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Interesting that the flight restrictions only apply to drones flying below 400 ft, and that there are exclusions for drones involved in emergency situations or operations with a statement of work. That last phrase sounds like a massive loophole to me. What does this actually accomplish? It sounds like all I'd have to do to avoid being subject to the restrictions is fly a drone at 401 ft. Surely that's not right.

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That's because the FAA restricts all flights to below 400 ft for Part 107 and recreational pilots.

You'd have to get a waiver or a COA to fly higher.

BTW, if you fly it at 401 ft, you've technically broken the law. The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act that just passed raised the fine for violations up to $75k per incident. The FAA can be a real ******* if they want.

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So it appears to be a ban specifically targeted at hobbyist drones, which excludes the SUV sized drones that everyone is so freaked out about. That won't fix anything. Looks like the FAA doesn't want to be a real ******* here.

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Well, it shuts down hobbyists and anyone that is doing UAS ops for a business for any reason. So, that at least clears the airspace AND you then know that any UAS flying after that have some type of nefarious purpose or they have a dumbass remote pilot.

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Some realtors may be impacted

The temporary restriction means realtors, like Brad Button, are grounded when it comes to a key marketing strategy.

"In the suburbs, we use it to show the property, and in the city, we use it to show the proximity to Center City," Button explained.

When using drones it elevates listings, he says.

"It gives an advantage to give a movie trailer feel to the marketing," said Button.

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FAA grounds drones; relators most affected.

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Interesting that the flight restrictions only apply to drones flying below 400 ft, and that there are exclusions for drones involved in emergency situations or operations with a statement of work. That last phrase sounds like a massive loophole to me. What does this actually accomplish? It sounds like all I'd have to do to avoid being subject to the restrictions is fly a drone at 401 ft. Surely that's not right.

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That's because the FAA restricts all flights to below 400 ft for Part 107 and recreational pilots.

You'd have to get a waiver or a COA to fly higher.

BTW, if you fly it at 401 ft, you've technically broken the law. The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act that just passed raised the fine for violations up to $75k per incident. The FAA can be a real ******* if they want.

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So it appears to be a ban specifically targeted at hobbyist drones, which excludes the SUV sized drones that everyone is so freaked out about. That won't fix anything. Looks like the FAA doesn't want to be a real ******* here.

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Well, it shuts down hobbyists and anyone that is doing UAS ops for a business for any reason. So, that at least clears the airspace AND you then know that any UAS flying after that have some type of nefarious purpose or they have a dumbass remote pilot.

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Or the drone is flying in support of military ops, or it's a commercial drone whose operator has a "valid statement of work". Either of which could have been the case before the ban because the government wasn't being straight about what it knew anyway. I'm not trying to be overly argumentative. I'm just pointing out that this ban doesn't clear up *anything* for citizens on the ground. It's just words.

Again, why has not one legit drone operator came out and said "I was flying one last night, doing this job."

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Interesting that the flight restrictions only apply to drones flying below 400 ft, and that there are exclusions for drones involved in emergency situations or operations with a statement of work. That last phrase sounds like a massive loophole to me. What does this actually accomplish? It sounds like all I'd have to do to avoid being subject to the restrictions is fly a drone at 401 ft. Surely that's not right.

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That's because the FAA restricts all flights to below 400 ft for Part 107 and recreational pilots.

You'd have to get a waiver or a COA to fly higher.

BTW, if you fly it at 401 ft, you've technically broken the law. The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act that just passed raised the fine for violations up to $75k per incident. The FAA can be a real ******* if they want.

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So it appears to be a ban specifically targeted at hobbyist drones, which excludes the SUV sized drones that everyone is so freaked out about. That won't fix anything. Looks like the FAA doesn't want to be a real ******* here.

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Well, it shuts down hobbyists and anyone that is doing UAS ops for a business for any reason. So, that at least clears the airspace AND you then know that any UAS flying after that have some type of nefarious purpose or they have a dumbass remote pilot.

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Or the drone is flying in support of military ops, or it's a commercial drone whose operator has a "valid statement of work". Either of which could have been the case before the ban because the government wasn't being straight about what it knew anyway. I'm not trying to be overly argumentative. I'm just pointing out that this ban doesn't clear up *anything* for citizens on the ground. It's just words.

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I'm going to guess those will be few. Perhaps proof of a contract that has to be completed or something like that. Maybe something like my Institute is doing. BUT, those will be known and the flight plans will be also be known.

Again, this is going to shut down a LOT of legal drone flying over the next month. Which will then allow the authorities and regulators to focus on any UAS that are still there.

