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had to get a new job about every other year.

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Hear about this problem a lot.

Inability to function at the same job for more than a year is a huge red flag.

Can't even function at work for more than a year and that cycle continues; it ain't gonna be long until the bell tolls for thee.

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Exactly. Five different law firms in about 10 years or so, then I helped her open up her own firm. That really became her only option.

Also, I went to her high school reunion with her. All her high school friends wouldn't speak to her. She went the bathroom, and they all came over to say hello real quick to me and left before she came back. I couldn't even tell her -- she'd be furious. Anyway, I remember thinking at the time that was a really bad sign. Same story for all her undergrad friends and law school friends. Something happened. She had a lot of close friends over the years but became insufferable.

Bad choice but she checked all the boxes on paper. Smart- top 10% at our law school, pretty, GREAT family, Christian, etc... I'm not sure what happened but I blame the hormonal imbalances by birth control for part of it. I also think undergrad at SMU warped her. She was always spending to "keep up with Jones" and that caused big arguments and problems.

Got crazy jealous too for no reason - I always had to hire really ugly legal assistants and had to be careful who I talked to.

Anywho, get a prenup gents!

We know totally different women.

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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LOL - Tanya is time traveling from 1982.


Majority of SAHM do this:

Wake up with just enough time to make sure they take their kids to school...likely still wearing pajamas
Scroll instagram for 90 minutes while drinking coffee
Spend money on items they just saw on instagram
Text husband that something is broken...that likely isnt broken
Take shower
Talk on phone to mom/sister for 2 hours while sitting down
Text husband that she has no time before picking up kids to clean house
Pick up kids in 500 dollar outfit in 80k vehicle to impress friends at pickup
Get home and order groceries online b/c she would NEVER go inside of a store
Turn on TV for kids or give them a screen at 4pm

Husband gets home at 5 (leaving work early)
Thank god he is home - time to put on a moomoo
She immediately takes screens away from quiet kids and tells husband to play with kids b/c she is worn out
Makes a overbearingly messy recipe for dinner while cleaning zero
Complain all dinner long about how no one is eating her eggplant parm (sorry babe. 8 year olds dong like eggplant. only an idiot wouldnt know this)
Scream at the kids for not sitting quietly at the table for 45 minutes and tell her husband he has to bathe them and put them to bed b/c she is too tired

Kids are in bed and netflix is on...oh wait - grocery delivery!
Husband get groceries that she paid giant markup and delivery fee on b/c he 80k SUV couldnt to get in person
He them puts them away b/c she is too tired

He showers hoping to get lucky
She binges netflix until 11pm and complains that the food has been put away incorrectly and that the dishwasher is loadied incorrectly from husbands cleaning of dinner


She doesnt shower, goes to bed dirty and tells her husband to shut up about his day and stop touching her
she rolls over, then decides she forgot to tell him that she wants him to do 50 chores tomorrow b/c she doesnt have time.


i dare anyone in suburbia to challenge this.

when the kids start playing sports she is mad that the kids arent better at sports and that the husband spends too much time playing with them and should just buy lessons b/c the husband is old, fat, balding, and not as good as the local junior college dropout at d-bat.

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I don't know what planet you're living on but I've never seen a single instance of this.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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Those numbers get skewed by the number of men willing to leave and separate, but won't do the paperwork, leaving the woman to handle it.

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Women will say anything to defend other women and their poor behavior.

Even if it is factually incorrect.

This thread is a masterclass of how women avoid accountability at all costs.

Fact: college educated women initiate divorce 90% of the time.

Fact: the most common reason on divorce petitions: irreconcilable differences.

Translation: He didn't hurt me. I just wasn't happy.

Fact: 35%-40% of women over 30 are on some form of antidepressants, anti-anxiety, or other psychotropic medication.

Fact: family courts favor the woman when it comes to custody and asset split.
^^there are studies that show this^^

It is impossible to not see a trend here unless your position is one of willful and carefully studied ignorance because the truth would not fit with the narrative you are pushing.

Any dude with assets wpuld be an absolute MORON to go into a marriage without a prenuptial in place when all of this is taken into account.

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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Those numbers get skewed by the number of men willing to leave and separate, but won't do the paperwork, leaving the woman to handle it.

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Women will say anything to defend other women and their poor behavior.

Even if it is factually incbehavior.

This thread is a masterclass of how women avoid accountability at all costs.

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What it proves is that, as the saying goes, p*ssy is undefeated in the history of mankind.

