BMX Bandit said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ok, 5-4 against. my bad

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do you even know what the Canning concurrence was? It appears you don't. nothing wrong with that, but you are just throwing up numbers without any basis.

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so you believe it will be challenged if he does typical recess and SCOTUS will rule against?

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Absolutely.

In the Canning case, Scalia wrote in the concurrence that to be a recess appointment the vacancy must "happen during the Recess," ie, offices that become vacant during that intermission. He was joined by Alito, Roberts and Thomas.

So unless those 3 have a complete 180 change of opinion, thats 3 votes against.

Gorsuch, Kavanagh and Barrett are all Scalia fans, so you only need 2 of them to make 5.

But then consider the 3 liberals. You only need 2 of them to find any reason to go against Trump. Its a safe bet that happens.

But the kicker is, and what Trump knows, is that that probably doesn't matter.


Take his hypo:

Trump does a recess appointment of Gaetz.

SCOTUS says that the appointment violates the constitution.


What happens in the interim? Gaetz is still going to be essentially the attorney general. the lower courts are not going to issue an injunction saying he can't be in office.

Is it worth all this headache to the GOP? I say no.

Thats why I think Gaetz gets confirmed the traditional way. The threat of the whole thing blowing up only hurts republicans in thelong run.

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Ain't that a peach? 😳 https://t.co/aaiGtvsrJ4

— Steve Baker - TPC (@TPC4USA) November 19, 2024

aggiehawg said:

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Hmm. No further comment.

Ain't that a peach? 😳 https://t.co/aaiGtvsrJ4

— Steve Baker - TPC (@TPC4USA) November 19, 2024

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HTownAg98 said:

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This whole thing makes me feel like we're scraping the bottom of the barrel with Gaetz.

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Charpie said:

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Here is a better link.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/19/us/politics/matt-gaetz-hack-testimony.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bE4.f2SX.A-EoaFu8nQma&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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MarkTwain said:

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House Ethics reported to have been hacked and the only thing breached was the Gaetz investigation report


What are the odds of that happening

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aggiehawg said:

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MarkTwain said:

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House Ethics reported to have been hacked and the only thing breached was the Gaetz investigation report


What are the odds of that happening

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Slim to none and slim just left the building.

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rathAG05 said:

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Then they are spineless. Just because he's Elon Musk doesn't mean he knows what he's doing when it comes to cabinet picks.

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MarkTwain said:

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So the entire allegation teeters on the word of Joel Greenberg a proven liar and self confessed fabricator of political disinformation. According to Greenberg the unnamed 17 year old was a sex worker aka hooker. Who has false credentials and worked in a strip club under an alias. Reportedly two escorts were disposed claiming they attended between five and 10 "sex parties" with Gaetz between 2017 and 2018, when Gaetz was already in Congress, and one claims to have witnessed Gaetz "having sex with her unnamed friend," who was underage at the time. No actual victim has come forward. No wonder the Biden DOJ never went after this, it's sketchy at best.

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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Hmm. No further comment.

Ain't that a peach? 😳 https://t.co/aaiGtvsrJ4

— Steve Baker - TPC (@TPC4USA) November 19, 2024

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I am sure this is just for personal work.

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REPORTER: Mr. President, are you reconsidering the nomination of @MattGaetz?

TRUMP: No.pic.twitter.com/USXlmZLWZz

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 20, 2024

BREAKING: Don Gaetz, the father of attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz, has been sworn into the Florida Senate. pic.twitter.com/CYysSW0v6i

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 19, 2024

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DC fears retribution for a decade of prosecutorial persecution of Trump and his team.

Politico reported, "Senate Republicans deliver a message to Trump: Gaetz's confirmation is in jeopardy. They're privately hoping Trump doesn't make them walk the plank."

Walk the plank?
What plank?

West Virginia's Shelley Moore Capito, a former Cherry Blossom Princess in DC when her daddy was a congressman, is up for re-election in 2026. (Murkowski is another former Cherry Blossom Princess. Same reason.) She might want to consult Liz Cheney on what opposition to Donald Trump can do to a Republican.

Does anyone believe that a state that gave Trump 70% of its votes this month will punish her for supporting his choice for attorney general?

In a sane world, the opposite would be the case. But we don't live there. We live in a world where the federal government runs the Senate, not the other way around. Capito is now No. 4 in the Republican caucus pecking order the highest female. Call her Roberta Byrdette because she is more concerned about personal power than representing the state.

Trump carried 31 states the most by any president in 20 years.
Those 31 states sent 62 senators to DC to represent them.

They don't. They hate Gaetz and they hate their states. Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa told Politico, "He's got an uphill climb."

Isn't she the pig farmer who told voters she knew how to cut pork? The national debt doubled during her 10 years in the Senate.

Trump carried Iowa by 8 points in 2020, when she was re-elected by 6. He carried the state by 13 points this time. She should say "yea" and sit the heck down.

The people have spoken and they said Trump picks his cabinet, not former Cherry Blossom Princesses who have run the national debt up while ignoring the needs of the people.

Instead of picking on Gaetz, how about doing something useful like investigating FJB's refusal to help hurricane victims in western North Carolina and Tennessee? The Biden administration already cleared Gaetz of any wrongdoing. We know this because they investigated him and could not indict him on anything, not even a parking violation.

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BREAKING: Sen. Lindsey Graham has met with Matt Gaetz and J.D. Vance and is now urging GOP senators to vote to confirm Gaetz.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 20, 2024

BIG: Lindsey Graham defends Matt Gaetz and fact-checks CNN live. pic.twitter.com/w0cGlY5bV1

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) November 19, 2024

BMX Bandit said:

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none. he was always a safe "yes"

Collins, Murkowski, Tillis, Cassidy, McConnell & Cornyn are potentially the ones that have to be swayed

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BMX Bandit said:

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I am 99% sure Cornyn is a "yes".

Just listed him a a possibility, even if very far fetched.

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FireAg said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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I am 99% sure Cornyn is a "yes".

Just listed him a a possibility, even if very far fetched.

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It's been made clear to him that he'd better be a yes…

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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FireAg said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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I am 99% sure Cornyn is a "yes".

Just listed him a a possibility, even if very far fetched.

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It's been made clear to him that he'd better be a yes…

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I'll be calling his office tomorrow.

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Some House Republicans are prepared to block President-elect Trump from using a recess appointment on attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz.
[url=https://www.axios.com/2024/11/20/house-democrats-force-vote-gaetz-ethics-report?utm_medium=partner&utm_source=microsoft-start&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=subs-partner-msoft-sneakpeek][/url]
Why it matters: In the case of recess appointments, the House can use a procedural trick to block a president from bypassing the Senate.

• Several House Republicans would vote against any motion to go into recess, Axios has learned.
• Trump's plan to circumvent the Senate's "advice and consent" role is complicated, but there's a clear constitutional provision that gives him the power to adjourn Congress, which would open the door for a recess appointment.

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What they're saying: Some House Republicans have deep reservations about recessing the House just to give Trump the power to use recess appointments.

• "I've already said we shouldn't be going into recess," said Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.).
• "It will be something that I'd discuss with leadership first before being public," Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told Axios. "I don't want to say either way out of respect to the Speaker. I owe him to talk to him first."

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What they're saying: Some House Republicans have deep reservations about recessing the House just to give Trump the power to use recess appointments.

• "I've already said we shouldn't be going into recess," said Rep. Mike Lawler (R-N.Y.).
• "It will be something that I'd discuss with leadership first before being public," Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) told Axios. "I don't want to say either way out of respect to the Speaker. I owe him to talk to him first."

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