Fat Black Swan said:

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boulderaggie said:

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Surprised a local pilot hasn't tried to get an up-close look for themself.

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Other people in New Jersey are also reporting their personal drones batteries dying around the mystery drones pic.twitter.com/sKew771B1C

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

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They're sucking the power away like vampires. That's why they don't need to recharge.

agcrock2005 said:

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LMCane said:

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stetson said:

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Amazing to me that, in the 21st Century, these drones cannot be detected and tracked.

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they can be

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Amazing how many Americans will just sit back and believe that nobody in our government has a clue what these things are and we're just allowing them to race around the sky above our houses. My bet is they're our drones. They're testing us out to see how much we are willing to give them.

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A lot of people on this site refuse to think critically and instead resort to the closest "what are they hiding from us?" conspiratorial thinking if they can't easily understand what is happening.

White House says these are not drones and are manned aircraft. Nothing to see here...

Lawful Drones? pic.twitter.com/s8Tr2zDG4j

— Karli Bonne’ 🇺🇸 (@KarluskaP) December 12, 2024

I just pictured George Jetson going to work.

Pepe SiIvia said:

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agcrock2005 said:

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LMCane said:

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stetson said:

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Amazing to me that, in the 21st Century, these drones cannot be detected and tracked.

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they can be

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Amazing how many Americans will just sit back and believe that nobody in our government has a clue what these things are and we're just allowing them to race around the sky above our houses. My bet is they're our drones. They're testing us out to see how much we are willing to give them.

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A lot of people on this site refuse to think critically and instead resort to the closest "what are they hiding from us?" conspiratorial thinking if they can't easily understand what is happening.

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Please explain

Houston Lee said:

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White House says these are not drones and are manned aircraft. Nothing to see here...

Lawful Drones? pic.twitter.com/s8Tr2zDG4j

— Karli Bonne’ 🇺🇸 (@KarluskaP) December 12, 2024

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There it is. Urge congress to pass more legislation to help us spend more money

techno-ag said:

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Fat Black Swan said:

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boulderaggie said:

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Surprised a local pilot hasn't tried to get an up-close look for themself.

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Other people in New Jersey are also reporting their personal drones batteries dying around the mystery drones pic.twitter.com/sKew771B1C

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

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They're sucking the power away like vampires. That's why they don't need to recharge.

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"Dying". So your very common and easily jammable commercial comms protocol reported a dead battery when your airframe got jammed out of the sky, got it.

Kind of like the swellpro and dji drones all magically lose signal and RTH when you get to close to most NASs trying to fish.

Someone earlier said that they fly DJI all the time and their battery wasn't dead, it just wasn't allowed to fly because of FAA rules, or being too close to something.

agcrock2005 said:

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Someone earlier said that they fly DJI all the time and their battery wasn't dead, it just wasn't allowed to fly because of FAA rules, or being too close to something.

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I was kidding. I used the winkie.

🚨ESCALATION: Eyewitnesses say that the drones over NJ appear to be shooting at something pic.twitter.com/N10svy7qHX

— WayneTech SPFX®️ (@WayneTechSPFX) December 13, 2024

You think someone would get a cheap drone and fly it into one of these things to see if they can make it crash.

45-70Ag said:

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You think someone would get a cheap drone and fly it into one of these things to see if they can make it crash.

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My understanding is they have tried that

45-70Ag said:

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🚨ESCALATION: Eyewitnesses say that the drones over NJ appear to be shooting at something pic.twitter.com/N10svy7qHX

— WayneTech SPFX®️ (@WayneTechSPFX) December 13, 2024

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Imagine one of those over a packed football stadium? Biden administration says don't believe what your eyes see.

Anyone have a good twitter account to follow that is covering this?

I was told these drones do not present a threat.

If they're foreign/unlnown and violating US airspace, why the hell are they not being shot down? Serious question?

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Muy said:

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I heard the size of a "hood of a car", which isn't really that insane in terms of the end-to-end length and width a drove could be. People keep thinking these droves are the actual size of cars.

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People are terrible at estimating sizes of things even in clear weather and daylight. I'm not surprised at the variance in sizes reported for these things, whatever they are.

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yes .. see plane sightings on 9/11 in Manhattan.. no accuracy...

They may have been deemed not a threat at this point, and they don't want to shoot them down. Far more likely explanation is that they're govt operated( or a contractor).