Too many dudes ignore red flags and marry chicks who are clearly out-of-bounds on the hot-crazy matrix.

Yep. This scenario is extremely rare...but maybe in some neighborhoods it happens more than in the rest of the country.

I've been married twice, divorced twice, and not something to be proud of at all.

I did end up pretty good , never had to pay alimony, and in the first marriage she wanted me to have full custody of the kids and just have visitation. Sadly, she had experienced a lot of trauma, neglect and abuse in her family of origin. She filed for the divorce.

2nd marriage was 16 years, but every little thing I did led to critical comments and a very negative outlook on life. Biggest problem was I am sorta messy and disorganized, but she had lots of allergies and and kept using all these nostrums and supplements which never really worked after the placebo effect ended. I ended up filing for the divorce, she did not contest anything and I kept what was mine and she kept what was hers, so fairly amicable.

Now I'm on the deferred retirement from fedgov, and have 2 cats for company, and I'm pretty darn content.
I'm highly unlikely to ever get married again at my age.

Just pray together and for each other regularly. Go to church together and there is very little chance you divorced.

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Don't marry crazy people

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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I'm not even against families that decide that the wife's job is going to be 100% mom.

I just think that there are better ways to address the problem above than "I'm sick of this, I'm leaving and taking half our assets".

The vows typically go: "To have and to hold, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and health, to love and to cherish, until death do us part."

I feel like a wife that has tried for many years to get the husband to listen about how he is no longer "cherishing" her through couples therapy, and he won't participate or change, likely has a good case for an at-fault divorce.

I can tell you from the stories of friends, both men and women, that this is almost always not how that goes down.

Making failure to live up to marriage vows for the leaving party seems equitable to me.

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We have also fallen away from understanding what a vow is. Today, I'd say most people see it as just a really, really strong promise instead of invoking God as THE witness to your promissory oath. You are making the vow to him more than your spouse.

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I think you overestimate what most people think is a marriage vow.

I think most people think of it as a promise that I will be faithful to you while we are together, but that whole "till death do us part" thing is contingent on me being happy with you.

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If a man were

- not a Christian,
- decent looking,
- and had other desirables

I would advise that man to never get married. It's not worth the risk.

Just live with someone - short of common law marriage - until that ends (if it does) and move to the next one.

Females are bat **** crazy imo.

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This is where I am at, and where the world is moving.

I don't think that this is good for society, women, men, procreation, and ESPECIALLY kids.

I mean, I think Musk has it pretty well figured out.

We are just going to go back to Biblical times where the rich men have serial harems.

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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I'm not even against families that decide that the wife's job is going to be 100% mom.

I just think that there are better ways to address the problem above than "I'm sick of this, I'm leaving and taking half our assets".

The vows typically go: "To have and to hold, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and health, to love and to cherish, until death do us part."

I feel like a wife that has tried for many years to get the husband to listen about how he is no longer "cherishing" her through couples therapy, and he won't participate or change, likely has a good case for an at-fault divorce.

I can tell you from the stories of friends, both men and women, that this is almost always not how that goes down.

Making failure to live up to marriage vows for the leaving party seems equitable to me.

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The government has absolutely no business trying to adjudicate whether somebody has lived up to the terms of an ambiguously worded verbal contract between two people.

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The government has absolutely no business trying to adjudicate whether somebody has lived up to the terms of an ambiguously worded verbal contract between two people.

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I tend to agree.

But, the government used to do that, though. In a society where everyone had equal expectations on what marriage should be, it worked.

It no longer works for the US. I'm not saying that is either good or bad, but that is the truth.

Also, for a while, social stigma did the job of making "till death do us part" meaningful even when we had no-fault divorce. Now, neither the government nor society does that.

Which is why a pre-nup that makes the "till death do us part" thing crystal clear so important now, where it wasn't that important in the past.

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

I don't think those two things have to be mutually exclusive either.

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You're a love stricken idiot if you get married today without prenup.

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I think with most people that's unnecessary. Most rational people can come to an agreement. Don't marry crazy people or *******s.

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If they are mad enough to get a divorce then they are no longer rational. Just not how it works.

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Anger doesn't always play into it. Sometimes it's just growing apart or different goals. Or it could be a bad situation where one of the spouses is literally beating up the other and they don't want be abused anymore.

People are not irrational because they get divorces. I'm shocked that any rational human being would type something like that.

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Everyone is rational until the wife talks to a divorce lawyer. Lawyers don't make a lot of money when a couple peacefully splits.

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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I'm not even against families that decide that the wife's job is going to be 100% mom.

