Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

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I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

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I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

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What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

Also, nobody likes to see churches hit. It's a war. Nobody likes seeing any part of war. Maybe ask yourself why Hamas started this war instead of being the type of useful idiot that buys into the narrative they sought to create.

Quo Vadis? said:

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I am deeply saddened to learn of the loss of life and injury caused by the military attack on the Holy Family Catholic Church in #Gaza. I assure the parish community of my spiritual closeness. I commend the souls of the deceased to the loving mercy of Almighty God, and pray for…

— Pope Leo XIV (@Pontifex) July 17, 2025

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I am also deeply saddened Hamas started this war and still refuses to give up their hostages and surrender.

Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

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What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

AND how I was treated in Ramallah

Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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You want me to go to Gaza? Ha. I feel like I'd probably be killed by Israel in an "accidental" strike, and you'd then blame me for my death because I went to a warzone

Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

---

Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

---

Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

---

That certainly is one narrative

---

It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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You want me to go to Gaza? Ha. I feel like I'd probably be killed by Israel in an "accidental" strike, and you'd then blame me for my death because I went to a warzone

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Your cognitive dissonance appears to be terminal.

Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

---

Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

---

That certainly is one narrative

---

It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

---

It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

I would share my experiences in Israel, but....

I was working as a tech specialist training IDF personnel, so I was treated like royalty. They even knew I was Catholic and couldn't have cared less.

Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

---

Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

---

That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

---

It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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Makes me wonder what you were doing.

Seamaster said:

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It was an "accident."

Israel, more and more I am coming to believe, is a nation hell bent on destroying.

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Hamas could surrender and release the hostages.

So, did the "shell" say "Made in Israel" on it?

Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

---

It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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No one here is going to believe that except the people who share your views.

Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

---

Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

---

It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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Makes me wonder what you were doing.

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"Carrying a crucifix in public" during a living stations of the cross

Rapier108 said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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Kvetch said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

---

I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

---

I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

---

What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

---

That certainly is one narrative

---

It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

---

It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

---

I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

---

Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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No one here is going to believe that except the people who share your views.

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Or anybody who reads the news.

WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

Quo Vadis? said:

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Kvetch said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

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How do you accidentally shoot a church with a tank?

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You locate that church in an active war zone full of terrorists that notoriously take refuge behind the most innocent to use them as human shields.

Every life lost in this conflict is the fault of Hamas. Full stop. Any honest person with half a brain knows that. Of course, we also know your agenda, and it's pretty pathetic that you're jumping on something like this to imply that the Jews are seeking to attack Catholics just for the hell of it.

The **** that you preach doesn't align with the God you profess to follow, so maybe you should self reflect and repent of the hatred in your heart. It's vile and pathetic.

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You locate that church in an active war zone? It has been there for 50 years?

There are many many lives lost that are the fault of Israel. Many of them. This "we're 100% blameless for anything done to anyone because Hamas is bad" is idiotic.

I don't know why you think my God would look favorably upon Christians being killed in a church by tank fire……can you explain that?

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None of these lives would have been lost if Hamas didn't start the war on October 7. They've also prolonged it by refusing to surrender and give up the hostages. Every death is 100% the fault of Hamas.

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Rapier108 said:

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Ah how nice, the regularly scheduled "Israel is evil" thread.

It is war and stuff like this happens, but the OP is always trying to convince us that the Jews are trying to genocide Christians.

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You can define or distort it anyway you choose, but the government of Israel is killing every single thing moving within the borders of Gaza (and outside of it), with seemingly no discrimination. They have also leveled every usable piece of infrastructure there too. Probably to kill people the much cheaper, but old fashioned way via starvation and horrible conditions. Its a much easier discussion on what to do with Gaza, once you just kill every last thing in it. Hamas has been dead and gone since Sinwar, but Israel still has "work to do". I suspect Israel will treat the rest of the Gazan population like China treats its Uyghur population - persecution, camps, death.

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BlackGold would scream Mizzou, the birthplace of the SafeSpace. You guys are a scourge on society

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

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I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

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I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

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What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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How awful. That's practically the Spanish Inquisition!

Quo Vadis? said:

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How do you accidentally shoot a church with a tank?

