Only Catholic Church in Gaza struck by shell

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Quo Vadis?
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?


Typical Protestant, worships the Jews who not only deny Christ, but whose society is described as the "Gay Mecca" of the Middle East, and then calls actual Christians gay.




I do not believe we have ANY biblical obligations to Israel or the Jewish people. I just think Muslims are infinitely worse than them. The ONLY reason I am willing to support or ally with Israel in ANY capacity whatsoever....although I would never agree to fighting their wars for them.

You seem to think you have to like one and hate the other though. And you have chosen the much more civilized, less detestable lot to hate.


No, I think you can dislike both of them. This whole argument started because you're not allowed to be upset an Israeli tank fired on a Catholic Church in Gaza, killing 3 and wounding 10.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?
Quo Vadis?
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


Here is a mosque next to the other Catholic Church in Abu Dhabi "Mary the mother of Jesus mosque"
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Little comfort for Christians in Nigeria.
Keyno
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Champion of Fireball said:

Little comfort for Christians in Nigeria.

Are we giving unlimited money and weapons to the people killing Christians in Nigeria?
Champion of Fireball
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Keyno said:

Champion of Fireball said:

Little comfort for Christians in Nigeria.

Are we giving unlimited money and weapons to the people killing Christians in Nigeria?

With the way USAID worked, I wouldn't bet against it.

But to be crystal clear.

It ain't too hard to figure out who the barbaric ****s are that need to be wiped off the face of the earth.
El Gallo Blanco
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Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?

You're being hyper literal to the point of being obtuse.

Follow this very very basic logic...despite what phrases they use for Jesus over there, if they truly believed he was the "Word of God"...they would believe that nobody enters the Kingdom EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

I simplified that post because I know that many Catholics rely 100% on their bishops to disseminate and interpret the Bible for them, and it is not your fault that you did not know about the following verse or its meaning:

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Keep going to bat and white knighting for pedophile worshipers though.
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Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?


Typical Protestant, worships the Jews who not only deny Christ, but whose society is described as the "Gay Mecca" of the Middle East, and then calls actual Christians gay.




I do not believe we have ANY biblical obligations to Israel or the Jewish people. I just think Muslims are infinitely worse than them. The ONLY reason I am willing to support or ally with Israel in ANY capacity whatsoever....although I would never agree to fighting their wars for them.

You seem to think you have to like one and hate the other though. And you have chosen the much more civilized, less detestable lot to hate.


No, I think you can dislike both of them. This whole argument started because you're not allowed to be upset an Israeli tank fired on a Catholic Church in Gaza, killing 3 and wounding 10.

I think most are saying "let's tap the breaks here" on this story so we can see how it shakes out. I am sorry, we are used to Islamists destroying Christian holy places and killing people. It is very rare for Jews/Jewish military to do so. If this was an intentional and direct attack on Christians, they need to be dealt with accordingly...and I would wait to see how Israel handles it in house first.
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Champion of Fireball said:

Keyno said:

Champion of Fireball said:

Little comfort for Christians in Nigeria.

Are we giving unlimited money and weapons to the people killing Christians in Nigeria?

With the way USAID worked, I wouldn't bet against it.

But to be crystal clear.

It ain't too hard to figure out who the barbaric ****s are that need to be wiped off the face of the earth.

Yeah I'm a Catholic so I don't support wiping groups of people of the face of the earth. You do you though
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Quo Vadis? said:

Phatbob said:

I think Gallo Blanco's point was you may have had some a-holes be aholes to you in Israel... but you were being overtly religious in your actions. If you were to do the exact same through the non-commerce common streets of most muslim countries, you would expect at least similar treatment


Overly religious….in Jerusalem? Who woulda thought

Overtly =/= Overly... read the words please.

And the Jesus in the Quran is not the Jesus of the Bible. They may have the same name, but they are NOT the same.
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Rapier108 said:

Ah how nice, the regularly scheduled "Israel is evil" thread.

It is war and stuff like this happens, but the OP is always trying to convince us that the Jews are trying to genocide Christians.