I just think that there are better ways to address the problem above than "I'm sick of this, I'm leaving and taking half our assets".

The vows typically go: "To have and to hold, for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and health, to love and to cherish, until death do us part."

I feel like a wife that has tried for many years to get the husband to listen about how he is no longer "cherishing" her through couples therapy, and he won't participate or change, likely has a good case for an at-fault divorce.

I can tell you from the stories of friends, both men and women, that this is almost always not how that goes down.

Making failure to live up to marriage vows for the leaving party seems equitable to me.

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The government has absolutely no business trying to adjudicate whether somebody has lived up to the terms of an ambiguously worded verbal contract between two people.

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Absent of infidelity, crime of moral terpitude, and abuse, the person filing to break a contract typically has to pay an exit fee unless the contract was broken by some offense.

You want to reduce divorce rates?

The person filing a no fault divorce should not be entitled to a 50/50 split.

20% exit fee.

70/30 in favor of the party getting filed on.

Make people take marriage seriously again

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

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I remember people calling Mackenzie Bezos a gold digger for what she got in the divorce.

It is funny how some think no woman deserves money after a divorce.

I agree government should have no say in the reason for the divorce. But if the government then gets to dictate certain terms of the divorce if the spouses can't agree themselves, then that changes it slightly. The lopsided way women are favored soooo heavily in custody issues makes me sick to my stomach. Good fathers kept from their kids because society and the courts assume they'd be better off with mom. Dad practically broke because of insane child support payments that mom is using to fund her own lavish lifestyle. I've seen much more entitled behavior from ex-wives towards their former spouses than the reverse.

And perhaps I'm just biased bc a) my mother was one of those SAHMs eating bon bons & watching tv, making the kids do all the chores, and complaining about dad (not that my dad was a saint by any means), and b) I see firsthand how lopsided custody arrangements have hurt my husband's relationship with his daughter. Parental alienation is a b*tch.

Tanya 93 said:

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We know totally different women.

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^^the women Tanya knows^^

swimmerbabe11 said:

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I don't think those two things have to be mutually exclusive either.

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"The only way I believe you are truly committed to us is if you take on an enormous financial risk. I could eliminate this risk by signing a piece of paper that won't be detrimental to either one of us... but I won't."

I think that calls into question the principals and philosophy of the person unwilling to consider signing it far more than the person proposing it.

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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The way I look at it, if I am being asked to gamble my entire future on you I shouldn't be asked to gamble my past on you as well.

Tanya 93 said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

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I remember people calling Mackenzie Bezos a gold digger for what she got in the divorce.

It is funny how some think no woman deserves money after a divorce.

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I don't think many (any?) on this thread are saying that, and I'm not sure what the Bezos example pertains to?

Tanya 93 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

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I remember people calling Mackenzie Bezos a gold digger for what she got in the divorce.

It is funny how some think no woman deserves money after a divorce.

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She was with him prior to Amazon and helped him start his company shipping things out of their garage. She deserved half.

The issue is the women who came on board AFTER the millions were made.

Proposition Joe said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

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I remember people calling Mackenzie Bezos a gold digger for what she got in the divorce.

It is funny how some think no woman deserves money after a divorce.

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I don't think many (any?) on this thread are saying that, and I'm not sure what the Bezos example pertains to?

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That she was called a gold digger regardless of their marriage.

Tanya 93 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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It is my theory that if you aren't willing to gamble half of everything you have on your spouse, then you probably aren't sure enough to be marrying that person.

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And it's some people's theory that if your spouse balks at the idea of you protecting the assets you had before you even met them, then that's pretty telling.

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I remember people calling Mackenzie Bezos a gold digger for what she got in the divorce.

It is funny how some think no woman deserves money after a divorce.

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I don't think many (any?) on this thread are saying that, and I'm not sure what the Bezos example pertains to?

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That she was called a gold digger regardless of their marriage.

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I'm sure there's countless chauvinistic men out there that were yelling that. But don't just assume all educated people felt that way. She was there for much of the creation of the wealth. I can't tell you how much she deserved, but it's not unreasonable at all for her to get a percentage.

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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LOL - Tanya is time traveling from 1982.