Here's a higher quality video of the same thing. The plasma can be produced just from the air, by ripping electrons from the molecules.

There are similarities to 'Star in a Jar' sonoluminescence. pic.twitter.com/JVJuxSTlRh

— Ashton Forbes (@JustXAshton) December 21, 2024

Is this legit? Is it possible to generate a plasma orb like this?

If so, then somebody trolling people with these orbs. Generating orbs with lasers and sending drones to 'investigate the orbs.' Recall that we saw this a few years ago when a laser generated image was created in the sky off Hawaii with those green vertical lasers.

If the ability to generate these plasma orbs is real then they blue beaming us and trolling everybody as a distraction (whoever they is).

Any updates?

🚨 THREAD: The Drone Mystery They Don’t Want You to Solve 🚨

Buckle up. This is going to be long. Share widely because social media platforms other than X will take this down—and they might ban me too.

Let’s talk about what went down in NJ this month.

👇 1/@elonmusk…

— Ryan (The “Smart” Guy) Herd (@Ryan_Herd_USA) December 23, 2024

Interesting thread here where a NJ mayor goes ham trying to get to the bottom of it and describes getting stonewalled.

once you realize that the Commie Chinese literally sent a spy balloon all over the USA and vectored it over US military installations

and when you realize the Chinese have spent 25 years stealing as much data from the USA as they can

and when you realize the Chinese are building 5 new navy ships for every one that the USA builds

and when you realize that there are literally hundreds of large cargo container ships controlled by China

maybe you can realize the chinese just might want to be flying drones over the east coast of the USA.

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🚨 THREAD: The Drone Mystery They Don’t Want You to Solve 🚨

Buckle up. This is going to be long. Share widely because social media platforms other than X will take this down—and they might ban me too.

Let’s talk about what went down in NJ this month.

👇 1/@elonmusk…

— Ryan (The “Smart” Guy) Herd (@Ryan_Herd_USA) December 23, 2024

Interesting thread here where a NJ mayor goes ham trying to get to the bottom of it and describes getting stonewalled.

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This guy goes on a pretty nice rant about what he thinks is happening and how no one is interested in solving it...and closes with:

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If the government won't protect you, who will?

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My response to him would be, "why don't you just do it anyway since you know all the people that can execute the plan?" I'm sure he would say can't do it without fed green light, but come on. You just said they won't "protect us," so who cares if they say yes?

Hypothetical:

Shooting down the drones is not an option because doing so might cause a radiological incident.

Who knows how these drones are powered but the casual observer notes the range of these things is probably far beyond commercially available technology or technology known to the public. Who knows whats powering the drones. and whether you want components of the drone blasted over a populated area.

Theres probably a reason why it's been a month and no drone has been shot down. Maybe we have the capability but won't for some other reason.

There is absolutely 0 chance that anything nuclear is powering a drone that size.

There is absolutely no reason commercial electrical system cannot power one that size.

I wish well educated and intelligent people would stop absolutely refusing to listen to people who have extensive knowledge of the topic, both posters here and in the industry, and making wild claims like that. This is not a "trust me" research project, there are working real world examples.

Im not at all trying to insult or belittle you, im sure you're in that group.... please listen to people who build/operate and even design sUAS systems.

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please listen to people who build/operate and even design sUAS systems.

I wish well educated and intelligent people would stop absolutely refusing to listen to people who have extensive knowledge of the topic

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We are listening.

But the issue is that 'the experts' have failed us once again.

They haven't failed you at all on the points being discussed.

We're telling you bluntly that these aren't some unheard of sci-fi tech that needs nuclear power or some major new technology to operate. That the size is not some unheard of thing. Youve been given reasons why commercial drones are struggling to intercept them, that the .gov is lying to you about knowing where they come from etc, and that you are almost 100% being lied to about their origin not being the us gov. Even the reason they'd be tested over cities has a good and plausible explanation.

There is a definite cover up going on, but it doesn't need aliens and a nuclear bomb scare to exist. I CAN be wrong, but Occam should be at play here.

Agreed on all of that.

What I'm trying to understand is if we have conventional technology that would allow for an SUV sized non-fixed wing aircraft to transit from 50+ miles offshore, stay on station for a number of hours doing a search pattern at low altitude, then have enough power to transit 50+ miles offshore back to its point of origin? A Tesla has a range of 350 miles on a 1200 lb battery but a alleged SUV sized drone is flying for hours on battery power?

That's what I'm asking. Is what I've just described possible? Because if so, this technology seems far beyond anything in commercial use.

Has there been a breakthrough advancement in conventional battery technology and this drone situation is the first we are hearing about it?

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Is what I've just described possible?

