AggieShanks said:

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After reading other comments, this is a great takeaway for sure. I believe that others hold onto a dream that is increasingly impossible to really achieve without government intervention.

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I disagree. It has never been easier to make it than today. You have a generation that is risk averse. Fortune favors the bold.

I was able to do it on my third try and started with nothing.

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Government is government? But it would be more productive to draw lines. I think the federal government is to ensure the unity of state governments within reason. States can have their own sovereignty, but within limits.

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Read the constitution. The states exist to LIMIT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. All power not directly allocated to the states fall on the federal government. It was supposed to be ONLY those power that the Fed gov had. But over the last 100 years, the people have given away 75% of their power.

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You do know when markets are left alone that they eventually evolve into stagnant markets full of big sharks devouring any small shark of value. And the small sharks can never get market cap because the big sharks hold it all. Free markets only work in new industries. They eventually have to be regulated. The meat market is a perfect one of where the market was poisoning people for a few bucks. Pharmaceuticals is another of which researching/storing drugs is too expensive for anyone to get into.

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Do you consider the legal community a new industry? I was able to create a 3mil+ business in just under 6 years. Where were the big sharks?

10th amendment was voted on by the states.

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10th amendment was voted on by the states.

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Yes and where does the 10th limit the states.

All social programs should be run by states. States can choose to have to hem or not.

Depends on the business. A $3+m lawn care company is BCS would be gargantuan. A $3m tech start-up would be peanuts.

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"Non-conservatives", as you call them, probably represent 15% of the posts on the board.

And 130% of the complaints to Staff trying to get people banned.

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As I recollect, Staff once said that (at least as of that time) just about any post critical of Trump drew multiple flags from Trump supporters.

But then, Trump supporters aren't Conservative so maybe you are correct.

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The world just watched the wealthiest country in South America fall to one of the poorest most wretched ones quickly, less than two decades from the 90s to 2000's, after a socialist coup d'etat. Yet people still vote for today's democrats.

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Actually Argentina (rather than Venezuela) (and definitely not Brazil) is IMO the Latin American country that Americans should be most fixated on. They have similar natural blessings and enjoyed similar access to opportunities out of Europe, but have of course fared vastly differently. It's not clear to me what prevents 1 or 2 bad Presidents here from turning us into Argentina.

If I had a better understanding of Argentina's history and developmental issues, it'd probably shape the majority of my domestic politics.

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oh no said:

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The world just watched the wealthiest country in South America fall to one of the poorest most wretched ones quickly, less than two decades from the 90s to 2000's, after a socialist coup d'etat. Yet people still vote for today's democrats.

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Actually Argentina (rather than Venezuela) (and definitely not Brazil) is IMO the Latin American country that Americans should be most fixated on. They have similar natural blessings and enjoyed similar access to opportunities out of Europe, but have of course fared vastly differently. It's not clear to me what prevents 1 or 2 bad Presidents here from turning us into Argentina.

If I had a better understanding of Argentina's history and developmental issues, it'd probably shape the majority of my domestic politics.

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We've had way more than 2 bad presidents in America. Nearly every democrat since 1900. It is our Constitution that kept us from becoming Venezuela. Unfortunately, democrats don't even bother following that anymore.

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oh no said:

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The world just watched the wealthiest country in South America fall to one of the poorest most wretched ones quickly, less than two decades from the 90s to 2000's, after a socialist coup d'etat. Yet people still vote for today's democrats.

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Actually Argentina (rather than Venezuela) (and definitely not Brazil) is IMO the Latin American country that Americans should be most fixated on. They have similar natural blessings and enjoyed similar access to opportunities out of Europe, but have of course fared vastly differently. It's not clear to me what prevents 1 or 2 bad Presidents here from turning us into Argentina.

If I had a better understanding of Argentina's history and developmental issues, it'd probably shape the majority of my domestic politics.

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they imported Nazi socialists, turned socialist, and got really poor too. Democrat playbook. The people finally rejected socialist bureaucrats and elected a libertarian to try to right the ship. Fascinating to watch to see if they let it play out, but I'm afraid the CIA and former security state bureaucrats won't let Javier Milei live long enough.

Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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Squadron7 said:

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"Non-conservatives", as you call them, probably represent 15% of the posts on the board.

And 130% of the complaints to Staff trying to get people banned.

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As I recollect, Staff once said that (at least as of that time) just about any post critical of Trump drew multiple flags from Trump supporters.

But then, Trump supporters aren't Conservative so maybe you are correct.

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Add two more sentences and make this the perfect lefty meme.

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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What ?

Oh please. Give some detail. What particular socialist policies do you have in mind ?

Your posts have zero to no detail. Hard to get where you are coming from.

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seems Trump is the man of the people. I expect you will be voting for him

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my vote was, remains, and will always be against trump

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In a hypothetical election who would you vote for between JD Vance and AOC? You don't have to answer because I know who you'd vote for and it tells me everything about your real beliefs.

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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You clearly understand nothing about economics or history.

The closer to socialism a nation is the WORSE they become. The closer to free markets, the better. It's the number one factor of success.

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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holy ****. We are still the least socialist country in this hemisphere, but our Marxist regime is trying to change it fast, ever since too many stupid programmed citizens voted for hope & radical change.

