Justice Department agrees to $1.776B Fund for Trump Allies

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GeorgiAg said:

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Octo Pie said:

This administration is doing corruption on an order of magnitude worse than anything before it. These are the kinds of things you'd expect to see from third world dictatorships, not the leaders of the free world.

It's a travesty that the sports-fandom-ification of American politics rendered so many people tolerant of this behavior so long as it denies their perceived enemies power.

This is incorrect.

Do you really think this administration was worse than Grant or Hardin?

So we are going back over 100 - 150 years to find any sort of comparison?


Im sorry, I took you literally. Were you exaggerating? Like Trump?

But, if we did a side by side of Obama, Biden or Bill, it would turn out poorly for the dems anyways. Bill fraternize with an intern, Obama abused the office terribly, Hunter ran Joes influence scheme with his finger paints and Burisma.
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Collins is +17 per Quantus poll yesterday for the runoff (caveat, I don't know anything about them).
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Wrong thread
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Iced-T14 said:

It's a simple question Buster, is he draining the swamp or is he expanding it?


More swamp draining. This this time against people stealing money from autistic kids.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/21/medicaid-fraud-minnesota-walz-rfk-00932502
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Oh man! He's almost removed 1/4 of an Qatari sized jet worth of fraud!
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Iced-T14 said:

Oh man! He's almost removed 1/4 of an Qatari sized jet worth of fraud!


What about all of the services we don't have to pay to illegal aliens now that the border is closed? How many jets would it take to pay for another 20 million illegal immigrants?

And how do you translate that into Hunter Biden finger paintings? That's not very many finger paintings it took for Biden to open the door to all those illegals.
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M.C. Swag said:

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The "felonies" were contrived. But you know that. It's sick that you don't care. What was done to him is antithetical to the founding of this nation. That matters to me.

Shh go away Bot, real humans are speaking.
Uhh, I'll hold my tongue. What I think of you is ban worthy.
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What about his billion dollar slush fund? Trump coin?

The point is that he is contributing to the Swamp in ways that benefits him. Good job on getting rid of some D fraud, now work on getting rid of the fraud and cronyism that Trumps imparting
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Iced-T14 said:

What about his billion dollar slush fund? Trump coin?

The point is that he is contributing to the Swamp in ways that benefits him. Good job on getting rid of some D fraud, now work on getting rid of the fraud and cronyism that Trumps imparting


You insinuated he is a net negative. Simple math shows he's not.

Can you name anyone else that has reduced more fraud than they have received in graft? Im not sure you will get there.

And, how much fraud happened related to the slush fund?

How much taxpayer money related to the crypto coin?

My point is that you point fingers very selectively.
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So you admit he's grifting? Swamp isn't just about fraud, it's about using your political position to enrich yourself. He is very much using his position as President to broker deals, enrich himself, his family, and his friends. That's corruption. That's cronyism. That's swamp
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Does this mean the Jan 6 Rioters were paid protestors?
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GMaster0 said:

Does this mean the Jan 6 Rioters were paid protestors?


The violent ones were likely already paid by SPLC
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Michael Cohen has now stated he will apply for payment from this fund. I'm sure his chances are right at pretty much zero as there is no way Trump and his henchmen will even consider his request.
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fredfredunderscorefred said:

GMaster0 said:

Does this mean the Jan 6 Rioters were paid protestors?


The violent ones were likely already paid by SPLC

SPLC and the FBI alike. The FBI pays CHS, generally around $100K/year I think. Chris Wray's finest. But they didn't face many legal fees/costs, unless one counts Ray Epps. And they just couldn't ever figure out the dapper gallows man.
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This fund is for folks like Michael Caputo, falsely accused of Russian collusion by people in the Federal Government who knew it was all a hoax, who went well into debt proving their innocence from allegations of a government involved in yet another Democrat Party con job.

And if the Democrats, their GOP eunuchs, and the unelected bureaucracy doesn't like shelling out almost $2 billion in damages, then perhaps they should not engage in breaking the law in order to destroy a political opponent and those supporting him.

Red doesn't want the Federal Government held accountable for abuses in power; he wants it to continue serving as a tool for the American left to run their enemies into debt or into prison by any means necessary.

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What's amazing to me is that a bunch of GOP senators yesterday threw a tantrum about this in a closed door meeting, then went home for 2 weeks, but when it came out that their phone records were seized (without notification/under nondisclosure court orders) of course they got $500K in compensation because that was so outrageous to them.

