Trump & Zelenskyy to meet face to face next week

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Im Gipper
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In reply to WestAustinAg • 1:07p, 8/18/25
WestAustinAg said:
Im Gipper said:
infinity ag said:
No suit. And Trump did not kick him out.


Only fools thought he might


Bless your heart. Blind rage has left you unable to see straight.


Rage at whom?

Trump was not going to kick Zelenskyy out if he wore his usual garb. That's all fodder for fools on X

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 1:08p, 8/18/25
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So ukriane must give up its land or the war won't end.


Agreed and agree with the 6 pts you outlined on the other page. The only problem is Putin is trying to claim beyond his FLOT that they can't take either.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 1:10p, 8/18/25
Im Gipper said:
WestAustinAg said:
Im Gipper said:
infinity ag said:
No suit. And Trump did not kick him out.


Only fools thought he might


Bless your heart. Blind rage has left you unable to see straight.


Rage at whom?

Trump was not going to kick Zelenskyy out if he wore his usual garb. That's all fodder for fools on X


You were wrong. The best thing to do at this moment is to just admit you were wrong. Not to torture your point into a farsical joke.
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In reply to LMCane • 1:14p, 8/18/25
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I was in the car driving home from work listening to Biden in that press conference and he literally stated

"it will depend on the type of incursion by Russia" as to the US response.

Yes, that sounds more accurate. Your memory is better than mine. Glad you didn't drive off into a ditch when he said it.

Trump would have never said such a thing. Biden invited Putin to test our resolve and Putin took him up on it.
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1:17p, 8/18/25
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In reply to WestAustinAg • 1:19p, 8/18/25
WestAustinAg said:
infinity ag said:
No suit. And Trump did not kick him out.

HE's wearing a suit...


Doesn't look like one. Could be camouflaged because he doesn't want to look like he bent over to Trump's wishes.

He should have worn a real suit, not some weird pseudo suit.

Like this.

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Im Gipper
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1:23p, 8/18/25
Put me as a "hard no" on giving Ukraine article 5 protection

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 1:29p, 8/18/25
Who?mikejones! said:
infinity ag said:
No suit. And Trump did not kick him out.




Dude is wearing a suit

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In reply to infinity ag • 1:30p, 8/18/25
Its a suit.
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1:30p, 8/18/25
On a serious note.

Trump is doing great. Met each leader separately to find their issues. Then he will probably come up with a compromise plan and get both to agree.

If he manages to do this, give him the peace prize.

However he did nothing for India and Pakistan ceasefire, but he is doing real work here.
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1:39p, 8/18/25


The definitely talked about cedeing occupied land
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1:40p, 8/18/25
No Ukraine in NATO.

No US troops on the ground.
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In reply to infinity ag • 1:45p, 8/18/25
infinity ag said:
WestAustinAg said:
infinity ag said:
No suit. And Trump did not kick him out.

HE's wearing a suit...


Doesn't look like one. Could be camouflaged because he doesn't want to look like he bent over to Trump's wishes.

He should have worn a real suit, not some weird pseudo suit.

Like this.


I just can't believe he didn't consult with you. Looks like a suit to me.
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1:47p, 8/18/25
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“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
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1:50p, 8/18/25
DJT said US troops are on the table, this is getting good.
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In reply to OldArmy71 • 1:50p, 8/18/25
OldArmy71 said:
No Ukraine in NATO.

No US troops on the ground.

Correct. There is nothing in Ukraine that warrants us putting troops on the ground.
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In reply to Burpelson • 1:51p, 8/18/25
And russia immediately said that's a no go.

Theres no way a deal gets done without American or European troops in ukriane post peace deal
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In reply to Burpelson • 1:52p, 8/18/25
Burpelson said:
DJT said US troops are on the table, this is getting good.

That is NOT what he said…
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 1:55p, 8/18/25
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Belton Ag said:
Waffledynamics said:
bobbranco said:
Waffledynamics said:
bobbranco said:
Waffledynamics said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
Their choice is to cede land or keep stuffing meat into the meat grinder. That's it.

