*****Official Conspiracy Theory Thread*****

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More here (gab).
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IMHO an attack vector for Crooks was cleared. But here's the BIGGEST tell, that few are discussing: With a suspected gunman wandering around, Trump was still allowed to go on stage. If LE had a suspicious possible shooter wandering around for 26 minutes, they should have AT LEAST kept Trump off the stage until the risk was gone. Even in the last 2 to 5 minutes, when LE and the counter-snipers were all in near-panic mode, they let Trump stand at the podium!

Nobody gave the "DANGER! GET TRUMP DOWN!" code word on the radio during the hunt for a possible shooter reported to LE by many eye witnesses. Forget for the moment when or how the CS team acquired and shot Crooks. Just the fact that THEY LEFT TRUMP STANDING IN THE OPEN during all that confusion over a possible shooter on a roof with a rifle is DAMNING.
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But, since Trump's unlikely rise to power in 2016 and the subsequent traitorous acts by the Deep State and their lackeys in the government, media, and surveillance state bureaus, in attempting to destroy Trump through the fake Russiagate investigations, two impeachments based on nothing, creating a fake pandemic to rig the 2020 election, instigating a fake insurrection to keep him from running again, using the power of the DOJ to bring multiple fake charges against him, raiding his residence with orders to shoot if necessary, allowing millions of illegals to enter the country and encouraging them to vote illegally to throw the 2024 election, vilifying him as a threat worse than Hitler, and now being exposed using a patsy to try and assassinate him while his Secret Service detail pretended to protect him.

There should be no doubt in anyone's mind a Deep State/Invisible government is running the show, and we are all nothing more than spectators who are brainwashed into doing what we are told by those who "have our best interests at heart". After they failed by one inch in blowing Trump's head off (ala JFK), the narrative being spun is that we all must unite and tone down the vitriol. It is too late, and they know it. This is all for show.
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techno-ag said:




Provocative and compelling.

However, I agree with others that a trained marksman, with superior equipment, would not miss even under duress.

I think the conspiracy comes down to:

The SS knew of intel that an assassination attempt was highly likely. Under orders from those who are distraught over a second Trump candidacy, they were instructed to not engage ( in hopes that it would be successful).

The other possibility is that Crooks was straight away selected by the CIA or some other mega goon squad.

Trying to get one or two people in an SS team to be compromised might be harder than it looks.

Crook's phone is the best place to rule this in or out. Quite frankly there is no reason to trust any fed agency with that phone. It is too late now..
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What are we supposed to see in the upper left of that photo two posts above mine? I don't see anything.
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Sean Parnell was on the front row behind Trump and was just pointing out how absurdly close/obvious that roof was. His reporting/perspective on the attempt is interesting:

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techno-ag said:


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There is now a very credible explanation emerging that says US Secret Service agents, on orders from Kimberly Cheatle and Alejandro Mayorkas, placed a Secret Service team INSIDE the building where the "shooter" was crawling on the roof, and that the actual shots targeting #Trump may have been taken by the US Secret Service from INSIDE the building. This would be consistent with the audio forensics of the shooting recordings, since the distance would be nearly identical to the rooftop "shooter." This also explains why counter-sniper teams held their fire until AFTER the "shooter" killed Trump. Their job was to eliminate the patsy. Note that US Secret Service had eyes on this young man for at least 30 minutes, watching him with an actual rangefinder, scoping the range of the shot, then with a backpack, then scaling the ladder and going onto the roof. They watched him and reported on his progress. They did nothing to stop him. They did everything but load his rifle and pull the trigger. We need an immediate criminal investigation into Kimberly Cheatle and a hard look at all US Secret Service counter-snipers deployed that day. This stinks to high Heaven. Note that in the assassination of JFK, they also had a patsy, while the real shot was taken by a CIA-run sharpshooter. Cheatle's bizarre "sloped roof" excuse doesn't pass the smell test. She's covering up something.
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From the other thread:

Trump will fix it.
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Tramp96 said:

This thread just needs to be shut down now. There is no viable way in 2024 America to be able to distinguish between a conspiracy theory, actual truth, and whatever dribble comes out of MSM.


i would disagree over the last four years. conspiracy theories have become true, actual truth is a lie, and whatever the MSM says is bull *****
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clearly the most logical and popular conspiracy theory

Biden appointed an incompetent director of USSS who diverted personnel to protect her BFF Jill Biden and didn't really care what happened to Trump..

oh yeah, that's not a theory it's reality.
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3 different witnesses saw a shooter on the water tower:



Not including Tom and McCormick:




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I take a lot of those reports with a grain of salt. People can't tell what's going on in the heat of those 8 seconds (and the 'bang' from the gun, and supersonic crack will confuse folks at that range). And if a second shooter was way back past the wood line (or improbably, on the water tower but never filmed), and was also using 5.56 (to make them sound similar), but was a pro (aiming center mass), he'd have hit the target.