I dont think the video is the firing something, I think it's likely a lazer or some variety being hit by vapor or dust and creating the effect. Just doesn't look right, but I could be wrong.

Im curious what frequency they're operating on, and how autonomous they are. I can pretty well guarantee the .gov has that information.

The vast majority of videos we are seeing coming out from locals are airplanes. One guy posted a picture of a Cessna private jet. He got community corrected but good Lord the number of gullible people out there is not surprising but still sad.

AtticusMatlock said:

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The vast majority of videos we are seeing coming out from locals are airplanes. One guy posted a picture of a Cessna private jet. He got community corrected but good Lord the number of gullible people out there is not surprising but still sad.

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So you are telling me they are spewing chem trails?!?!? /sarcasm

The scene which keeps replaying in my mind...



Judy Witwicky: I think that if there really was some kind of alien infestation the Government would be the first to tell us.

Ron Witwicky: This is America.

Judy Witwicky: That's how we know we're in a free country. There's no secrets.

45-70Ag said:

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🚨ESCALATION: Eyewitnesses say that the drones over NJ appear to be shooting at something pic.twitter.com/N10svy7qHX

— WayneTech SPFX®️ (@WayneTechSPFX) December 13, 2024

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Community notes wins again.

People are terrible eyewitnesses. I have a pilot's license and always been an aviation buff, I've farmed and thus been outdoors all my life, I have a telescope and am interested in stars and planets.

I've never seen anything I couldn't explain.

99.9999% of this is hoax, hysteria, and mis-identifying normal flight operations.

CanyonAg77 said:

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People are terrible eyewitnesses. I have a pilot's license and always been an aviation buff, I've farmed and thus been outdoors all my life, I have a telescope and am interested in stars and planets.

I've never seen anything I couldn't explain.

99.9999% of this is hoax, hysteria, and mis-identifying normal flight operations.

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How could they be normal flight operations if the people on the ground have not observed it before?

Plus wouldn't there be on/off reports at airports?

aggiehawg said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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People are terrible eyewitnesses. I have a pilot's license and always been an aviation buff, I've farmed and thus been outdoors all my life, I have a telescope and am interested in stars and planets.

I've never seen anything I couldn't explain.

99.9999% of this is hoax, hysteria, and mis-identifying normal flight operations.

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How could they be normal flight operations if the people on the ground have not observed it before?

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People don't pay attention. Now that it's a hysteria, everyone is paying attention

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Plus wouldn't there be on/off reports at airports?

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It's not like anyone is writing down every takeoff and landing.

Even if the govt shot one down, we'll never know their findings. They'll immediately wisk it away to area 51 or something and all we'll be left with is speculative netflix documentaries in a couple of years.

aggiehawg said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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People are terrible eyewitnesses. I have a pilot's license and always been an aviation buff, I've farmed and thus been outdoors all my life, I have a telescope and am interested in stars and planets.

I've never seen anything I couldn't explain.

99.9999% of this is hoax, hysteria, and mis-identifying normal flight operations.

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How could they be normal flight operations if the people on the ground have not observed it before?

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Because the first witnesses were really seeing these:



New moveable wing design that is nothing like any other drone, takes off vertically from ships or bases, around the size of a small car, and has FAA navigation lights. The early videos show drones that look a lot like these. The company has been doing prototype testing for a while now.

Unfortunately, now that the hysteria has kicked into high gear and every person with a cell phone is taking videos of normal commercial aircraft, the early reports have been largely forgotten.

AggieHawg

I have a possible legal issue I'd like your opinion on if you have time, but don't want to get into it on here.

Email deleted

Thanks.

I am retired and cannot by law give legal advice on specific legal questions for individuals. My only advice would be to contavt a currently practicing lawyer within that field.

Apologies but have to decline.

CanyonAg77 said:

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People are terrible eyewitnesses. I have a pilot's license and always been an aviation buff, I've farmed and thus been outdoors all my life, I have a telescope and am interested in stars and planets.

I've never seen anything I couldn't explain.

99.9999% of this is hoax, hysteria, and mis-identifying normal flight operations.

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there are a TON of Air Force and Navy pilots, even on active service that go on record discussing things they cannot explain that they have seen.

one of my best friends, the only other Jewish guy in my OCS class was a DC ANG Gulfstream pilot for a decade and tells stories about UAV he would see that were completely unexplainable

What does being Jewish have to do with it?