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Most probable is that people are bad eyewitnesses, and these things are nowhere near the size of a SUV

Am the last person on earth that you got to sell the idea that people are bad eyewitnesses.

I get that. But I also get that this has been going on for 5-weeks now and it's pretty thick out there.

We've heard everybody and their bother weigh in but no explanation resonates.

Nearly there. The next generation of this technology is planned to have an endurance of 10 hours and a range of 600 to 1,000 nautical miles with up to a 650 lb payload.



I don't have any relationship to the company. I just think it's a neat and elegant solution to automated VTOL transport.

I think COVID was a real eye opener for the whole "trust the authorities" concept, so it pains me to even say this, but there's obviously a possibility that the drones are looking for something, and the thing they're looking for is way worse and would cause much more panic than the drones themselves, thus the reason everyone is tight-lipped about it.

Still, I'd like to think there's some way our government could address the issue without divulging details that would freak everyone out. The closest thing we've had to any government acknowledgment of this is through the president-elect which is pretty pathetic on the Biden admins part (or whoever is running the country now).

Somebody in the world made the conscious decision that people asking questions about the drones are better off not knowing about the drones.

In other-words public knowledge of the drones would be a way worse situation than the drones themselves.

So if we flashback to covid, the admission that covid was a biological weapon right off the bat would have been too much for the world to handle. Would have caused mass hysteria.

Same situation with the drones.

And back to what was posted several pages back.

"Don't look up for America; stop talking about the drones."

My argument would be the terrible eyewitness issue.

The long term in station is far more likely to be multiple airframes switching in and out. A TON of these sightings being reported are of full scale aircraft being mis-identified.

And yes there is tech available for that kind of operational capacity that far less exotic than a nuclear system.

Hypothetically,

If was revealed to the public that some sort of breakthrough battery technology exists and is being used to power these drones, what does that mean for manufacturers of EVs and other products reliant on conventional battery technology?

Revelation of that breakthrough would be tremendously disruptive. Who in the right mind would buy a conventional EV armed with that knowledge. EVs on the lots right now would be rendered worthless.

Would be like buying a top of the line Blackberry right as the iPhone was about to come out.

The official narratives we've heard about the drones make as much sense as the explanation for why the flu suddenly disappeared during Covid.

People tried so hard to sell it and then RAGED even more when some dared to turn it into Swiss cheese.

4-years on and the 'viral interference' truthers were never seen or heard from again.

'Viral interference' may well be the new 'there are no drones'

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Hypothetically,

If was revealed to the public that some sort of breakthrough battery technology exists and is being used to power these drones, what does that mean for manufacturers of EVs and other products reliant on conventional battery technology?

Revelation of that breakthrough would be tremendously disruptive. Who in the right mind would buy a conventional EV armed with that knowledge. EVs on the lots right now would be rendered worthless.

Would be like buying a top of the line Blackberry right as the iPhone was about to come out.

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So instead of commercializing this new breakthrough technology and becoming billionaires, they stick it in drones and fly around NJ just to **** with people?

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Hypothetically,

If was revealed to the public that some sort of breakthrough battery technology exists and is being used to power these drones, what does that mean for manufacturers of EVs and other products reliant on conventional battery technology?

Revelation of that breakthrough would be tremendously disruptive. Who in the right mind would buy a conventional EV armed with that knowledge. EVs on the lots right now would be rendered worthless.

Would be like buying a top of the line Blackberry right as the iPhone was about to come out.

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So instead of commercializing this new breakthrough technology and becoming billionaires, they stick it in drones and fly around NJ just to **** with people?

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This is what Weinstein has been saying for years, and Benz more recently.

Namely that the US classifies entire fields of advanced technology and uses it for its own purposes. The USPO has patents that are classified on the basis of national security. Its even been alleged that some fields of advanced math and physics have been removed from the public domain.

Being billionaires might not be the issue. It's not about the money to be made per se. At some point in history the decision was made to maintain the status quo for some reason unknown to us.

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Hypothetically,

If was revealed to the public that some sort of breakthrough battery technology exists and is being used to power these drones, what does that mean for manufacturers of EVs and other products reliant on conventional battery technology?

Revelation of that breakthrough would be tremendously disruptive. Who in the right mind would buy a conventional EV armed with that knowledge. EVs on the lots right now would be rendered worthless.

Would be like buying a top of the line Blackberry right as the iPhone was about to come out.

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I know you're speaking generally and just using EV as an example, but EVs are already not that desirable. Dealers in our area already won't take them on trade-in because nobody wants them.

Theo on point as usual.

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Theo on point as usual.

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lol incredible. Love that guy.