Democrats melting down at anything Trump does to help people vs. the government I expect, but the broader GOP scum bags doing this is just utterly pathetic, imho.
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TOUCHDOWN! said:

So we're paying Trump's buddies about 8x the amount DOGE "saved" us.

What a great success


Nope. We are paying for the coup attempt and the subsequent lawfare against Trump and Republicans brought about by the Democrat Party and their willing accomplices in the Federal Government.

Don't like it? Let the IRS know it is illegal to hand out tax returns of private citizens to the media. Let the FBI know it is illegal to falsify evidence in order to secure surveillance rights.

Stop using the government against your political enemies. After that, you will not have to pay the price for violating the rights of Americans.
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It's just who the democrats are now, they got addicted to believing thugs like Comey, Wray, Mueller, Fauci, Garland, Fanni, Tish James, Boasberg etc.

Most recently, when one of their own, Governor Polis decided to finally grant clemency to Tina Peters, a sick elderly woman in state prison on trumped up charges after she had the temerity to expose the fraud in Colorado elections, what was the Democrat party's response? They have censured the governor.
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In a virtual meeting on Wednesday, the Colorado Democratic Party's State Central Committee voted to censure Polis and condemn his actions. Party member Andrew Brandt said the governor has been a problem for the party for some time, and censuring Peters was too much to overlook.

"I cannot tolerate a governor who treats a law-breaking county clerk and recorder in this way," Brandt said.

As a result of the censure, Polis cannot be an officially recognized representative of the Colorado Democratic Party at the group's events or functions, nor can he attend as a featured guest.

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Remind me never to get on DataRepublican's bad side. Who are we kidding, I love her work.
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Iced-T14 said:

So you admit he's grifting? Swamp isn't just about fraud, it's about using your political position to enrich yourself. He is very much using his position as President to broker deals, enrich himself, his family, and his friends. That's corruption. That's cronyism. That's swamp


There is a zip code in DC that has the most expensive housing in the country. Why is that?

My point is that you are using a different measuring stick against people you don't like.

We should just nuke DC and start over, because they are all crooks. Until we do that though, the best we can do is vote for the least of all evils. At least Trump is doing more good than harm. The spears thrown at him pale in comparison to, for example, lying to the FISA court 72 times in order to spy on your opponents political campaign.
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GMaster0 said:

Does this mean the Jan 6 Rioters were paid protestors?


Yes.

All the ones that were not convicted were paid by the Dem party to be there.
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Flynn will be one of the first in line, and that is what is pissing off the Uni party so bad.
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nortex97 said:

What's amazing to me is that a bunch of GOP senators yesterday threw a tantrum about this in a closed door meeting, then went home for 2 weeks, but when it came out that their phone records were seized (without notification/under nondisclosure court orders) of course they got $500K in compensation because that was so outrageous to them.

Democrats melting down at anything Trump does to help people vs. the government I expect, but the broader GOP scum bags doing this is just utterly pathetic, imho.


This autistic woman is my absolute hero.
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She needs to keep roasting Thune. He isn't one of us.
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Well, the Senate is pretty much firmly against Trump now saying the budget reconciliation bill is going nowhere due to this issue. I'm not sure I care about this fund one way or the other but it will be politically stupid for Trump to die on this hill if he decides to play chicken with the Senate on it. Thune is already effectively a traitorous Democrat in my book and hates Trump. Rest of Senate is pissed at Trump because he didn't endorse Cornyn.

I also laugh at Democrats on here calling this corruption as "orders of magnitude" greater than anything else ever done. Lol at that. Read some history. Recent history at that...in blue states.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

She needs to keep roasting Thune. He isn't one of us.

Don't get me wrong, I am not thrilled about nearly $1.8 billion of tax payer money being used, but what do you do for those who were targeted by the DOJ? I don't blame Trump or others for receiving compensation/justice and I prefer this over Trump getting it all just because he has the money/power to go after restitution.

It pisses me off the people that caused the damage and cost the tax payers get away with it all having nothing taken from them.
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Too bad Neville Thune bleeds so much for Butch Cassidy and the Brisket Kid.

Last time I checked, the President is a Republican elected by people who tend to vote for Republicans supporting the GOP agenda as it is defined by the only Republican elected to national office.

For years, the Thune types told us to suck it up and support the GOP agenda as it stood with Bush 41 and Bush 43. What did we get in return? The destruction of the Reagan Revolution and killing capitalism in order to save it.

