And you think Trump won't?

Ben Shapiro is convinced he will.

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will25u said:

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You must have missed the even more binding pardons that Biden handed out like candy to his family and close allies?

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Pardons pale in comparison to multi generational tax avoidance.

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I'm sorry, what?

It didn't say they don't have to pay taxes and records show they have paid plenty.

Sorry you don't know how tax planning and deferments and carry forwards and backwards and such work.

But you don't get to lob crimes with no evidence.

Oh wait, I forget about TDS…

Unbelievable.

Amen. What has been done to Trump is only comparable to the greatest of sufferers of men.

May God continue to bless Our Donald John Trump.

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Iced-T14 said:

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will25u said:

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You must have missed the even more binding pardons that Biden handed out like candy to his family and close allies?

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Pardons pale in comparison to multi generational tax avoidance.

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I'm sorry, what?

It didn't say they don't have to pay taxes and records show they have paid plenty.

Sorry you don't know how tax planning and deferments and carry forwards and backwards and such work.

But you don't get to lob crimes with no evidence.

Oh wait, I forget about TDS…

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What is there to enforce tax payments if the IRS can't go after him, his family, corporation, or trusts? He gonna pay out of the goodness of his heart?

The true TDS is those who support his every work and ignore the blatant corruption and enrichment.

And LO f'n L at "records show they have paid plenty" as if that forgives future multi generational non-payment

He donates his salary to charity… out of the greediness of his own heart?

So you are projecting a crime upon him because why? It's what your side would do? What you would do?

Based on what are you basing your brand accusations of "tax avoidance"?

Your TDS has spun you out bro. Breathe.

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I'm a republican buddy. Turns out, you can be one without sucking orange man peen

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That's cute. So are you a Joe Biden Republican? An AOC Republican? A Bernie Bro Republican?

Because Trump is the Republican Party these days. If you have end stage TDS, then I find it hard to believe you are a Republican.

Hth.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Amen. What has been done to Trump is only comparable to the greatest of sufferers of men.

May God continue to bless Our Donald John Trump.

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At this point, I'm not sure if there's a joke I'm missing (I didn't read every post)....or whether this is something out of the Osteen gospel.

Comparing a wealthy, trust-funded, billionaire's issues to people who have truly suffered is just ridiculous. About 99.9% of the world would love to experience the "suffering" that billionaire-Trump has experienced haha.

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How many would get back up after narrowly dodging an assassins bullet?

Yea, didn't think you had much answer for that.

The Massie party is looking for new blood.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Amen. What has been done to Trump is only comparable to the greatest of sufferers of men.

May God continue to bless Our Donald John Trump.

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At this point, I'm not sure if there's a joke I'm missing (I didn't read every post)....or whether this is something out of the Osteen gospel.

Comparing a wealthy, trust-funded, billionaire's issues to people who have truly suffered is just ridiculous. About 99.9% of the world would love to experience the "suffering" that billionaire-Trump has experienced haha.

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How many would get back up after narrowly dodging an assassins bullet?

Yea, didn't think you had much answer for that.

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Wow....so Trump s the only person who has ever had a gun fired at them and somehow pushed forward?

Did you forget soldiers, police, victims of violence, etc.? Just because they don't reap billions in their jobs doesn't make their suffering any less tangible.

Hope that helps.

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I said assassin. Such a weak arse strawman. At least try.

And what billions is Trump reaping by being POTUS? Don't be shy, let the orange man bad flow…

Pylon Cam said:

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Part of the agreement is that the irs will never be able to audit Trump or his family again, meaning that they are quite literally able to commit tax fraud without the government being able to find out about it. It was an unfathomable conflict of interest that Trump administration attorneys were the ones defending the government against Trump's lawsuit. This is a deeply corrupt administration…they're adding to the swamp.

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Completely corrupt. They are so corrupt they are committing crimes in the future!

