*****Official Conspiracy Theory Thread*****

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fixer said:

techno-ag said:




Provocative and compelling.

However, I agree with others that a trained marksman, with superior equipment, would not miss even under duress.

I think the conspiracy comes down to:

The SS knew of intel that an assassination attempt was highly likely. Under orders from those who are distraught over a second Trump candidacy, they were instructed to not engage ( in hopes that it would be successful).

The other possibility is that Crooks was straight away selected by the CIA or some other mega goon squad.

Trying to get one or two people in an SS team to be compromised might be harder than it looks.

Crook's phone is the best place to rule this in or out. Quite frankly there is no reason to trust any fed agency with that phone. It is too late now..
Just as provocative and compelling is no one -no one- has answered the question, "who's in charge?"

The snipers?

Some Alphabet org guy with a team of six sitting in a van offsite somewhere with cameras, microphones, speakers and God knows what other tech, trying to coordinate/control the whole disconnected operation?

A Sergeant from the local police force?

A State Trooper?

To me, the lead SS agent standing near Trump should be the guy, and all chatter from all these different groups is funneled to him...he hears anything suspicious in his ear, he just needs to shout, "COVER", and they descend on Trump.

I would bet those guys on stage are not even in on the chatter...and last to know...if they even know.


"You are being watched..."
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On the Bernstein topic. I love that the CIA made his career then he stabs them in the back hard.

No loyalty among thieves or maybe he developed a conscience. I doubt the second part though as he stole money from a long list of important people for decades while sleeping with every woman that had a pulse while married.

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FireAg said:

No sniper is 100% perfect…it's not like the movies…

Even Chris Kyle missed…
Not from 140 yards with an AR and Eotech sight on a weapon he'd practiced with/zero'd recently against a stationary/soft target in broad daylight with a clear line of sight and little wind/weather to worry about.
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The mile walk from Home Depot with a 12 ft ladder, AR, and knapsack story went bye bye. Carry on.
It only took me a year to figure out this place is nuts!
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nortex97 said:

FireAg said:

No sniper is 100% perfect…it's not like the movies…

Even Chris Kyle missed…
Not from 140 yards with an AR and Eotech sight on a weapon he'd practiced with/zero'd recently against a stationary/soft target in broad daylight with a clear line of sight and little wind/weather to worry about.


If Trump doesn't turn his head it is a direct hit, it was a good shot
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This guy crouching and moving people before the shot does seem a little strange.

(Video of crouching guy appears to be mirror image- wrong orientation)

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No argument. Again, the set up worked, as did whatever his training was but for that head shift/tilt which was unscripted as he went off the planned speech.

On the USSS radar for 3 hours before the shots.


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A threat to Trump was not an abstract, distant possibility. The Secret Service had already been warned that Iran was actively plotting to kill President Trump, supposedly triggering enhanced security measures that somehow didn't include securing an obvious site from which a sniper could take potshots at him.
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CNN The shooter who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump on Saturday normally would have been at work that day, but he told his boss he needed that the day off because he had "something to do," according to multiple law enforcement officials.

Thomas Matthew Crooks told his coworkers he would be back to work on Sunday.

While investigators have not been able to identify a motive for Crooks' attack at the rally in Butler County, Pennsylvania, they are piecing together more of his activities.

By 3 p.m. on Saturday, roughly three hours before the shooting, Crooks was at the security screening area for the rally. He first aroused suspicion when he passed through the magnetometers carrying a rangefinder, which looks similar to a small pair of binoculars and is used by hunters and target shooters to measure distances when setting up a long-range shot, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.

I'm so old, I remember hearing over the weekend that the counter sniper team only had a few seconds once he poked over the 'sloped roof' to decide to engage.

No wonder Cheatle decided she can't testify, even behind closed doors today. The whole charade is falling apart, before a modern-day "Warren commission" can even be assembled to defend it.

