How are we on the side of Russia? Give me 1 example. It seems we are on the side of compromise if anything. Or should we send troops to fight Russia to satisfy your political party's need for WW3??
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Teslag said:
Real heroes fight until they are dead. There's zero chance I'd ever surrender to anyone that invaded my homeland.
This has nothing to do with your personal bravado. So I guess you think Hitler is a hero? He didn't surrender.
If Germany and Japan didn't surrender we would have wiped them off the face of the planet.
Zelensky is the elected leader of a democratic nation. He cannot risk his nation's future and the lives of his innocent citizens to prove his manhood. He needs to negotiate immediately before he loses what little leverage he has left.
I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
All this banter is pointless. The fact is that Zelensky isn't getting another penny. And when European cash dries up, he's finished.
But I know no matter what the waitress brings
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
I shall drink it and always be full, yeah I will drink it and always be full
I am on the side of America. Period.
Get your hands out of my ****ing pocket!
Get your hands out of my ****ing pocket!
Like I said, anyone claiming they want to start WW3 instead of a negotiated peace is really just not wanting to admit they want another 10years of stalemate for Dems to grift before reaching the inevitable negotiated peace
Teslag said:Jay@AgsReward.com said:
It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.
How much money have we given Russia for this conflict? Stick with vaccines.
That "constitution" is not worth the toilet paper it is written on.Teslag said:Wes97 said:Teslag said:
Zelenskyy did not cancel election. Their constitution prevents it in wartime.
LOL. Yeah the dictator is just defending that bastion of liberty known as the Ukrainian constitution.
So are you a full on traitor or just an old style "useful idiot"?
So he should violate his constitution?
He can worry about the "constitution" just like he did when they overthrew the prior leader?
The idiot CNBC anchor suggested Zelenskyy has hand since he can simply call on the euros to take America's place in the war lolol
BREAKING: Trump to investigate fraud and waste in Ukraine in light of today's meeting with Zelensky, per Reuters.
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) February 28, 2025
Good
captkirk said:
Trump is right again. Of course Z doesn't want peace, he wants more taxpayer money. Glad Trump kicked him out.
As soon as the cameras went off Zelensky "was begging to stay and work things out" and Trump sent his little ass packing and told him to GTFO.
His little act for the cameras is going to end his country
His little act for the cameras is going to end his country
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Sims said:
Having been through a few very tense mediations and negotations....for those saying how this is a bad look, imbecilic, immature, show...whatever you want to call it. This is how big things happen.
Good mediators make sure everyone leaves the room upset and uncomfortable - that is how you know the middle ground was located.
What Zelensky is attempting to do is prove the mediator wrong - that rarely happens and only serves to diminish his own position.
Was not expecting an interesting and different observation in this thread. Well done
Sid Farkas said:
The idiot CNBC anchor suggested Zelenskyy has hand since he can simply call on the euros to take America's place in the war lolol
"You may test that theory and see what unfolds"
Anyone who starred this is ignorant. Zelensky is NOT even a hero to his own people. If he hadn't cancelled the election in Ukraine, he would have been voted out by a massive margin. He is a grifter who orchestrated kickbacks to Biden and misused billions in U.S. dollars. Trump and Vance were exactly right to set him strait.mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
Wabs said:
Interesting how some Americans (even on this thread) get their panties in a wad when the POTUS and VP are standing up for the UNITED STATES and putting OUR interests FIRST.
these are the same people who fly Ukrainian flags but will tell you that the US flag is offensive and a symbol of tyranny
Again…how much money has Zelensky PUT IN HIS POCKET as part of this war?
We have been getting ripped off…Americans are TIRED of the bull****…
We have been getting ripped off…Americans are TIRED of the bull****…
Putin is holding all the cards in this deal, but Zelensky acts like he owns them. That's not gonna work for a peace agreement.
Finally.45-70Ag said:BREAKING: Trump to investigate fraud and waste in Ukraine in light of today's meeting with Zelensky, per Reuters.
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) February 28, 2025
Good
General Jack D. Ripper said:
All this banter is pointless. The fact is that Zelensky isn't getting another penny. And when European cash dries up, he's finished.
This is probably correct and I also think it would be a pretty bad outcome for American foreign policy.
What is your solution?Jay@AgsReward.com said:
It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.
Link?MarkTwain said:
As soon as the cameras went off Zelensky "was begging to stay and work things out" and Trump sent his little ass packing and told him to GTFO.
His little act for the cameras is going to end his country
Bird Poo said:What is your solution?Jay@AgsReward.com said:
It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.
I think Jay should start writing personal checks to Zelensky
Y'all wanna really see how this works out? Pay attention as to whether or not Zelensky packs up and heads home, or he stays in the US…
If he stays, they will workout a deal and Trump will get what he wants out of this for America…
I predict Zelensky stays and comes groveling back and we get a deal done before he's wheels up back home…
If he stays, they will workout a deal and Trump will get what he wants out of this for America…
I predict Zelensky stays and comes groveling back and we get a deal done before he's wheels up back home…
What does the constitution say about Ukrainian generals leading a coup when they are out of military equipment to fight the Russians?
infinity ag said:
The look was bad. They should have talked this through in private. Fighting in public is not a good look.