Thanks thought police. Again, just cause your party, or maybe even you would do it, doesn't mean Trump is going to.

Man you libs make it so obvious your commitment to cheating.

If it's good for Trump, it will no doubt be good for all politicians. Only way to prevent targeting on both sides is to give politicians tax exempt status for life.

Probably the only law that will ever sail through with 100% agreement. Well, if they actually paid taxes. Which they don't. And if laws applied to them, which they don't.

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Part of the agreement is that the irs will never be able to audit Trump or his family again, meaning that they are quite literally able to commit tax fraud without the government being able to find out about it. It was an unfathomable conflict of interest that Trump administration attorneys were the ones defending the government against Trump's lawsuit. This is a deeply corrupt administration…they're adding to the swamp.

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I will simply quote myself from before this new tax audit exemption annoucnement.

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So in conclusion, Trump sued himself three times, his own lawyer (Todd Blanch) settled the claims, taxpayers appear to be paying it, his hand picked commission selects who collects. And the money can flow to January 6 rioters. So it's being sold as fixing weaponization but it is, in fact, weaponization.

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The level of contortion that MAGA can do to explain away trumps fraud is impressive!

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There was a time when it would unthinkable to for this level of corruption to happen so brazenly. Whether it's this, the massive insider trading that appear right before/after major announcements on Twitter/TS, or family members getting special deals and business contracts by the government, or foreign governments.

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If it's good for Trump, it will no doubt be good for all politicians. Only way to prevent targeting on both sides is to give politicians tax exempt status for life.

Probably the only law that will ever sail through with 100% agreement. Well, if they actually paid taxes. Which they don't. And if laws applied to them, which they don't.

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Trump has paid every single dollar of tax he owes. Where do you get they don't pay taxes?

Does it feel all tingly just completely make **** up like in a Harry Potter movie?

They illegally leaked his taxes and still found nothing.

Meanwhile… I do not someone who really did not pay their taxes, who had their taxes paid by a government campaign donor, as a loan, because if not a loan that same beneficiary would not have paid taxes on the "gift". And it couldn't be a gift because that would have been an illegal campaign contribution.

But yea, Trump and his family are the cheats. Got it.

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Pylon Cam said:

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Part of the agreement is that the irs will never be able to audit Trump or his family again, meaning that they are quite literally able to commit tax fraud without the government being able to find out about it. It was an unfathomable conflict of interest that Trump administration attorneys were the ones defending the government against Trump's lawsuit. This is a deeply corrupt administration…they're adding to the swamp.

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I will simply quote myself from before this new tax audit exemption annoucnement.

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So in conclusion, Trump sued himself three times, his own lawyer (Todd Blanch) settled the claims, taxpayers appear to be paying it, his hand picked commission selects who collects. And the money can flow to January 6 rioters. So it's being sold as fixing weaponization but it is, in fact, weaponization.

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The level of contortion that MAGA can do to explain away trumps fraud is impressive!

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There was a time when it would unthinkable to for this level of corruption to happen so brazenly. Whether it's this, the massive insider trading that appear right before/after major announcements on Twitter/TS, or family members getting special deals and business contracts by the government, or foreign governments.

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How the flip is it unthinkable? Leaving aside this is not corruption, were you in the convalescent home with Biden during his four years in office?

Ok, I got a good laugh out of that. The words 'tingly' and 'harry potter' were not what I expected on a politics thread presumably with the majority being adults in their late 60's and above.

I think every, single politician is dishonest. You cannot be a successful politician and have honesty, integrity and any kind of moral convictions. If you did, you would be a failed politician.

48 but I like to pretend to be grumpier and more retired than I am.

Politicians are sleazy. It's why I like a businessman, grandfather and community leader like Trump as opposed to career guys we had.

I"m in the same age range, just a few years older. But I have my moments where I can act like I'm 15 one minute and like I'm 75 the next (and I don't mean that in a good way haha).