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captkirk said:


This right here has my antennae twitching. That smug smile and the surprise reference.
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nortex97 said:

FireAg said:

No sniper is 100% perfect…it's not like the movies…

Even Chris Kyle missed…
Not from 140 yards with an AR and Eotech sight on a weapon he'd practiced with/zero'd recently against a stationary/soft target in broad daylight with a clear line of sight and little wind/weather to worry about.

You assume the kid was the one shooting…

I don't…

I believe the actual ear shot came from much further away…

I have zero faith that poor 20yo patsy even squeezed off a single round…
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Anyone notice today that some of the D heavy hitters are coming out today to ask Biden to step aside?

Pelosi lapdog Schiff made his call, and it has been leaked today that Schumer had inquired about the DNC postponing the convention/nomination…

All after a failed assassination attempt on the R who has been spanking Biden in polling…

Coincidence?
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FireAg said:

nortex97 said:

FireAg said:

No sniper is 100% perfect…it's not like the movies…

Even Chris Kyle missed…
Not from 140 yards with an AR and Eotech sight on a weapon he'd practiced with/zero'd recently against a stationary/soft target in broad daylight with a clear line of sight and little wind/weather to worry about.

You assume the kid was the one shooting…

I don't…

I believe the actual ear shot came from much further away…

I have zero faith that poor 20yo patsy even squeezed off a single round…
The second shooter could have been from literally right above the shooter. There is a second-story window in the building directly behind, and on a similar sight-line, as the building Mr. Crooks was on. Fire an AR-15 with similar ammo as the weapon Mr. Crooks had and you may not recognize a gunshot originating from the second floor window.
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Unfortunately…unless someone caught video of the shooting, and it isn't confiscated by authorities, we will never know…

Soooo many cameras caught this 20yo fool getting into position, but we haven't seen a single video of him discharging the alleged weapon…

Why?
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Good (but profane) summary.

Butler PD denies responsibility for the building. And, if they weren't responsible, the obvious question is…why did SS leave it so damn open?

I think thread readers know the answer to that.
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kind of a big kill shot to be entrusted to a mixed up kid who is clumsy and conspicuous in all other ways.

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Texas velvet maestro said:

kind of a big kill shot to be entrusted to a mixed up kid who is clumsy and conspicuous in all other ways.


Except for his lack of online presence.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

kind of a big kill shot to be entrusted to a mixed up kid who is clumsy and conspicuous in all other ways.



Pretty damn accurate of this otherwise goober as well…

If he was such a great shot…he had to have been practicing at local ranges, no?

Where are all of the reports from local gun range owners/employees talking about how often he came to practice?

Maybe the the folks who put this in motion are still getting those stories straightened out to fit their narrative?

Time will tell…
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Illustrate conspiracy theory:

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NicosMachine said:

Illustrate conspiracy theory:


That so reminds me of the tsip artist that always drew Aggie stick figures wearing overalls and carrying a hoe. And the Sooners always had a bag of, well, things.

So in that spirit somebody needs to add the bag next to the USSS.
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ha ha ha. they want us to believe that this mongoloid looking mf outsmarted what is supposed to be the most elite protective agency in the most powerful country in the world?

THAT is a conspiracy theory if I've ever heard one.
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Saw three different eyewitness interviews the day of who said there was a shooter in the water tower. I'm assuming that means two shooters. Crooks was fall guy
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

pdc093 said:

Cory Mills has CNNster SQUIRMING....



***** got her talking points liked up.
Watched the interview and not really sure what the tweeter is talking about - both were measured and I think he brought up good points about how there will need to be a full investigation to make sure the shooter wasn't helped in some other way, and she was basically just probing to get him to expand on what he was saying. Big difference in those that are jumping to the "giant deep state conspiracy" conclusion and what he was saying here imo.
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Don't forget cop who climbed up to the roof and then fell down and hurt his ankle
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ExtremeRush said:

boulderaggie said:

The shooter didn't miss.

He definitely missed. You think Hillary was happy with grazing the ear?
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Photographer was in on it?

Trump will fix it.
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From the other thread. Soros was behind it.