Israel has every right to defend itself. Its not evil....but its hands are bloody just like anyone in a war where innocent people, especially children are killed. I guess some can shrug things off and just go "oh well, its war". Christians who are serious about their faith do not do this.
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Quo Vadis? said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Quo Vadis? said:

fc2112 said:

WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.


Hamas should surrender and free the hostages


You're so close. What would the outcome be if Hamas surrendered and freed the hostages? What would the outcome have been if they had done so a year ago?


What do you mean im so close. The dude literally said no one had said what I just said. This weird "you just love Hamas if you don't think it's okay for tanks to attack Churches" dichotomy is strange


Guess I have to spell it out for you. You're so close to admitting who is 100% at fault for every Palestinian death and 100% at fault for it continuing today when they could have stopped by releasing the hostages and surrendering at any point in time.
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Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

Yeah, we figured that out.
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BluHorseShu said:

Rapier108 said:

Ah how nice, the regularly scheduled "Israel is evil" thread.

It is war and stuff like this happens, but the OP is always trying to convince us that the Jews are trying to genocide Christians.

Israel has every right to defend itself. Its not evil....but its hands are bloody just like anyone in a war where innocent people, especially children are killed. I guess some can shrug things off and just go "oh well, its war". Christians who are serious about their faith do not do this.

Anyone's death is a tragedy, and the death of the people in that church is no different. When it is used as a political tool to push an anti-semetic agenda, which is par for the course for some here, that is not "Christian" either.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?

You're being hyper literal to the point of being obtuse.

Follow this very very basic logic...despite what phrases they use for Jesus over there, if they truly believed he was the "Word of God"...they would believe that nobody enters the Kingdom EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

I simplified that post because I know that many Catholics rely 100% on their bishops to disseminate and interpret the Bible for them, and it is not your fault that you did not know about the following verse or its meaning:

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Keep going to bat and white knighting for pedophile worshipers though.


So, if you're keeping score; Muslims are bad because they honor Jesus but don't believe he's gone. They name mosques after him.

Jews are good because they think Christ was a criminal, and is burning in poop because he said he was God.

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Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.
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Phatbob said:

Quo Vadis? said:

Phatbob said:

I think Gallo Blanco's point was you may have had some a-holes be aholes to you in Israel... but you were being overtly religious in your actions. If you were to do the exact same through the non-commerce common streets of most muslim countries, you would expect at least similar treatment


Overly religious….in Jerusalem? Who woulda thought

Overtly =/= Overly... read the words please.

And the Jesus in the Quran is not the Jesus of the Bible. They may have the same name, but they are NOT the same.


They're literally the same. Islam is a garbled translation of Nestorian Christianity. They've got Mary, the Virgin birth, Jesus, Gabriel, John the Baptist, Joseph, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Abraham, Ishmael etc. They reference the crucifixion, if not the death.
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Phatbob said:

BluHorseShu said:

Rapier108 said:

Ah how nice, the regularly scheduled "Israel is evil" thread.

It is war and stuff like this happens, but the OP is always trying to convince us that the Jews are trying to genocide Christians.

Israel has every right to defend itself. Its not evil....but its hands are bloody just like anyone in a war where innocent people, especially children are killed. I guess some can shrug things off and just go "oh well, its war". Christians who are serious about their faith do not do this.

Anyone's death is a tragedy, and the death of the people in that church is no different. When it is used as a political tool to push an anti-semetic agenda, which is par for the course for some here, that is not "Christian" either.

Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Quo Vadis? said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Quo Vadis? said:

fc2112 said:

WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.


Hamas should surrender and free the hostages


You're so close. What would the outcome be if Hamas surrendered and freed the hostages? What would the outcome have been if they had done so a year ago?


What do you mean im so close. The dude literally said no one had said what I just said. This weird "you just love Hamas if you don't think it's okay for tanks to attack Churches" dichotomy is strange


Guess I have to spell it out for you. You're so close to admitting who is 100% at fault for every Palestinian death and 100% at fault for it continuing today when they could have stopped by releasing the hostages and surrendering at any point in time.


Hamas is not responsible for random Israeli settlers attacking Palestinians. It's not responsible for an Israeli tank attacking a church. That's like a police officer being called to the scene of a crime, randomly sexually assaulting a bystander at the scene, and then blaming the criminal.
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hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).
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Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?