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I notice a lot of discussions get shot down as anyone that doesn't fall into the groupthink down here are trolls. I'm generally curious if they are any left leaning people on the politics board?

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Nice trolling….very nice.

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AggieShanks said:

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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What ?

Oh please. Give some detail what particular socialist policies do you have in mind ?

Your post have zero to no detail. Hard to get where you are coming from.

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I think this is where they claim that any shared public funding of things like defense, or police, or firehouses, courts, etc make us a de facto "socialist" country when we are talking about things like massive direct transfers of wealth for everything from welfare entitlements to sex changes for military personnel in prison to funding people to drop a crucifix in a jar of urine and call it art, etc.

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AggieShanks said:

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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You clearly understand nothing about economics or history.

The closer to socialism a nation is the WORSE they become. The closer to free markets, the better. It's the number one factor of success.

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I asked him to give some details. I doubt he will. I have the rope ready should he dare answer. This will be fun.

As threads go on their true colors always come out. From moderate to socialist in the blink of an eye. Funny how numerous people spotted it from the beginning, yet we have a thread critical of people "piling on" when "liberals or moderates" come here with their easy to spot fallacies.

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As threads go on their true colors always come out. From moderate to socialist in the blink of an eye. Funny how numerous people spotted it from the beginning, yet we have a thread critical of people "piling on" when "liberals or moderates" come here with their easy to spot fallacies.

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Related: When you run across one of those strident commies on social media somehwere, always ask them what they, come the revolution, will be doing for a living.

Hilarity will ensue. Guaranteed.

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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Laments the lack of political discourse, then posts this laughable and utter nonsense.

Medicaid, social security, the current status of the tax bracket to pay for education.

Fatboy Thaddeus said:

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Actually Argentina (rather than Venezuela) (and definitely not Brazil) is IMO the Latin American country that Americans should be most fixated on. They have similar natural blessings and enjoyed similar access to opportunities out of Europe, but have of course fared vastly differently. It's not clear to me what prevents 1 or 2 bad Presidents here from turning us into Argentina.

If I had a better understanding of Argentina's history and developmental issues, it'd probably shape the majority of my domestic politics.

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My wife recently returned from a summer abroad program in Argentina. She said the thing that struck her most when talking with locals is that most were eager to talk politics, and American politics in particular. There isn't the social taboo of talking politics like here.

One of the things locals conveyed is that they are innately different from us in terms of how they consider voting. The locals stated they vote for the well-being of the country as a whole rather than what might benefit themselves most. They referred to themselves as a "collective" society as opposed to individualism in America

Liking a few socialist policies isn't socialism. Socialism is a far cry from what we'd want to become.

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Medicaid, social security, the current status of the tax bracket to pay for education.

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All the things that are unsustainable and going broke?

Individualism is what makes America great.

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Medicaid, social security, the current status of the tax bracket to pay for education.

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Medicaid isn't great. If you mean Medicare that's fine and your opinion. Medicaid encourages freeloading and more kids. It also is screwing over states.

I don't like freeloaders, but i do believe in helping others. We judge ourselves based on how strong our bottom is. Even poor in America doesn't scratch the surface of poor in other countries because of socialism.

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AggieShanks said:

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Socialist policies are why the US is still a country. Without it, we'd be just as bad as most of the countries on this side of the world.

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Laments the lack of political discourse, then posts this laughable and utter nonsense.

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Then disappears when ask to expand on the details.

Its clear he didnt want to talk abut Cuba and why they still drive ancient US cars and have had little to no GDP improvement in 60 years.

Didn't want to talk about Venezuela and how it once had one of the strongest economies in Latin America until it went full socialist ******. Now it exports people trying to get out of the rubble.

Didnt even want to talk about how all Canadian provinces with the exception of Alberta have per capitia GPD less than the state of Alabama. Ontario is roughly even. The rest not even close.

All issues, as he puts it, on this side of the world.

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I don't like freeloaders, but i do believe in helping others.

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Then help away.

Keep your ****ing hands out of my pockets. Stealing is bad, mmmmmkay.

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Medicaid, social security, the current status of the tax bracket to pay for education.

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And we can just continue to print money merely to pay the interest on our debt forever while these fall exponentially farther into a hole so deep the only way out is default.

Again, showing your colors. Financial literacy = does not exist. Support of socialistic structures that have cratered us into debt with literally no ability to ever even slow down the depth of the hole. You don't have to say any more words. You have shown exactly what you believe in, and it isn't even close to moderate.

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AggieShanks said:

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After reading other comments, this is a great takeaway for sure. I believe that others hold onto a dream that is increasingly impossible to really achieve without government intervention.

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I disagree. It has never been easier to make it than today. You have a generation that is risk averse. Fortune favors the bold.

I was able to do it on my third try and started with nothing.

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You call white privilege "NOTHING" !?!?!?

AggieShanks said:

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I don't like freeloaders, but i do believe in helping others. We judge ourselves based on how strong our bottom is. Even poor in America doesn't scratch the surface of poor in other countries because of socialism.

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That is not details. Anyone can have compassion. Socialism is the CAUSE of poverty. A zillion example. several I posted above.

Compassion without a brain and a total lack of understanding cause and effect-- create a socialist.