I'm fully onboard 'inside job' team but the second shooter doesn't check out but for some of my confusion about the struck hydraulic line on some sort of vehicle/cherry picker not being in the 'line of fire' otherwise for Crooks.

Everyone on SS was obviously confused/terrible/horrible day, or even in on it obviously, but if they heard a second shooter I do think the counter sniper teams would have also (belatedly) responded.
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The problem with the two shooters theory is that the USSS shot back, killing Crooks. So, were the extra shots from another gunman or from the USSS?

Reminds me of the echoes heard around the buildings of Dealy Plaza that had people convinced of two shooters with JFK.
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d-burg said:

How about this one.

Trump himself is part of the "Deep State."

The assassination attempt was staged to gain support and secure the Presidency.

Trump's VP pick JP Vance's biggest financial donors is Silicon Valley Billionaire Peter Thiel. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/jd-vance-trump-vp-peter-thiel-billionaire/

Peter Thiel's company Palantir built software to assist the NSA to spy on every American citizen.
https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/

Just asking questions…



Seriously, anyone want to go down this rabbit hole with me? Why would we want a VP endorsed heavily by a billionaire who deliberately helped the NSA build global surveillance programs?

Snowden made all this public to the world during Obama's presidency in 2013 so it's not really a political conversation. And God knows what capabilities they have now with AI. I personally don't endorse mass surveillance of any magnitude… You guys can jump on board with having everything you say and do being monitored like the CCP does if you want.
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He was allegedly stopped by security with a range finder. And was allowed in. Allegedly sighted the snipers who looked back at him.

Then he was allowed to scale a building with a rifle... allegedly.

If you have a range finder, why are you allowed in?
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rynning said:

Do these windows open? (Just asking questions.)


What throws me is that when Corey was shot he was positioned very close to the northern edge of the grandstands (per a previously posted video). The image above has the shot directly in the middle of the grandstands. I question 1. the image or 2. the true direction of the shot that killed Corey.
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Squadron7 said:

Sloped roofs and heels are a bad mix.
From the esteemed Director of the USSS...

This thread will get shutdown, by the F_I, BMA or someone...because it includes too much diversity of equal opinions

"You are being watched..."
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This made me laugh
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TAMU1990 said:



This made me laugh
OMG!!! That's a 5 / 12 roof!!!

That cow should have fall protection!!!

Totally unsafe!!!

Think of the Children!!

"You are being watched..."
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aggiepanic95 said:

rynning said:

Do these windows open? (Just asking questions.)


What throws me is that when Corey was shot he was positioned very close to the northern edge of the grandstands (per a previously posted video). The image above has the shot directly in the middle of the grandstands. I question 1. the image or 2. the true direction of the shot that killed Corey.


There were videos from people on the ground before Trump was shot. There were people videoing the shooter and people were in front of the building walking around. I think if anyone shot from windows it would have been seen.
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Oh look, Victoria Nuland stuck her disgusting face up ahead of time about how Trump won't…win.



And the "B team" didn't even have a plan to exit after the shooter missed:

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https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2024/07/17/msnbc-pushes-debunked-conspiracy-theory-trump-wasnt-shot

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Despite the graphic photographic evidence from different angles showing former President Trump was missing chunks of his right ear after being shot in the head during a failed assassination attempt over the weekend, MSNBC host Michael Steele wasted oxygen during the network's coverage of Night Two of the Republican National Convention on Tuesday to spew debunked fringe conspiracy theories claiming Trump wasn't actually hit by a bullet.

"Where I am at this point, it's been three days, going on four…and yet, we have not received a medical report from the hospital nor have we received a medical report from the campaign or from the Trump organization about the extent of the damage to his ear," he decried.