Fight all you want inside a room.
No matter what your perspective is regarding Ukraine, this is the correct answer. The reps should have hashed all this out beforehand and you give relatively scripted comments in front of the media. Looks like amateur hour.
But he looked so convincing in his military sweater!
100% Pure Aggie said:Link?MarkTwain said:
As soon as the cameras went off Zelensky "was begging to stay and work things out" and Trump sent his little ass packing and told him to GTFO.
His little act for the cameras is going to end his country
Watch Fox News. Martha McCallum has repeated it ten times already
🚨 #BREAKING: Zelensky has OFFICIALLY left the White House after being kicked out by President Trump
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 28, 2025
According to pool reports, he was BEGGING to say.
Bye! 👋🏻 pic.twitter.com/wVNkYRgN2T
Fox News reporting Zelensky was begging Trump to stay and was basically kicked out of the White House.
— Kira (@RealKiraDavis) February 28, 2025
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Perhaps. But I think he burned that bridge to the ground. The announcement of an investigation is telling.
DTP02 said:infinity ag said:
The look was bad. They should have talked this through in private. Fighting in public is not a good look.
Fight all you want inside a room.
No matter what your perspective is regarding Ukraine, this is the correct answer. The reps should have hashed all this out beforehand and you give relatively scripted comments in front of the media. Looks like amateur hour.
Zelensky went off script and Trump wasn't going to have it.
SA68AG said:
I've never seen anything like that. I can't imagine the US continuing to support Ukraine after that blowup.
This will play very well in Europe IMO.
I'm very disappointed in JD there…offer words of appreciation to this President?
Putin has to have a smile a mile wide right now!
If Bidens and others who feel so strongly about Ukraine would donate back to Ukraine, problem solved.
Platitudes do not win wars. Sending other people's children or your own to die fighting is what it takes. Are you willing to send your own children to die for this war. Secondly, what justification does this conflict have to send someone else's child to die.
getting sick of the war mongering blood lusting commies claiming that anyone is "siding with the Russians".
If you're Russia, you sat there and watched the CIA help install an anti-Russia government next door in your former state in the maidan revolution in 2014. You sat there and watched the west put labs next door. You sat there want watched the west flirt with admitting yet another one of your next door neighbors into NATO, something they promised they'd never do, so they can be even more bold with military installations on your doorstep. You sat there and watched the corruption get worse and worse- complete with foreign elites placing their crackhead sons on the boards of their gas companies. You sat there and let a foreign "leader" bait you with "minor incursion" invitation. You know foreign meddlers sabotaged a multibillion dollar subsea energy project that was going to bring economic prosperity for both you and your western allies. You watched the US send Borris to Istanbul to prevent Lord Z from making a peace deal. All of this while knowing a large portion of the population of this former soviet state actually wants to be part of Russia and they all speak Russian. Should they have gotten so bold after watching the weakness of our Afghan exit and taken Joe Biden up on the minor incursion invitation? Probably not, but that does not make Ukraine the holy righteous good guys that need to be defended at all costs. We've paid them enough and will get zero return. Enough people have died. Both sides want peace except for the western intel and defense communities that want a russian regime change and forever wars. Russia is not a threat to the rest of Europe or the US. Make a deal and stop the killing. Keep Russia close instead of driving them closer and more dependent on China and Iran. Let them sell gas to Europe. That is not "siding with the Russians". That is the right thing to do.
If you're Russia, you sat there and watched the CIA help install an anti-Russia government next door in your former state in the maidan revolution in 2014. You sat there and watched the west put labs next door. You sat there want watched the west flirt with admitting yet another one of your next door neighbors into NATO, something they promised they'd never do, so they can be even more bold with military installations on your doorstep. You sat there and watched the corruption get worse and worse- complete with foreign elites placing their crackhead sons on the boards of their gas companies. You sat there and let a foreign "leader" bait you with "minor incursion" invitation. You know foreign meddlers sabotaged a multibillion dollar subsea energy project that was going to bring economic prosperity for both you and your western allies. You watched the US send Borris to Istanbul to prevent Lord Z from making a peace deal. All of this while knowing a large portion of the population of this former soviet state actually wants to be part of Russia and they all speak Russian. Should they have gotten so bold after watching the weakness of our Afghan exit and taken Joe Biden up on the minor incursion invitation? Probably not, but that does not make Ukraine the holy righteous good guys that need to be defended at all costs. We've paid them enough and will get zero return. Enough people have died. Both sides want peace except for the western intel and defense communities that want a russian regime change and forever wars. Russia is not a threat to the rest of Europe or the US. Make a deal and stop the killing. Keep Russia close instead of driving them closer and more dependent on China and Iran. Let them sell gas to Europe. That is not "siding with the Russians". That is the right thing to do.