Cruz on Tucker (Iran)

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Go look at his history! This is not new.

When he was on CNN, he was the squishy bowtie wearing neo-con.

That he goes to Fox News, and is a mega Trumper, even though he hates Trump and called him a demonic force

Which of those cases was he not just saying what his audience/employer wanted?

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Im Gipper said:

Go look at his history! This is not new.

When he was on CNN, he was the squishy bowtie wearing neo-con.

That he goes to Fox News, and is a mega Trumper, even though he hates Trump and called him a demonic force

Which of those cases was he not just saying what his audience/employer wanted?


He has admitted over 20 times that he was wrong in is thinking when he was on CNN and he was a Neo con.
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I know.

So your position is that he really was a neo-con back then?

If so, this is his third major transition as an adult. It just so happened to coincide with a new job. Probably coincidence, right?

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Am aware of his history. But there is no question he has shown John Stoessel and Ran Paul and Dan Bongino type moments of real courage of challenging the entrenched view or even exposing his own side.

Some of the times this wasn't what "was wanted" because they even fired him for it.

But of late he seems to have gone really over the "devil's advocate role" edge. You know the old saying, keep in mind who that means you are advocating for. Be wary.

Its a trap Defense Attorneys have to watch out for.
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Im Gipper said:

I know.

So your position is that he really was a neo-con back then?

If so, this is his third major transition as an adult. It just so happened to coincide with a new job. Probably coincidence, right?


He said it
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What a loser


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Im Gipper said:

What a loser




I think you are worked up a bit to pull this thread back up to come make this post.

I'm sure it's some dumbass thing and not "he's cool because he killed people"

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I listened to the whole interview with Fuentes. The guy can't help but make himself be hated. I occasionally thought he made a decent point on a topic and then he goes on to say Stalin is one of his favorite people (amongst other idiotic things).

Even Tucker was shocked by that. Tucker said let's get back to that in a minute because the comment was made mid conversation on a different topic. Unfortunately he never did and the interview ended shortly after. I would have loved hearing the crazy twisted logic that Fuentes would have tried to use to explain himself. Then again I was glad the interview ended when it did. I felt like I needed a shower.
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Fuentes is disgusting. He and Tucker seem to be fully aligned these days.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Fuentes is disgusting. He and Tucker seem to be fully aligned these days.


Ok, I understands you have feelings.
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The guy has said some detestable things. He's a nut.
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Im Gipper said:



I don't have any more context than the clip itself, but how is saying "Why does Cruz suddenly care?" the same thing as Tucker supporting Boko Haram and defending the murder of 185,000 Christians?

Seems incredibly disingenuous. If you're going to attack someone, do it on the merits and don't put words in their mouth.
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What is completely disingenuous is acting like Carlson is just curious about why Cruz cares about Nigerian Christians being slaughtered.

No one put words into his mouth. This is a tactic used by Carlson routinely these days. Defend the communist New York mayor, defend communist Maduro, defend Hamas, defend Iran, but attack Cruz and other conservatives.

Even if your only knowledge on the subject is this short clip, you have Carlson blowing this off as a legitimate concern with the "maybe its a really valid concern, I don't know." It would take him 2 minutes to learn it IS a very valid concern.

Instead, what does Carlson do? He puts on a freaking terrorist sympathizer and promotes their garbage:
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The Tucker Carlson guest on Friday who slammed
@tedcruz
and declared that there is no campaign of targeted killings of Christians in Nigeria, lobbyist and PR flack Robert Amsterdam, had for years represented a leading Nigerian official closely associated with Fulani Islamists including the very militias that have been slaughtering Christians in Nigeria.

Robert Amsterdam, feted by Carlson as "defending Christians around the world," represented Nasir El-Rufai, who from 2015 to 2023 was the governor of the northern Nigerian state of Kaduna, home to the bulk of Fulani Islamist militias that have slaughtered thousands of Christians.

While serving as Kaduna's governor, El-Rufai directed substantial payments to those very same Fulani Islamists (by his own admission), and he ordered numerous crackdowns that reportedly resulted in the murders of more than 100 Christians.


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Ellis Wyatt said:

The guy has said some detestable things. He's a nut.


Who hasn't? Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean he's wrong.

There's a space for voices like his. I'm not saying every single thing he says is correct but a lot of what he says is what other people are thinking but aren't willing to say.

A lot of black, Asian, Hispanic people say really extreme racist things as well. A lot of them are in Congress. A lot of them are socially accepted without question.

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Tucker is nothing more than a shill for whoever will pay him to be on his show
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Boko is not in the least defensible, even one playing as a devil's advocate hypothetical.

Watch Tucker for his interviews that draw out the other side (sometimes himself too) and not as some kind of endorsement and representative of anything. He seems to be really running off the rails into a ditch of late but the interviews themselves can be useful to hear.
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CrackerJackAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The guy has said some detestable things. He's a nut.


Who hasn't? Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean he's wrong.

There's a space for voices like his. I'm not saying every single thing he says is correct but a lot of what he says is what other people are thinking but aren't willing to say.

A lot of black, Asian, Hispanic people say really extreme racist things as well. A lot of them are in Congress. A lot of them are socially accepted without question.