You're being hyper literal to the point of being obtuse.

Follow this very very basic logic...despite what phrases they use for Jesus over there, if they truly believed he was the "Word of God"...they would believe that nobody enters the Kingdom EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

I simplified that post because I know that many Catholics rely 100% on their bishops to disseminate and interpret the Bible for them, and it is not your fault that you did not know about the following verse or its meaning:

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Keep going to bat and white knighting for pedophile worshipers though.


So, if you're keeping score; Muslims are bad because they honor Jesus but don't believe he's gone. They name mosques after him.

Jews are good because they think Christ was a criminal, and is burning in poop because he said he was God.



The Jews did not rewrite Jesus to justify their own God, who then says anyone who doesn't believe their re-written version needs to be forced into belief. Your justification for your hatred is nonsensical
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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.
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Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.
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Phatbob said:

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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.

I'm a Catholic and Israel just attacked a Church and killed Christians. Please tell me how I should feel about that as well as the appropriate amount of feelings so as to not be considered anti-semetic by you.
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Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.

I'm a Catholic and Israel just attacked a Church and killed Christians. Please tell me how I should feel about that as well as the appropriate amount of feelings so as to not be considered anti-semetic by you.


You really going to act like you're not on here every day attacking Israel and the Jews? Your "feelings" far precede this event.
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Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?


Muslims hold the prophet "Isa" in high regard, and credit him with performing miracles.

But they believe that he was NOT crucified, and was very vocal about NOT being God incarnate. They believe that Christian theology, worshipping a human being as divine, is idolatry, which is punishable by the death penalty.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.

I just ceded to the poster that it is possible that the Church was somehow a military target because it was sympathetic to Hamas. The Catholic Church does not support terrorism, so I of course don't personally believe this was happening. But for the interest of discussion I ceded it was possible. You however apparently are unwilling to admit even the possibility of Israel ever intentionally doing anything wrong ever. It's war, and people do horrible things in war- but not Israel somehow. They are uniquely always good and righteous. It's bizarre, but explains your views.
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Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.

I'm a Catholic and Israel just attacked a Church and killed Christians. Please tell me how I should feel about that as well as the appropriate amount of feelings so as to not be considered anti-semetic by you.


We get it. They crucified Jesus. It was destined to be. Let it go.
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Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.

I'm a Catholic and Israel just attacked a Church and killed Christians. Please tell me how I should feel about that as well as the appropriate amount of feelings so as to not be considered anti-semetic by you.

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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.


The Israeli government literally had a covert operation to plant bombs in American and British public areas and blame it on the Egyptians so they wouldn't leave Egypt. Look up the "Lavon affair"
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.

I just ceded to the poster that it is possible that the Church was somehow a military target because it was sympathetic to Hamas. The Catholic Church does not support terrorism, so I of course don't personally believe this was happening. But for the interest of discussion I ceded it was possible. You however apparently are unwilling to admit even the possibility of Israel ever intentionally doing anything wrong ever. It's war, and people do horrible things in war- but not Israel somehow. They are uniquely always good and righteous. It's bizarre, but explains your views.


There is a 0% chance that Israel attacked a Catholic Church solely out of hatred for Catholics, which is what you posited. It's a ridiculous notion with no basis in reality.
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BonfireNerd04 said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Quo Vadis? said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

He took a thread about Israel attacking a Church, then did maximum whataboutism to make it about his hatred of Islam

You guys seem to despise the Jews, which I think is insanely silly given the nature of Islamic countries in that region of the world (a few safe carve outs for Westerners on business not withstanding). Honestly, I am not sure i even believe that Que Vadis was spat upon while carrying his crucifix around Israel He's Catholic, so i am pretty sure he can just lie and then later confess to a closeted homosexual priest about it afterwards and maybe do a few indulgences or whatever. Who knows, he may have adopted Taqiyaa by now, given his love for Islamic nations?

You are right though, I do consider anyone who does not despise Islam and consider Muhammad to be a god forsaken genocidal pedopphile to be an idiot.