Majority of SAHM do this:

Wake up with just enough time to make sure they take their kids to school...likely still wearing pajamas
Scroll instagram for 90 minutes while drinking coffee
Spend money on items they just saw on instagram
Text husband that something is broken...that likely isnt broken
Take shower
Talk on phone to mom/sister for 2 hours while sitting down
Text husband that she has no time before picking up kids to clean house
Pick up kids in 500 dollar outfit in 80k vehicle to impress friends at pickup
Get home and order groceries online b/c she would NEVER go inside of a store
Turn on TV for kids or give them a screen at 4pm

Husband gets home at 5 (leaving work early)
Thank god he is home - time to put on a moomoo
She immediately takes screens away from quiet kids and tells husband to play with kids b/c she is worn out
Makes a overbearingly messy recipe for dinner while cleaning zero
Complain all dinner long about how no one is eating her eggplant parm (sorry babe. 8 year olds dong like eggplant. only an idiot wouldnt know this)
Scream at the kids for not sitting quietly at the table for 45 minutes and tell her husband he has to bathe them and put them to bed b/c she is too tired

Kids are in bed and netflix is on...oh wait - grocery delivery!
Husband get groceries that she paid giant markup and delivery fee on b/c he 80k SUV couldnt to get in person
He them puts them away b/c she is too tired

He showers hoping to get lucky
She binges netflix until 11pm and complains that the food has been put away incorrectly and that the dishwasher is loadied incorrectly from husbands cleaning of dinner


She doesnt shower, goes to bed dirty and tells her husband to shut up about his day and stop touching her
she rolls over, then decides she forgot to tell him that she wants him to do 50 chores tomorrow b/c she doesnt have time.


i dare anyone in suburbia to challenge this.

when the kids start playing sports she is mad that the kids arent better at sports and that the husband spends too much time playing with them and should just buy lessons b/c the husband is old, fat, balding, and not as good as the local junior college dropout at d-bat.

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I don't know what planet you're living on but I've never seen a single instance of this.

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This is the majority of women where I live. Maybe not so much the unappreciative part but not really ever having to lift a finger other than to drive kids around is pretty spot on.

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I agree government should have no say in the reason for the divorce. But if the government then gets to dictate certain terms of the divorce if the spouses can't agree themselves, then that changes it slightly. The lopsided way women are favored soooo heavily in custody issues makes me sick to my stomach. Good fathers kept from their kids because society and the courts assume they'd be better off with mom. Dad practically broke because of insane child support payments that mom is using to fund her own lavish lifestyle. I've seen much more entitled behavior from ex-wives towards their former spouses than the reverse.

And perhaps I'm just biased bc a) my mother was one of those SAHMs eating bon bons & watching tv, making the kids do all the chores, and complaining about dad (not that my dad was a saint by any means), and b) I see firsthand how lopsided custody arrangements have hurt my husband's relationship with his daughter. Parental alienation is a b*tch.

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That is what I have been saying. Government should get completely out of the business of adjudicating anything about marriage or divorce. Make it a law that if you want to have government involved in any potential divorce proceedings, you have to have a contract drawn up and signed/notarized by both parties prior to the marriage that includes things like what happens if somebody cheats, how assets will be split in the event of no-fault separation, how custody will be handled, etc. Spell it all out ahead of time and then government will adjudicate it as a contract dispute if somebody doesn't honor the terms.

No contract? No government involvement in adjudicating or enforcing your divorce.

Tanya 93 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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Those numbers get skewed by the number of men willing to leave and separate, but won't do the paperwork, leaving the woman to handle it.

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Shhhhhhhhhh

Men are universally the victims of selfish women.
They have done nothing to cause the wife wanting to leave.

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If that reason is something other than adultery, abandonment, or physical abuse then it is not a legitimate reason for divorce.

The number of women initiated divorces would drop drastically if the system wasn't heavily weighted in their favor irrespective of the reason.

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I disagree
Caring more about work and hanging with their buddies and not doing anything around their house is not being active in their marriage.

Wanting a quick bj before they go golfing for the 3 weekend in a month is not being a good husband.

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Golfing 3 times in a month is being a bad husband? Why throw that in there? The first paragraph saying doing nothing around the house and not being active in the marriage is one thing. That makes sense. But with so many women, there is little to no balance. Heck, a wife going out and doing a hobby 3 times a month to leave the husband with the house to himself would be considered a blessing. And getting a quickie in before she does? Hell, that's an added bonus.

See this is what some of us mean. Women are MUCH harder to please, and far more emotional in their responses. They claim bad husband. So many women would be bad wives if the husband demanded as much out of her as she does him

Again, IN GENERAL. I know it's not like this for everyone.

TarponChaser said:

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evestor1 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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LOL - Tanya is time traveling from 1982.