By no means am I saying the guy can't say the things he is saying. I don't really care what people believe as long as they aren't infringing on my rights.

He is not mainstream, he should not be platformed by serious people, and his message is bad. Tucker should be rightly dismissed along with him.

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Im Gipper said:

What a loser



Hard to argue her pt

We need to pivot and focus all of our rage/energy against the following:

(1) White liberals (which captures most secual "jews" by default)
(2) Islamists
(3) Communists
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How is he not mainstream?
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Im Gipper said:



So Candace is clearly losing her mind in real time...with people speculating that it could be post-pardum depression/insanity, or even hyper narcissistic personality disirder.

But It is crazy to see a guy like Tucker begin to completely lose it. I am wondering if all of those years of abusing alcohol, cocaine and LSD, and just being a hedonistic deadbeat hippie have finally caught up with him?

Forget all of his ridiculous stances and arguments lately...this is a guy who thinks UFO's are spiritual forces, angels and demons, fighting some unseen war for us.

I genuinely think Candace and Tucker are losing their minds. It's sad to see, but hard to sympathize with them when they are behaving this way.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Im Gipper said:

What a loser



Hard to argue her pt

We need to pivot and focus all of our rage/energy against the following:

(1) White liberals (which captures most secual "jews" by default)
(2) Islamists
(3) Communists

True to a point.

The thing to realize is that the idea you can't speak of correct approaches because an incorrect person also talks about them is silly and counterproductive, and it is is a Left Progressive and MSM concept closely related to Political Correctness.

Like you say, all three of those have made themselves a threat to Western Civ as we know it. This realization is not disqualified because someone like Fuentes also cites it.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

CrackerJackAg said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The guy has said some detestable things. He's a nut.


Who hasn't? Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean he's wrong.

There's a space for voices like his. I'm not saying every single thing he says is correct but a lot of what he says is what other people are thinking but aren't willing to say.

A lot of black, Asian, Hispanic people say really extreme racist things as well. A lot of them are in Congress. A lot of them are socially accepted without question.



By no means am I saying the guy can't say the things he is saying. I don't really care what people believe as long as they aren't infringing on my rights.

He is not mainstream, he should not be platformed by serious people, and his message is bad. Tucker should be rightly dismissed along with him.




Wouldn't you demanding he not be platformed be infringing on his rights? A lot of people like what he says. Tyranny of the majority (minority probably)?

Should you lose your job if someone doesn't like what you think?
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Loser trying to be controversial, comes across as moronic.


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Tucker is one step away from saying Hitler was the good guy in WWII.

Only a matter of time until it happens.
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Im Gipper said:

You don't need to know the exact population count or the precise percentage of Persian in their DNA.

All you have to know is that it's an oppressive Islamic regime widely hated by its people, murders its women for showing two strands of hair, tried to assassinate President Trump multiple times, were actively pursuing and close to acquiring nuclear weapons, and are funding and supporting terrorists worldwide.




Ted Cruz is a national treasure. Tucker Carlson is a grifting loser.

Well said, concise and very to the point and accurate.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

You've listed reason why to do it but you should know basic demographics to plan the outfall of overthrowing a government.

Ted Cruz wasn't planning it but supports destroying an Islamic terroristic regime that funded the burning of babies alive, raping children in front of their parents then killing them, and a lot more horrific acts.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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It not really debatable anymore about Carlson being a POS liar, the only question is "why did he chose this heel turn?"




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$$$$ and clicks
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Who all here is supporting Teddy for pres 2028?!
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Who all here is supporting Teddy for pres 2028?!


Ted has been grifting for the past 20+ years, now he's taken it up a notch since that AIPAC money is flowing.

I won't vote for another professional politician for as long as I live. They are all scum and can't be trusted. If you are a professional politician you have prostituted yourself for money and influence and almost always to the detriment of their constituents - it's the only way you can stay in power.
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Im Gipper said:

It not really debatable anymore about Carlson being a POS liar, the only question is "why did he chose this heel turn?"





The difference in those two videos is night and day.

The first is insane, there is really big hole in it, and illustrates Ted's point well.

The second, from Shadow of Ezra ---- there is more truth to that than not.

Its amazing that someone like him can't stabilize ---- the opportunist grifter interpretation is starting to win over imo, with a dash of his true beliefs probably on more local NY issues in the second.
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Teddy still pissy after Tucker embarrassed him. Tucker exposed Teddy as the Texas Senator that cares more about Israel than the State or Texas.
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The problem for Carlson in that Shadow of Ezra video is that he has shown he does not actually care about those issues.

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Tucker Carlson says it should be a "TOP PRIORITY" to criminally punish the people behind OnlyF@ns which he says is "the same thing" as a "satanic cult" - this is the same Tucker who giggled like a schoolgirl when he met Andrew Tate for a softball interview. The same Andrew Tate who openly states he made millions from online pornography, including OnlyF@ns.

Not to mention the interview took place the month after Tate was indicted in Romania on charges related to human trafficking and forcing women to create online sexual content.

Consistency has never exactly been Tucker's strong suit.






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