Muslims think Christ is the Word of God, Jews think he was a blasphemer who got what he deserved, and is boiling in human excrement for eternity.

Guess which one this guy likes

No, muslims believe you are a polytheistic heretic and infidel. They DO NOT believe Christ is the word of God, otherwise they would serve him and would reject the violent pedophile who forced a SIX year old girl to be his sex slave. They would know that he is THE ONLY WAY if they thought he was the word of God.

Some of them acknowledge Jesus as some sort of prophet, nothing more or less. They never think of Jesus though.


You have no clue what you're talking about. They believe Christ is the word of God, born of the Virgin Mary. He is literally referred to as "His word"

How do you just say things you have no clue about? You can't even google it?


Muslims hold the prophet "Isa" in high regard, and credit him with performing miracles.

But they believe that he was NOT crucified, and was very vocal about NOT being God incarnate. They believe that Christian theology, worshipping a human being as divine, is idolatry, which is punishable by the death penalty.


They believe he was crucified, he just didn't die.

It is not punished by the death penalty, they have a special
Category for Christians called "people of the book" and they have "dhimmi" a protected status. That's why I'm not killed for going to mass.
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Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.

I just ceded to the poster that it is possible that the Church was somehow a military target because it was sympathetic to Hamas. The Catholic Church does not support terrorism, so I of course don't personally believe this was happening. But for the interest of discussion I ceded it was possible. You however apparently are unwilling to admit even the possibility of Israel ever intentionally doing anything wrong ever. It's war, and people do horrible things in war- but not Israel somehow. They are uniquely always good and righteous. It's bizarre, but explains your views.


There is a 0% chance that Israel attacked a Catholic Church solely out of hatred for Catholics, which is what you posited. It's a ridiculous notion with no basis in reality.

Do me a favor and brush up on what the Talmud and what various influential Rabbis say about Christians. I think there's a greater than zero chance knowing these facts.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Keyno said:

Phatbob said:

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Yeah, only in your warped mind is calling attention to the crimes of Israel somehow an anti-semitic act.

It wouldn't be if it weren't the only thing you seem to care about.

I'm a Catholic and Israel just attacked a Church and killed Christians. Please tell me how I should feel about that as well as the appropriate amount of feelings so as to not be considered anti-semetic by you.


We get it. They crucified Jesus. It was destined to be. Let it go.

That is what it always goes back to with these hyper religious types, but it is really just another excuse.

What's sad about that is Jesus could have Thanosed them all out of existence when they came for him, but he didn't. He knew what had to happen, and while he wasn't looking forward to it, he wasn't going to prevent it.

And killing him wasn't very effective in the end because he rose from the dead 3 days later.

Jesus died for all people, Jews included, who pretty much made up the entire early church until Paul began to take the message of Jesus to the rest of the Roman world.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

Kvetch said:

Keyno said:

hsjnlssmith89 said:

Is it possible that a Palestinian Christian church in Gaza full of Palestinians is more supportive of Palestinians than Jews in Israel? If that is plausible, could it be that the Cstholic leadership of the church might be providing support to Hamas and has made itself a military target? Pure hypothesis with no facts, but just thinking of the possibility.

Sure I guess its possible. Is it possible that Israel attacked the Church because they actually just really don't like Christianity that much? (I bet you won't cede that is possible).


Because it's not possible. The Israeli government does not attack Christians, unlike some of those Muslim nations y'all are white knighting for.

I just ceded to the poster that it is possible that the Church was somehow a military target because it was sympathetic to Hamas. The Catholic Church does not support terrorism, so I of course don't personally believe this was happening. But for the interest of discussion I ceded it was possible. You however apparently are unwilling to admit even the possibility of Israel ever intentionally doing anything wrong ever. It's war, and people do horrible things in war- but not Israel somehow. They are uniquely always good and righteous. It's bizarre, but explains your views.


There is a 0% chance that Israel attacked a Catholic Church solely out of hatred for Catholics, which is what you posited. It's a ridiculous notion with no basis in reality.

Do me a favor and brush up on what the Talmud and what various influential Rabbis say about Christians. I think there's a greater than zero chance knowing these facts.


Like I said, your cognitive dissonance is terminal.
 
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