Cubans.

But the joke is on us who voted for Trump who is breaking bread with Commie Mandani and Delcy Rodriguez.

Sucks because Republicans are about to get slaughtered in the mid terms due to Trump's hubris.

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Maybe, maybe not, but we will have at least two more years deporting ILLEGALS. 98% of asylum claims are being denied because they not are legit. Take the L

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Cuba and Venezuela…..ya….their situation has totally changed.

Take the loss. You are out of your league here

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Yes it has changed, TEMPORARY status was ended. Wake up. Now they can go back and make live in peace. Progressive paradise awaits!

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Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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Supposedly yes, but the red stuff wasn't picante sauce. But it all worked out, one of their dinner guests was a vampire.

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To the best of my knowledge, about 40% of the people who are in this country illegally are people who arrived lawfully.

If I understand the law correctly, they have committed no misdemeanor in being here.

It appears that the crime that we are discussing is "running from the cops."

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Free legal advice.
https://gurionlegal.com/dont-run-from-police-unlawful-flight-from-police/

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Enough about this dirtbag, did they finally get their DoorDash order?

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Supposedly yes, but the red stuff wasn't picante sauce. But it all worked out, one of their dinner guests was a vampire.

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If the guy is telling the truth, he arrived here lawfully and secured a work permit.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/21/us/ice-shooting-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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NYTimes lies.

Also paywalled.

No worries, the complicit media influencers some refer to as the "Free Press as Ordained by Amendment One" hit all their talking points about Texas DoorDash Man.

I am sure Quasar will be having him over for margs just as soon as this guys unbearable pain subsides.

DHS sources confirmed to Fox News on Sunday that Garces Perez is an illegal immigrant from Venezuela with a final order of removal.

DHS said Garces Perez illegally entered the United States under the Biden administration. The agency said he was shot during a law enforcement operation.

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DHS said Garces Perez illegally entered the United States under the Biden administration. The agency said he was shot during a law enforcement operation.

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I quit believing DHS sources on roughly January 24.

Have we discussed how this illegal was delivering for door dash? Who's id did he steal?

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Have we discussed how this illegal was delivering for door dash? Who's id did he steal?

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Anyone with a pulse and a car can work for door dash.

Speaking English is an option

people apparently sign up and then farm out their id, sub it to an illegal. Common in uber too.