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Oh, and the lie about being spat on by jews for wearing a crucifix while walking the Via Dolorosa...anyone who's been there knows it's through the Muslim quarter, not the Jewish quarter. Having walked it myself, the narrow paths through the Muslim souks was definitely the most hostile portion of the entire old city. LOL at blaming that on the Jews.

Israel is as bad at genocide as Covid was at pandemic.

If you are an anti-Semite and you know it....

Clap your hands.

Israel's response and approach has been extraordinarily humane, given what they are responding to and who they are up against. What was the overal population of gazans pre and post Oct 7. Tells you all you need to know.

The God of the OT would have told them to wipe out every pedophile worshiping man, woman and child.

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WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

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Hamas should surrender and free the hostages

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Quo Vadis? said:

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How do you accidentally shoot a church with a tank?

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Oh, and the lie about being spat on by jews for wearing a crucifix while walking the Via Dolorosa...anyone who's been there knows it's through the Muslim quarter, not the Jewish quarter. Having walked it myself, the narrow paths through the Muslim souks was definitely the most hostile portion of the entire old city. LOL at blaming that on the Jews.

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Ah yes those rascally Muslims

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WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

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These people literally hate Jews...in the same way liberal zealots hate conservative Christians.

That explains the nonsensical aliance between "queers for radical Islamists" and "white nationalist Christians for radical Islamists". Enmy of my enemy is my friend.

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Ah how nice, the regularly scheduled "Israel is evil" thread.

It is war and stuff like this happens, but the OP is always trying to convince us that the Jews are trying to genocide Christians.

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You can define or distort it anyway you choose, but the government of Israel is killing every single thing moving within the borders of Gaza (and outside of it), with seemingly no discrimination. They have also leveled every usable piece of infrastructure there too. Probably to kill people the much cheaper, but old fashioned way via starvation and horrible conditions. Its a much easier discussion on what to do with Gaza, once you just kill every last thing in it. Hamas has been dead and gone since Sinwar, but Israel still has "work to do". I suspect Israel will treat the rest of the Gazan population like China treats its Uyghur population - persecution, camps, death.

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Wow.

Absolute fantasy land.

Just ridiculous how indoctrinated and lost a seemingly educated adult can get.

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It's always interesting to see when the far right and the far left meet each other and hold hands in their shared hate for Israel...

GAZA

The funerals of two of the three Christians killed in Israeli attacks are taking place

Both of those being buried now were Orthodox Christians pic.twitter.com/CEeIvl7p5S

— Catholic Arena (@CatholicArena) July 17, 2025

Memory Eternal

Sources are claiming the attack may have been revenge against the church for speaking out against settler violence last week.

BREAKING

Sources close to 'The Pillar' have stated that the killing of three Christians in an attack on Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza may have been REVENGE for church leaders speaking up on Israeli attacks against Christians in Taybeh last week pic.twitter.com/E3KIJlncuh

— Catholic Arena (@CatholicArena) July 17, 2025

Quo Vadis? said:

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fc2112 said:

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WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

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Hamas should surrender and free the hostages

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You're so close. What would the outcome be if Hamas surrendered and freed the hostages? What would the outcome have been if they had done so a year ago?

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I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

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AHA HAAHAHA AHAAHAAHA

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It was an "accident."

Israel, more and more I am coming to believe, is a nation hell bent on destroying.

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Well, they are bent on destroying Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian nuclear program. They are bent on stopping the genocide against their Druze allies in Syria by the Bedouin and Islamists. If they wanted to truly genocide the people of Gaza, they would use chemical weapons, like Arab regimes in Syria and Iraq have done.

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Nah, they would bomb them to bits and pieces while starving them. Just like they are doing now.

I don't care that they are going to wipe these people off the planet. It's not my problem, I can't stop it.

But this is a genocide. They killing everything big enough to die.

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If it was genocide, they wouldn't warn the innocent civilians to leave the area before attacking. If they are trying to commit genocide, they aren't very good at it.

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Sources are claiming the attack may have been revenge against the church for speaking out against settler violence last week.

BREAKING

Sources close to 'The Pillar' have stated that the killing of three Christians in an attack on Holy Family Catholic Church in Gaza may have been REVENGE for church leaders speaking up on Israeli attacks against Christians in Taybeh last week pic.twitter.com/E3KIJlncuh

— Catholic Arena (@CatholicArena) July 17, 2025

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Firstly, Catholic media isn't exactly a non-biased source.