The minute Republicans tire of kissing Democrat ass and bring in someone who is not going to play that game, these Romney/McCain types decide things are better remaining as lackeys for the Jackass Party and throw every roadblock possible in the way of the POTUS.

Friends like these enable enemies to behave exactly as they did from 2021 to 2025.

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We fixed the keg said:


It pisses me off the people that caused the damage and cost the tax payers get away with it all having nothing taken from them.


This exactly. The system protects the unelected, leftist-aligned bureaucracy from the consequences of their actions. If you try to go after people like James Comey, guilty of conspiracy and perpetrating a fraud on the Federal Government, then a jury of his leftist peers will absolve him so long as he stays within the Beltway's protective orbit.

The same Republicans currently whining about Trump's endorsements are the same ones who didn't lift a finger to hold anyone associated with coup attempt against Trump to account for their actions.

Nothing but enablers of a system that must work for them on some level. There is absolutely no reason for a Republican to protect it unless they are in on the corruption and the statism.

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We fixed the keg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

She needs to keep roasting Thune. He isn't one of us.

Don't get me wrong, I am not thrilled about nearly $1.8 billion of tax payer money being used, but what do you do for those who were targeted by the DOJ? I don't blame Trump or others for receiving compensation/justice and I prefer this over Trump getting it all just because he has the money/power to go after restitution.

It pisses me off the people that caused the damage and cost the tax payers get away with it all having nothing taken from them.


Couldn't those individuals hire their own attorneys to sue on their own to try and get compensation that way? Or would this be the only way they could ever get compensation?
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Couldn't those individuals hire their own attorneys to sue on their own to try and get compensation that way? Or would this be the only way they could ever get compensation?

In short, "yes", but it takes money to fight the government....and amounts most of those harmed either don't have, or don't have anymore as it was wiped out defending themselves from a weaponized DOJ.

Trump has/had the power and the pockets to do this, but I don't think many of those J6'ers did. Even some folks who had money and lawyers in the beginning, ended up getting wiped out when targeted.

For me, there are so many facets to this. Examples:

  • Don't like the fact we are footing the bill. What other way can people be compensated for the damage done by a corrupt system if the system refuses to hold the guilty personally reliable? I look at this like the city footing the bill for bad actions of a police officer.
  • Don't want actual lawbreakers, or violent offenders, in the J6 ranks getting anything, but I also don't trust the system to identify who was actually a bad actor and not just labeled one by a lawless/corrupt group in the DOJ. Especially since our lovely Dems covered their tracks by destroying their evidence on the way out.
  • Don't want this money "enriching" anyone but the people that were impacted and want it done so reasonably. Example: If someone had to show up, pay a $5,000 fine, and got 30 days probation, the shouldn't be entitled to $10 million. On the flip-side, if someone got wrongly tagged with criminal charges, spent a year in jail, lost their jobs, wives, family, friends, etc. that $10 million might not be enough..... and in both cases, if the damages be determined to be $10k or $10M, I don't want the law offices of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe getting $7k and $7M of that.
ETA: Would actually like to here some discussion / debate from others as I am open to change my mind if others have sound arguments.
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BusterAg said:

Flynn will be one of the first in line, and that is what is pissing off the Uni party so bad.

It's one of the things, to be sure. And of course, General Flynn did absolutely nothing wrong, and had his son threatened if he didn't give in and plea to the FBI goons lies. He had hundreds of thousands in legal costs.

But there are many others, often unknown names to the broader public. Example:

Correct:
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Remember they couldn't even get the name of the bank correct. The Steele suckers said it was an honest mistake. Lol. All those people are long gone.
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HTownAg98 said:

Like any government program, there will be fraud involved.

At this point we just have to hope less fraud. The GOP sucks balls but it's less fraudulent and corrupt than the dems by far.
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Blanche gets to appoint all the members (one has to be done in consultation with Congress, whatever that means), the President can fire any of them without cause, the commission gets to set its own rules without any oversight, and all settlements will be confidential, including who gets money and how much. If you ever want to commit fraud, this is how you do it.
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HTownAg98 said:

Blanche gets to appoint all the members (one has to be done in consultation with Congress, whatever that means), the President can fire any of them without cause, the commission gets to set its own rules without any oversight, and all settlements will be confidential, including who gets money and how much. If you ever want to commit fraud, this is how you do it.


It is subject to oversight, reporting, disclosures, legal challenges and FOIA rules.

Why simply lie? I know you are capable at reading and understanding the details provided. But nah, Orange Man is Fraudster is all you can arrive at. What a shame…
 
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