Steele, who's not a ballistics expert nor was he pro-gun rights in any meaningful way, bloviated about how "If he was shot by a high-caliber bullet, there should probably be very little ear there. And so we would like to know that."

The failed former Republican National Committee chairman seemed to be relying on flawed Hollywood movie logic to educate himself on how firearms and ballistics worked.


Even Snopes is debunking this.
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techno-ag said:


Sorry, but this is nuclear level bull*****

The guy writes for "Natural News" which is one of the biggest fake news sites out there.
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She is in a position to know. No arguing that.
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nortex97 said:

Oh look, Victoria Nuland stuck her disgusting face up ahead of time about how Trump won't…win.



And the "B team" didn't even have a plan to exit after the shooter missed:




She used to be quite attractive. The last 20 years have none been good to her.
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No sniper is 100% perfect…it's not like the movies…

Even Chris Kyle missed…
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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4775120-trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracy-theories/amp/

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Understanding the "proportionality bias" - the inclination to believe that big events must stem from big causes - can prove helpful in understanding our susceptibility to conspiracy theories.
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techno-ag said:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4775120-trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracy-theories/amp/

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Understanding the "proportionality bias" - the inclination to believe that big events must stem from big causes - can prove helpful in understanding our susceptibility to conspiracy theories.


I don't know about susceptibility to conspiracy theories.

However, history teaches me that when it comes to power and perversity people do wicked things in darkness.

Conspiracy theories may sound absurd, but the term is also used to discredit, very real, corrupt and nefarious actions.

And there is no shortage of evil in this world especially when we have observed an abandonment of God, morality, and ethics (e.g., with regard to ethics, consider Governor Newsom passing a law that school staff don't have to notify parents about anything related to their child's gender identity).

I don't necessarily believe in conspiracy theories, but I do believe in the propensity for the above.

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AGinHI said:

techno-ag said:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4775120-trump-assassination-attempt-conspiracy-theories/amp/

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Understanding the "proportionality bias" - the inclination to believe that big events must stem from big causes - can prove helpful in understanding our susceptibility to conspiracy theories.


I don't know about susceptibility to conspiracy theories.

However, history teaches me that when it comes to power and perversity people do wicked things in darkness.

Conspiracy theories may sound absurd, but the term is also used to discredit, very real, corrupt and nefarious actions.

And there is no shortage of evil in this world especially when we have observed an abandonment of God, morality, and ethics (e.g., with regard to ethics, consider Governor Newsom passing a law that school staff don't have to notify parents about anything related to their child's gender identity).

I don't necessarily believe in conspiracy theories, but I do believe in the propensity for the above.



The popularity of the term comes from the CIA giving at as a phrase to use in talking points when discussing the JFK assassination to its friendly media assets. You can read about their capture of the US Media in the operation Mocking Bird documents or in the 1977 rolling stone pc by Bernstein of Watergate fame.
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I just pulled up the 25,000 word CIA and the Media.

Thanks for the info.
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AGinHI said:

I just pulled up the 25,000 word CIA and the Media.

Thanks for the info.

I have been trying to tell as many listening people as possible the next thing.


About 20 years ago the CIA identified the documentary as a powerful tool for shaping opinion. That really informative documentary that you just loved watching and recommended to friends was probably funded and scripted by the CIA.

Please keep that in mind moving forward.
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And as bad as anyone thinks CIA control of the media was in decades past it is on a whole new in your face level now.

No outlet of note is exempt. Mainstream to fringe.

For example I really like listening to this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shellenberger

But damn he just comes out of nowhere, with a huge following from word 1, and his parents have intelligence ties.

As much as I hate to admit it he is probably controlled opposition or similar.
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And the recent revelations of how Vice got funding and took off are eye opening. Plucked some idiots out of obscurity and gave them a goal and some funding and they got a hit. Which means they were a CIA asset from day one.

Which probably also means for every homerun like VICE they have lots of failures. But so what, each failure is cheap and doesn't cost anyone of note reputation points.
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I don't follow Shellenberger, but I have read his San Fransicko.

In fact, and in response to your earlier post, I don't watch much lately and have not seen any documentaries about the CIA.

I do a lot of reading however.

So, again thank you for the informative posts.
 
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