And second, I'm supposed to believe that the Israeli military intentionally bombed a Catholic Church because of recent condemnation by Catholic leaders. So the Catholic Church persecuted Jews for centuries but this strong condemnation is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Who am I kidding, this is rock solid logic.

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fc2112 said:

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WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

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Hamas should surrender and free the hostages

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You're so close. What would the outcome be if Hamas surrendered and freed the hostages? What would the outcome have been if they had done so a year ago?

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"But someone from America got spat on once in Jerusalem, and then another time someone was mean to a Christian tourist...yeah, these same tourists would be in grave danger just walking down the streets of Gaza, or any devoutly muslim country/region, but come on, I think being spit on or verbally harrassed is a little worse than rape/torture/death don't ya think?"

Even though we all know that if the Islamic savages stopped being violent, there would be no violence from Israel, you can never get the Israel/jew haters to cede this.

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Go to excuse for Israel:
1. Accident
2. Church was secret Hamas base

Nothing to see here

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Yeah, no such things as accidents. I mean, our military routinely has accidents, and every other country in the world as well, but not THE JEWS. Surely this was an intentional, planned act of hostility and aggression towards Christianity and The West. No other possible explanation.

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I know. I regularly see Israel accidentally blow up civilian infrastructure and kill civilians. That's why I said they will claim accident.

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Our military has never accidentally destroyed structures or killed innocent people...we are batting a thousand.

Look, you guys could be right, this could be an intended attack on Christians/Christianity/The West. It certainly should be deeply investigated inside and out.

But the fact that people don't even consider it a possibility is what I am responding to. Every single thing the Jews do has to be bad/malevolent/orchestrated in some people minds...no other possible explanation. Destroying a Catholic church makes no sense and seems like something that would make Bibi VERY upset, for obvious reasons.

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I think it comes down to pattern recognition. You can only see so many of these "accidents" before saying to yourself "OK what is going on here?" At least, if you are being impartial and objective.

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What a joke. Israel has conducted one of the most targeted wars and minimized civilian casualties in one of the most densely populated areas imaginable on a scale never before seen in modern warfare. They take steps no other military takes to protect civilians.

Your propaganda is laughable.

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That certainly is one narrative

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It's the truth, easily visible to anyone that's not an idiot on the level of Candace Owens or Nick Fuentes. But we all know you have hate in your heart that prevents you from thinking rationally. Go touch grass. Might keep you from believing Goebbels-level propaganda.

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It is true I hate to see Catholic Churches hit with tank fire from Israel. I'm sorry, but I've just seen too many reports of Israel destroying infrastructure and killing civilians to buy into the "Israel takes steps to minimize civilian deaths" narrative. Basically every day we have a topic on this where Israel did some other questionable strike.

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I can't help you if you refuse to look at actual facts. Maybe go to Gaza and see for yourself. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms by the folks you so ardently defend on a daily basis.

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Let me tell you how I've been treated by Jews in Jerusalem.

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Go ahead. There's plenty of people here who have been to Jerusalem, so I'm sure your "truth" is the narrative we are all missing.

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They were absolutely awful, crowding us and pushing us, spitting, all because we were carrying a crucifix in public.

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Were you yelling at the Jews "You killed Jesus!"? Because that would be totally in character.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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fc2112 said:

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WHY IS IT no one criticizing Israel ever agrees Hamas should surrender and free the hostages?

If there is concern for the lives and welfare of the "Palestinian" people, this is the clearest path forward to ending their suffering.

Even Hitler's generals surrendered as soon as Hitler was dead to alleviate the suffering of the German people. But Hamas hangs on.

No one criticizing Israel will admit Hamas and their desire to retain power at the expense of the suffixing of their people is the problem.

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Hamas should surrender and free the hostages

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You're so close. What would the outcome be if Hamas surrendered and freed the hostages? What would the outcome have been if they had done so a year ago?

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What do you mean im so close. The dude literally said no one had said what I just said. This weird "you just love Hamas if you don't think it's okay for tanks to attack Churches" dichotomy is strange