Majority of SAHM do this:

Wake up with just enough time to make sure they take their kids to school...likely still wearing pajamas
Scroll instagram for 90 minutes while drinking coffee
Spend money on items they just saw on instagram
Text husband that something is broken...that likely isnt broken
Take shower
Talk on phone to mom/sister for 2 hours while sitting down
Text husband that she has no time before picking up kids to clean house
Pick up kids in 500 dollar outfit in 80k vehicle to impress friends at pickup
Get home and order groceries online b/c she would NEVER go inside of a store
Turn on TV for kids or give them a screen at 4pm

Husband gets home at 5 (leaving work early)
Thank god he is home - time to put on a moomoo
She immediately takes screens away from quiet kids and tells husband to play with kids b/c she is worn out
Makes a overbearingly messy recipe for dinner while cleaning zero
Complain all dinner long about how no one is eating her eggplant parm (sorry babe. 8 year olds dong like eggplant. only an idiot wouldnt know this)
Scream at the kids for not sitting quietly at the table for 45 minutes and tell her husband he has to bathe them and put them to bed b/c she is too tired

Kids are in bed and netflix is on...oh wait - grocery delivery!
Husband get groceries that she paid giant markup and delivery fee on b/c he 80k SUV couldnt to get in person
He them puts them away b/c she is too tired

He showers hoping to get lucky
She binges netflix until 11pm and complains that the food has been put away incorrectly and that the dishwasher is loadied incorrectly from husbands cleaning of dinner


She doesnt shower, goes to bed dirty and tells her husband to shut up about his day and stop touching her
she rolls over, then decides she forgot to tell him that she wants him to do 50 chores tomorrow b/c she doesnt have time.


i dare anyone in suburbia to challenge this.

when the kids start playing sports she is mad that the kids arent better at sports and that the husband spends too much time playing with them and should just buy lessons b/c the husband is old, fat, balding, and not as good as the local junior college dropout at d-bat.

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I don't know what planet you're living on but I've never seen a single instance of this.

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I've seen real-life examples of both of these descriptions.

In both of the couples, the spouses freely chose, and stayed with, each other.

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The majority of modern Women will say anything to defend other women and their poor behavior.

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Unfortunately, yes. This is true. However, I find that a large part of modern men will not say anything against other men and their poor behavior. In both cases, we need to start being vocal about traditional Christian values and morals.

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Fact: college educated women initiate divorce 90% of the time.

Fact: the most common reason on divorce petitions: irreconcilable differences.

Translation: He didn't hurt me. I just wasn't happy.

Fact: 35%-40% of women over 30 are on some form of antidepressants, anti-anxiety, or other psychotropic medication.

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I'll bet that social media has made the "I just wasn't happy" worse because so many women see the 'perfect lives' that influencers publish and think that their own lives don't measure up.

About the bolded part; its pretty common for health problems reported by women to be brushed off as "typical women's complaints", "you are getting old", or "if I had a dime for every woman patient who told me that I could retire". I'd like to see what would happen to marriages and general happiness if that 35%-40% were investigated, diagnosed, and treated to remove the need for the medications listed. Even if that treatment is something like trading a smart phone for a dumb one.

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Any dude ANYONE with assets wpuld be an absolute MORON to go into a marriage without a prenuptial in place when all of this is taken into account.

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Anyone, seriously. And if it is a second marriage or if either partner has children I would hope that all of the couple's friends would nag them until it was done.

TarponChaser said:

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evestor1 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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LOL - Tanya is time traveling from 1982.


Majority of SAHM do this:

Wake up with just enough time to make sure they take their kids to school...likely still wearing pajamas
Scroll instagram for 90 minutes while drinking coffee
Spend money on items they just saw on instagram
Text husband that something is broken...that likely isnt broken
Take shower
Talk on phone to mom/sister for 2 hours while sitting down
Text husband that she has no time before picking up kids to clean house
Pick up kids in 500 dollar outfit in 80k vehicle to impress friends at pickup
Get home and order groceries online b/c she would NEVER go inside of a store
Turn on TV for kids or give them a screen at 4pm

Husband gets home at 5 (leaving work early)
Thank god he is home - time to put on a moomoo
She immediately takes screens away from quiet kids and tells husband to play with kids b/c she is worn out
Makes a overbearingly messy recipe for dinner while cleaning zero
Complain all dinner long about how no one is eating her eggplant parm (sorry babe. 8 year olds dong like eggplant. only an idiot wouldnt know this)
Scream at the kids for not sitting quietly at the table for 45 minutes and tell her husband he has to bathe them and put them to bed b/c she is too tired

