YouBet said:

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DeschutesAg said:

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The hatred for Canada and Carney by Trump and the Trump base is odd.

Mark Carney has proven numerous times to be one of the wisest, smartest, most sensible, capable fiscal managers and leaders on the planet.

He is the main reason Canada suffered very little economic harm compared to other G20 nations during the worldwide Great Recession.

Canada has an enormous amount of natural resources. It has historically under-utilized its opportunities to build out its worldwide trade relationships and diversify its export markets beyond the North America region because the USA was adjacent and reliable.

The USA had been a stable ally, friend, and reliable trade partner to Canada since the 1950s.

Trump has changed that relationship.

Carney is a big fan of the USA, but his job is to protect Canada and guide it forward.

So Carney responded to Trump's tariffs and Trump's bizarre delusional threats by charting a new course that will expand Canada's trade into many new international markets.

If the Canadian provinces stick together and stay on the path Carney has put their nation on, they'll go through some economic bumps but will be okay. In ten years, they'll be far better off than now.

Of course, most Canadians are hoping the USA eventually returns to stable leadership and being a reliable trade partner.

But they clearly see the USA is a nation which is no longer stable nor reliable until it gets past its current malaise.

They have experienced some of that same ideological sickness and malaise in their own country, but the majority of Canadians have wisely rejected it thus far.

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Good lord. You are going to choke on him if you aren't careful.

Have you delved into the shenanigans they've done to us on the trade front? There was a report / hearing back to Congress on the crap they've pulled that was posted on here a few weeks ago. There is a reason we are ending the trade deal with them.

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The animosity and hatred many far-right Trumpers have for the USA's longtime ally Canada -- and for the UK and Europe too -- is bizarre and irrational.

Carney continues to lose for Canada, ultimately. Long post:

🇨🇦 Mark Carney says don’t worry. We have 10 years of free trade with annual reviews.

He said the same thing about grocery prices. Housing. The deficit. The dollar.

Here’s what businesses actually heard today:

The most important trade relationship in Canadian history has an… pic.twitter.com/1Wmhqj5efK

— wealthmoose (@wealthmoose) July 1, 2026

Ambassador Greer's comments deserve consideration;

🚨🇨🇦 Canada is playing dirty with trade and the U.S. has had ENOUGH! 🇨🇦🇺🇸

Imagine blocking bulk fruits & veggies over "packaging" excuses while banning U.S. wine from provinces. 🍷

Ambassador Greer is officially DONE retaliation is on the table.

This 5-minute deep dive is a… pic.twitter.com/pfaU37muvH

— wealthmoose (@wealthmoose) April 26, 2026

The concerns were discarded by the Canadians.

nortex97 said:

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Carney continues to lose for Canada, ultimately. Long post:

🇨🇦 Mark Carney says don’t worry. We have 10 years of free trade with annual reviews.

He said the same thing about grocery prices. Housing. The deficit. The dollar.

Here’s what businesses actually heard today:

The most important trade relationship in Canadian history has an… pic.twitter.com/1Wmhqj5efK

— wealthmoose (@wealthmoose) July 1, 2026

Ambassador Greer's comments deserve consideration;

🚨🇨🇦 Canada is playing dirty with trade and the U.S. has had ENOUGH! 🇨🇦🇺🇸

Imagine blocking bulk fruits & veggies over "packaging" excuses while banning U.S. wine from provinces. 🍷

Ambassador Greer is officially DONE retaliation is on the table.

This 5-minute deep dive is a… pic.twitter.com/pfaU37muvH

— wealthmoose (@wealthmoose) April 26, 2026

The concerns were discarded by the Canadians.

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You should watch the video. Greer said he has very friendly, mutually respectful trade discussions with Canada. The things Tenney listed are a very tiny part of our annual trade with Canads.

And the wine thing was caused by the dumbass Trump tariffs and the threats and numerous stupid childish insults made by Trump, Miller, Rubio, and Vance. Our President did that one to us.

Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day.

📸 Jul 1, 2026#Toronto #ProtestMania pic.twitter.com/G56YTUsLjl

— Caryma Sa'd - Lawyer + Political Satirist (@CarymaRules) July 1, 2026

DeschutesAg said:

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YouBet said:

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DeschutesAg said:

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The hatred for Canada and Carney by Trump and the Trump base is odd.

Mark Carney has proven numerous times to be one of the wisest, smartest, most sensible, capable fiscal managers and leaders on the planet.

He is the main reason Canada suffered very little economic harm compared to other G20 nations during the worldwide Great Recession.

Canada has an enormous amount of natural resources. It has historically under-utilized its opportunities to build out its worldwide trade relationships and diversify its export markets beyond the North America region because the USA was adjacent and reliable.

The USA had been a stable ally, friend, and reliable trade partner to Canada since the 1950s.