I have mixed feelings on Trump. Policy wise, I like a ton of what he has done and am glad he got elected rather than Kamala, Biden, etc.

However, as a person, he's not the type of person I would ever associate with in my personal life. Just wildly different ideas about values, morals, etc. But my view on this goes for all politicians.

But I realize I'm not in the majority here. We don't vote for people, we vote for politicians and take the bad (who they are) with the good (hoping they will enact policies which benefit me).

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48 but I like to pretend to be grumpier and more retired than I am.

Politicians are sleazy. It's why I like a businessman, grandfather and community leader like Trump as opposed to career guys we had.

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Sorry to hear about your TBI. I hope your recovery goes well. T&Ps.

I have no personal interactions with Trump. I have had on occasion to speak with a couple who worked with him in business, and the consensus as an emphatic he is a good genuine person.

If many of my transgressions in life were subject if magazine articles and impeachments, people may think me to be even terribler than my TexAgs persona, so i hedge my judgment of his personal antics with that.

I appreciate your honesty and candor. And whilst I do indeed have my issues with Trump, I do give in on f16 as there is just too many that truly despise the guy because people tell him too. Even worse, some people believe he is evil. And thats just not right and needs to be fought against diligently.

It's not my job to criticize Trump. It's my job as a supporter of his (just a voter snd bible buyer) to attempt to provide facts and context when the BlueSky brigade arrives each day with their fresh of the printer Tarlov talking points.

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flown-the-coop said:

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48 but I like to pretend to be grumpier and more retired than I am.

Politicians are sleazy. It's why I like a businessman, grandfather and community leader like Trump as opposed to career guys we had.

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Sorry to hear about your TBI. I hope your recovery goes well. T&Ps.

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Thanks. Would expect nothing less from a lib than a hateful commenf.

Pylon Cam said:

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Part of the agreement is that the irs will never be able to audit Trump or his family again, meaning that they are quite literally able to commit tax fraud without the government being able to find out about it. It was an unfathomable conflict of interest that Trump administration attorneys were the ones defending the government against Trump's lawsuit. This is a deeply corrupt administration…they're adding to the swamp.

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This is actually false. The hatred for Trump has apparently caused a mass outbreak of a lack of reading comprehension. This was only for past taxes. All this means is they can't try to redo all of gimmicks they tried under Biden. Nothing prevents them from investigating future taxes if something is amiss.

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Such a corrupt admin

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Appreciate the input.

Queso1 said:

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Apparently not anymore. You're allowed to champion equal protection of the law and oppose corruption as long as it doesn't involve Trump or his cronies. Step out of line and they'll label you a lib or TDS. Or say that even though it's corrupt, it's payback for Biden admin.

They'll cast wide nets saying you didn't oppose it when Biden did it. You respond that you did actually oppose it…they don't care. They'll just toss out the same accusations again and people will star it.

These people have significant issues. I hate leftists, but these weirdos would burn the constitution to save us from leftism.

The nation is in a very bad spot. Those fighting for control now are leftists and whateverthehellthisis. Either way, we are headed towards authoritarian control.

I'm a man without a home.

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Very well stated.

Purity tests and loyalty tests are a helluva thing.

Gordo14 said:

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This is frankly the most openly corrupt thing ever done in American history and it's just happening. Just depressing the level of corruption in this administration and cult followers celebrate it. This is what the real decline of America looks like. "But he doesn't take a salary". He just dumps crypto scams, hides oil money from Venezuela in Qatar (selling the oil to donor traders from Vitol), now he just take 1.8B from the IRS, no bid contracts for labor, the privately funded ballroom that taxpayers need to pay for now, his stock trading (but Nancy Pelosi!), the insiders trading his announcements before he posts, and this disaster of a war. Honestly, you have to be a mindless cult follower to believe any of this is good for America. If only this wasn't so ****ing predictable.

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Sarcasm duly noted.