Kids are in bed and netflix is on...oh wait - grocery delivery!
Husband get groceries that she paid giant markup and delivery fee on b/c he 80k SUV couldnt to get in person
He them puts them away b/c she is too tired

He showers hoping to get lucky
She binges netflix until 11pm and complains that the food has been put away incorrectly and that the dishwasher is loadied incorrectly from husbands cleaning of dinner


She doesnt shower, goes to bed dirty and tells her husband to shut up about his day and stop touching her
she rolls over, then decides she forgot to tell him that she wants him to do 50 chores tomorrow b/c she doesnt have time.


i dare anyone in suburbia to challenge this.

when the kids start playing sports she is mad that the kids arent better at sports and that the husband spends too much time playing with them and should just buy lessons b/c the husband is old, fat, balding, and not as good as the local junior college dropout at d-bat.

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I don't know what planet you're living on but I've never seen a single instance of this.

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The only thing I disagree with is the husband has to work til 7 and never see the kids to pay for the 5 year olds private swing coach that the wife is sleeping with.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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evestor1 said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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I am not arguing for women who sit at home and do nothing.

I specifically mentioned women who work outside the home and then have to come home and do almost everything

You know
Get up at 5 am, throw laundry in the washer, prep something for the slow cooker, make breakfast, pack lunches,get the kid ready for school, drop them off at daycare and elementary school, work in a office or retail or as a nurse, pick kids up, finish dinner, throw laundry in the dryer, do dishes, shower, and go to bed.

He gets dressed, goes to work, has a lunch meeting, comes home and relaxed. Maybe read a book to the little one but is more likely to workout or play a video game. And complain she hasn't picked up his suits yet and he is tired of the same 10 meals.

She does deserve half the assets when she is doing that and he is doing little to nothing at home.

This is not about wives who do nothing until just before everyone gets home. But the women who don't get weekends to relax but dust, mop, vacuum, finish laundry, grocery shop etc.

Him doing yardwork is not equal division of things that need to be done at home. Ignoring her and her needs is wrong just like it would be for her ignore him.

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LOL - Tanya is time traveling from 1982.


Majority of SAHM do this:

Wake up with just enough time to make sure they take their kids to school...likely still wearing pajamas
Scroll instagram for 90 minutes while drinking coffee
Spend money on items they just saw on instagram
Text husband that something is broken...that likely isnt broken
Take shower
Talk on phone to mom/sister for 2 hours while sitting down
Text husband that she has no time before picking up kids to clean house
Pick up kids in 500 dollar outfit in 80k vehicle to impress friends at pickup
Get home and order groceries online b/c she would NEVER go inside of a store
Turn on TV for kids or give them a screen at 4pm

Husband gets home at 5 (leaving work early)
Thank god he is home - time to put on a moomoo
She immediately takes screens away from quiet kids and tells husband to play with kids b/c she is worn out
Makes a overbearingly messy recipe for dinner while cleaning zero
Complain all dinner long about how no one is eating her eggplant parm (sorry babe. 8 year olds dong like eggplant. only an idiot wouldnt know this)
Scream at the kids for not sitting quietly at the table for 45 minutes and tell her husband he has to bathe them and put them to bed b/c she is too tired

Kids are in bed and netflix is on...oh wait - grocery delivery!
Husband get groceries that she paid giant markup and delivery fee on b/c he 80k SUV couldnt to get in person
He them puts them away b/c she is too tired

He showers hoping to get lucky
She binges netflix until 11pm and complains that the food has been put away incorrectly and that the dishwasher is loadied incorrectly from husbands cleaning of dinner


She doesnt shower, goes to bed dirty and tells her husband to shut up about his day and stop touching her
she rolls over, then decides she forgot to tell him that she wants him to do 50 chores tomorrow b/c she doesnt have time.


i dare anyone in suburbia to challenge this.

when the kids start playing sports she is mad that the kids arent better at sports and that the husband spends too much time playing with them and should just buy lessons b/c the husband is old, fat, balding, and not as good as the local junior college dropout at d-bat.

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I don't know what planet you're living on but I've never seen a single instance of this.

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This is the majority of women where I live. Maybe not so much the unappreciative part but not really ever having to lift a finger other than to drive kids around is pretty spot on.

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I'm not saying there aren't women who barely have to lift a finger, I'm more referring to the unappreciative shrew portion who ignore their kids and don't take care of themselves either.

Get married with prenuptial agreement. Don't be a love stricken idiot.