Trump will fix it.
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New York Times says Crooks was looking for Biden too.

Thread: https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3476423
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At this point are yall leaning towards gross incompetence or inside job ?
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hedge said:

At this point are yall leaning towards gross incompetence or inside job ?

Kinda simple, really, isn't it? When they trotted out the sloped roof excuse after the 'local PD's responsibility' one after leaving Trump out there for 20 minutes while watching a sniper 135 yards from him with a gun, it kinda gave the game away, imho.

Good speculation:


'Conspiracy Theorist,' just fyi, is a term invented by the CIA, in 1963, after JFK's assassination. They're very good at psychological programming as the same techniques used for near the entire history of humankind. This wasn't an 'oops' moment in time:

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What good is a conspiracy thread without conspirators?

Let's get a running tally of conspirators, useful idiots who worked together unknowingly but perfectly, or knew about the assassination plot that almost worked….


- shooter - he ain't talking
- Biden (not likely) or someone within his campaign (Jill?) would have to give the "OK"
- The SS head
- the SS team leader on the ground
- snipers who didn't shoot
- snipers who didn't show up
- SS team members in the nearby building that did nothing
- SS team members who failed to get Trump out of the way knowing there was a shooter
- SS security who let him in with a rangefinder
- the building owner
- Soros fund managers
- BlackRock managers
- the other 2 shooters in the tree's and on the water tower
- security that helped the guys in the trees and water tower

All these have appeared here as part of the plan. Feel free to add or delete if debunked
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B-1 83 said:

What good is a conspiracy thread without conspirators?

Let's get a running tally of conspirators, useful idiots who worked together unknowingly but perfectly, or knew about the assassination plot that almost worked….


- shooter - he ain't talking
- Biden (not likely) or someone within his campaign (Jill?) would have to give the "OK"
- The SS head
- the SS team leader on the ground
- snipers who didn't shoot
- snipers who didn't show up
- SS team members in the nearby building that did nothing
- SS team members who failed to get Trump out of the way knowing there was a shooter
- SS security who let him in with a rangefinder
- the building owner
- Soros fund managers
- BlackRock managers
- the other 2 shooters in the tree's and on the water tower
- security that helped the guys in the trees and water tower

All these have appeared here as part of the plan. Feel free to add or delete if debunked

One persuasive person on advance team to convince group to exclude said building building from SS/federal primary perimeter. Same person, or another, to continue to downplay significance of that rooftop (too sloped, too hot, whatever). Same person could influence comms, or not.

That's it. One key person and the rest just say OK, even though they may likely disagree. The rest is just typical fumbling/bumbling of putting disjointed personnel together for one day. Nobody really knows what to do or who to talk to.
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Both "shorts" now cited as reporting errors by the company. But even if made I'd say they were betting the RNC would be a flop and hurt the Trump companies.
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I don't think anyone would suspect Joe Biden of directing/ordering the conspiracy. He's not running a single damn thing in his condition. It would come from the intelligence community, to be frank, the folks most motivated and most dangerous toward DJT returning to the presidency.

Comey, Strzok, Clapper etc. were not lone actors the first time, and they knew Hillary's "Russia dossier" courtesy of Steele was bs well before Trump took the oath. The CIA even has a book out available for free as to how/why they hate him.

Oh, he used encrypted communications, how shocking.



It's amazing some of this all manages to tie back to Hunter and Burisma etc:
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Photoshop?
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hedge said:

At this point are yall leaning towards gross incompetence or inside job ?
Not long ago, I would've unquestionably given a 99.9% chance that it is incompetence...but the last 5 or so years have made Hanlon's razor extremely dull...
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I'm a big conspiracy guy, JFK, bay of Tonkin, 9/11. But I also have a healthy skepticism of conspiracy theories.

I never thought I would see an assassination attempt in my life. Now with all the info coming out I have come to the conclusion that either the secret service is an extremely incompetent agency and have lost and all credibility or this was planned and orchestrated by shadow elements
 
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