Biden did nothing but spend billions of our tax dollars laundering money and he lifted sanctions to keep funding the Russian side. Europe has done nothing but continue buying Russian oil and fueling the war machine.

It's not our problem anymore.


Russia sure should stop being unreasonable and give up, then.


You are not a serious person.


Oh, so it's NOT unreasonable for Russia to invade its neighbors repeatedly and intentionally murder civilians, but it IS unreasonable to resist. Got it.

Thanks, serious person.


Never said that. You consistently prove not to be a serious person.

But try to continue with one of your many garbage gotchas.


Sure, sure.

I've been following the war since the beginning on this forum and I'm generally in agreement with you when it comes to this issue, but I'm just really curious what you think should be done. Do you want this conflict to end?



I do want it to end.

I want Ukraine armed more, allowing them to mount some serious offensives, take back major swaths of territory, and then force Russia to give up the South and/or most of the Donbas that it's taken since 2022. At minimum.

I want to see Ukraine either in NATO or with Western security guarantees backed by peacekeeping troops in place.

I would love to see Putin dead, but his seat in hell just has to warm up longer, unfortunately.

Sounds like you're volunteering other people to die for what you want.
I'm impressed.
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In reply to Burpelson • 1:58p, 8/18/25
Burpelson said:
DJT said US troops are on the table, this is getting good.


They'll only be used to enforce a treaty as peacekeepers in all likelihood. Hawks shouldn't get too excited
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 1:58p, 8/18/25
Waffledynamics said:
Belton Ag said:
Waffledynamics said:
bobbranco said:
Waffledynamics said:
bobbranco said:
Waffledynamics said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
Their choice is to cede land or keep stuffing meat into the meat grinder. That's it.

Biden did nothing but spend billions of our tax dollars laundering money and he lifted sanctions to keep funding the Russian side. Europe has done nothing but continue buying Russian oil and fueling the war machine.

It's not our problem anymore.


Russia sure should stop being unreasonable and give up, then.


You are not a serious person.


Oh, so it's NOT unreasonable for Russia to invade its neighbors repeatedly and intentionally murder civilians, but it IS unreasonable to resist. Got it.

Thanks, serious person.


Never said that. You consistently prove not to be a serious person.

But try to continue with one of your many garbage gotchas.


Sure, sure.

I've been following the war since the beginning on this forum and I'm generally in agreement with you when it comes to this issue, but I'm just really curious what you think should be done. Do you want this conflict to end?



I do want it to end.

I want Ukraine armed more, allowing them to mount some serious offensives, take back major swaths of territory, and then force Russia to give up the South and/or most of the Donbas that it's taken since 2022. At minimum.

I want to see Ukraine either in NATO or with Western security guarantees backed by peacekeeping troops in place.

I would love to see Putin dead, but his seat in hell just has to warm up longer, unfortunately.


Does ukriane have the manpower to mount such an offensive and to continue to defend the rest of the front?

Ill add, ukriane should be drafting all males starting at 18, if they really want their land back.

Right now, the draft starts at 25 years old.
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1:59p, 8/18/25
If this is a negotiation and you want to have leverage, you will need a few arrows in the quiver. Tariffs on countries buying Russian energy and troops in Ukraine being the two big ones, and a ramp-up in weapons being another.

With a guy like Putin, you need to have maximum leverage.

I don't like it, but here we are.

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2:04p, 8/18/25
Live stream:

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2:12p, 8/18/25
This sounds very promising.
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2:16p, 8/18/25
Good thing she was there to protect him from being bullied. (From the hallway).

LOL.
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2:25p, 8/18/25
* too good to be true

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In reply to aggiedata • 2:26p, 8/18/25
Its ai
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 2:30p, 8/18/25
Macron had three feet. Should have seen that
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2:34p, 8/18/25
I don't think I've ever seen this kind of open display of world leadership saying all of the right things on live TV…

Normally you get a press release…these introductory remarks from each party on live TV is extraordinary…
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2:34p, 8/18/25
Even "Club of Rome" war hawk Rutte has noticed:
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