Trump has changed that relationship.

Carney is a big fan of the USA, but his job is to protect Canada and guide it forward.

So Carney responded to Trump's tariffs and Trump's bizarre delusional threats by charting a new course that will expand Canada's trade into many new international markets.

If the Canadian provinces stick together and stay on the path Carney has put their nation on, they'll go through some economic bumps but will be okay. In ten years, they'll be far better off than now.

Of course, most Canadians are hoping the USA eventually returns to stable leadership and being a reliable trade partner.

But they clearly see the USA is a nation which is no longer stable nor reliable until it gets past its current malaise.

They have experienced some of that same ideological sickness and malaise in their own country, but the majority of Canadians have wisely rejected it thus far.

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Good lord. You are going to choke on him if you aren't careful.

Have you delved into the shenanigans they've done to us on the trade front? There was a report / hearing back to Congress on the crap they've pulled that was posted on here a few weeks ago. There is a reason we are ending the trade deal with them.

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The animosity and hatred many far-right Trumpers have for the USA's longtime ally Canada -- and for the UK and Europe too -- is bizarre and irrational.

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Peter Z, a Trump hater, posted the history of Canadian tariffs on US products along with the ask/give date of the associated political event.


From memory things like the US asking Canada to support Gulf War 1 and Canada saying "yes if" they could have an increase in several tariffs.


Canada has never been much of an ally. They only support us in a pay for play way. Contrast their behavior with Japan or Australia and get back to me.

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Canada has never been much of an ally. They only support us in a pay for play way. Contrast their behavior with Japan or Australia and get back to me.

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Regarding military policy, methinks that the Japanese and Australians feel more immediately threatened. None of our allies should be expected to do more for us than is in their own interests.

I think that it is also important to remember, specifically with respect to trade policy, that the world has a different shape if your next-door neighbor has a per capita GDP that is 50% larger than your own AND you have lost emigrants to that neighbor in every decade of the last two centuries.

The population of Canada is about 40 million. There are probably 10 million Americans who are "ancestrally" Canadian, including roughly 1/4 of the population of New England.

To quote the immortal wisdom of Robert Earl Keen, "leaving' never hurts as much as bein' left behind."

And then there's the emotional baggage attached to the fact that the majority of the people in government in Canada were born before the Act of Patriation.

The "51st state" bull**** is offensive, precisely because most Canadian adults can remember when Westminster could amend their Constitution.

You don't have to be a liberal to prefer stable foreign policy.

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You don't have to be a liberal to prefer stable foreign policy.

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Sure, do what we say and everything will be groovy

The difference between alliance and vassalage is material. The former respects that our allies have democratically elected governments to work out their own values.

Japan and in particular Australia have stood by our side for decades, even before the current rise in security needs. But in the short term, I'm sure China will push them further into our arms.

This is the black swan event that is starting to look very real for the Canadian consumer.

If the Canadian dollar decisively breaks below US$0.70, technical traders could target significantly lower levels, potentially into the mid-to-high US$0.60s.

The Bank of Canada faces a… https://t.co/l5BahEZrFG

— Jim Csek, CPA,CMA (@jimcsek) July 4, 2026

Soon.

The Canadian ballet stimulates … the Windsor economy.

TxLawDawg said:

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Vestal_Flame said:

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None of our allies should be expected to do more for us than is in their own interests.

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Does this apply in reverse as well? The USA should never be expected to do more for an ally than what is in our own interest?

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Yes. America is currently afflicted with a severe lack of consensus with respect to our most important national interests.

Looking at it that way, this is our democratic values duking it out with theirs and telling them they aren't cutting it. It's up to them to figure it out - or not. In any group or culture you will have alphas and your conduct must be amenable to that person, no matter how friendly you are. They are straying and we are calling them out.

Carney's always got an angle...for himself.

Bang on...🔥
Carney is advancing his carbon credit agenda.

He's rigged it so we pay for the pipeline with no real return, while he profits off carbon capture under his Net Zero agenda... reaping billions in the carbon market.
We build it, Brookfield walks with the profit.… https://t.co/4lkun8aKRG

— Canada has gone mad 🍎 (@HaveWeAllGoneM1) July 5, 2026

Our recent insistence on capricious violence is damaging our export industries.

From yesterday's WSJ:

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Authorities from France to the Netherlands are quietly removing American tech from their systems, adopting European open-source software and urging civil servants to no longer use Microsoft Teams or Office. Belatedly, they are spending hundreds of billions of dollars to try to boost Europe's own private space firms, AI companies, and data centers, to avoid leaning on U.S. juggernauts.

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At the risk of saying something stupidly naive, I think that I would prefer selling to Denmark over conquering Greenland.

That's what we want, no? If we want europe to better defend itself on its own, they kinda need to go "in-house" on this stuff. They'll still have problems with production, especially if they continue down the path of their energy policies.

But, if we want them to pick up the slack, this is a necessity

Ideally, the Germans would field a large army, carrying American weapons. And they would pay for the privilege.

Funny if true.

‼️ BREAKING: The Trump administration is holding hearings this week on 10% tariffs against Canadian goods.

Every serious country sent delegations to Washington to make their case.

Canada sent nobody.

Not a minister.

Not an ambassador.

Not a trade official.

A Canadian… pic.twitter.com/RBmcMKbVMN

— Mario Zelaya (@mario4thenorth) July 9, 2026

This week's coverage of Carney's relationship with Trump, as reported by the WSJ, is profoundly interesting on a couple of points. It is worth reading. Trump appears to have asserted to Trudeau that Trump could cause Canada to unravel by simply disavowing the 1908 boundary treaty.

Personally, I believe that a strong and stable Canada is vital to America's interest. My position is that our strength is enhanced by the strength of our allies. I also think that Trump seems perennially to underestimate the ease of destroying or displacing a government.

That said, the naturally occurring fissures in Canada are very real. I have read that only 13% of Montreal speaks English as its first language. On the streets of Quebec City, my wife complains to me that she is greeted with contempt for the fact that she does not speak French. My daughter, who does speak French, comments that Quebec City and Montreal are LARPing life in Europe. She is not wrong.

Toronto is a different culture from Quebec and Montreal, and Calgary is another planet. I have also visited Victoria, but I wasn't on the ground long enough to form an opinion of the locals.

Quebec is still walled and garrisoned. We ought to think about that. In America, Washington does not keep a barracks of infantry in the center of a state capitol, even in Richmond or Columbia. Ottawa does, and they are wise to do so. There was armed insurrection against English rule in the 1830s. The fort is right across the street from the (very Mansard) parliament building. The fort fires a cannon at noon, just in case anyone forgets that the army is there.

And all of that is to say nothing of the actual separatist political activity within my lifetime. When I was a fish in engineering, Quebec came within 2% of voting in favor of secession in a popular referendum.

For me, the "aha" moment came when I walked past the Musee des Beaux-Arts de Montreal for the first time. Out in front of the old main building, there is casting of Rodin's Jean d'Aire. That statue is a rich man's symbol of revolt against the King's government. I was shocked to see it. I took the time to explain the story to my daughter, right there on the sidewalk.

East to West, the cultural fissures in Canada are more profound than anything that we have experienced in America, at least in living memory.

Your understanding of Canada's history and present state is pretty hilarious to me, tbf. I won't nitpick it, as you're entitled to your own opinion but the tensions between the Quebecois independence movement for decades, and Ottawa/Calgary etc. are real.

Why would the US Gov't need to station troops today in Richmond, Gov. Spanberger's old dominion state, exactly? To stop what? Weird tangent, to be sure, but then again FBI SAIC Peter Strzrok infamously said he could smell republicans in the walmart's around Arlington/Alexandria.

Canada today is a mess and getting worse thanks to open borders and a leftist government that has facilitated their economic decline by mis-managing their relationship with the US.

‼️ MAJOR BREAKING: Carney is the first Canadian Prime Minister in 60 years, whose economy shrank in the first year.

Not during a war.

Not during a pandemic.

Not during 2008.

During peace.

During normalcy.

During Mark Carney.

Not slow it.

Not stall it.

Shrink it.… pic.twitter.com/DCqERMsYt7

— Mario Zelaya (@mario4thenorth) July 10, 2026

This is why they now are suing their own citizens/subjects for 'misinformation.' The truth hurts.

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That's not unfair. I once heard that, after a lifetime of study, a man can understand the politics of his own country. He can never understand the politics of another man's country.

Canada is destroying itself with Marxist globalist policies and trying to blame their failures on America refusing to continue letting them have these one way trade deals left over from the Cold War.

That's a major article of Trumps doctrine: WW2 is over, The Cold War is over, You are not rebuilding economies and Russia is not a real threat anymore. The time for you to stand up on your own instead of dependence on American tax payers long since passed.

Exactly. Regardless of the history of the people, the sustained and deliberate implosion is what can't be rationally debated.

42% of Canadian manufacturers say they have already moved production to the U.S. or are considering doing so, KPMG survey finds pic.twitter.com/wSjCWuJqR5

— 6ixBuzzTV (@6ixbuzztv) July 11, 2026

Just pointing out basic truths to them spurs emotional outrage. Thread:

I wonder If Liberals will ever grow tired of blaming Trump for conditions that pre-existed him by years... pic.twitter.com/L709yWPhgM

— Jasmin Laine (@JasminLaine) July 10, 2026

Canada will eventually go the way of the Dodo bird. Socialism is unsustainable as soon as you run out of other people's money. All socialist/communist society's implode.